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Question AMD Ryzen 5000 - AVAILABILITY

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JM Aggie08

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Had a coworker ~2 weeks ago suggest a discord stocker tracker bot that he had been using for GPUs and CPUs. Got stupid lucky with timing -- not even 24 hours after having the app installed, I was able to grab a 3080 at BB and 5800x from Amazon. Haven't seen nearly as much stock activity since then.
 
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Shmee

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I am still looking to consider a 5900X, if I can find one at MSRP. I wanted that orginally, but settled for the 5800X as it was actually available. I can always sell the 5800X to a good home.
 

undertaker101

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I am still looking to consider a 5900X, if I can find one at MSRP. I wanted that orginally, but settled for the 5800X as it was actually available. I can always sell the 5800X to a good home.
Same here, missed the Walmart drop this morning by a few seconds, OOS at checkout and of course the bastages canceled my backorder for the 5950x...
 

GUTB

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It's going to be hilarious when the 10nm SuperFin parts come out and beats 5900 series -- before the 5900 hits general availability. TSMC's capacity on the 7nm node must be a disaster.


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undertaker101

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The 5800x isn't a bad chip by any means and I am ok with what I paid for it about 450 with tax after amex offers and BB 5% off but the 5900x is better value. 5900x has been the true Unobtanium part for me this cycle, have successfully ordered all Ampere and Vermeer flavors except this elusive lil b****r . :mad:
 

cellarnoise

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All best tech is not available. prices are going up... Cases, ram, mothers, CPUs, gpus.

Feel for you all. It is just the way it is.
 

amrnuke

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It's going to be hilarious when the 10nm SuperFin parts come out and beats 5900 series -- before the 5900 hits general availability. TSMC's capacity on the 7nm node must be a disaster.
*checks GUTB lore*
Yup, checks out. So this is clearly an alt account, right?

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Anyway, back to availability. You've been banned for like... decades? Let me get you up to date.

According to mindfactory.de, there has been a 33% increase in sales of AMD's N7 chips from April 2020 (previous peak) compared to November 2020 (post-Zen 3 release).

That, combined with the Radeon 6000 series release, PS5 release, XSX release, prepping Cezanne for laptops which have to be shipped to OEMs in advance, and EPYC Milan spin-up, and you can imagine that N7 wafers are in short supply.

Demand has far out-stripped supply for these N7 chips. Yes, supply widened -- but remains constrained by wafer production. And yet they're still selling more N7 chips by a substantial percentage compared to the Zen 2 release and compared to just before Zen 3 release. And Zen 3 chips sold in December 2020 is about the same as number of Zen 2 chips sold in July 2019 or August 2019.

As for the 5900X specifically, it comprises over 10% of sales as of December 2020. Where there were 10,000 Zen 3 chips sold in that month, just over 1,000 of them were 5900X. In fact, in December 2020, more 5900Xs were sold than 10400F, 10700K, or any other Intel chip.
 
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rtwo

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I have no idea how legit this is, but from hardocp I found a reference to shopblt.com that seems to have a 5900x preorder process (best scenario there is end of Jan).. I have not shopped with them, but I figure my credit card co is pretty good as sussing out fraud and handling problems if anything is sketchy.
 

undertaker101

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I have no idea how legit this is, but from hardocp I found a reference to shopblt.com that seems to have a 5900x preorder process (best scenario there is end of Jan).. I have not shopped with them, but I figure my credit card co is pretty good as sussing out fraud and handling problems if anything is sketchy.
Lol thanks, ordered one for 563 all incl which is a great deal for CA folks. Shows 16k ordered and 18k incoming on 1/29, may have a chance lol...
 

Shmee

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Yeah I did the same. They are good for the preorders, though they don't always get shipments on time. I had pre-ordered an Asus 3080 from them. It kept getting delayed, but eventually shipped just as I got my 3090, so I sold it to a friend.
 

Hulk

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AMD could have avoided their supply problems with Zen 3 by releasing 5800X, 5900X, and 5950X at $599, $799, and $999, respectively. Then as supply caught up with demand they could have lowered retail prices accordingly.

I like the fact that they did the honorable thing but from a business point of view I don't know if it was the best move.
 

Kenmitch

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AMD could have avoided their supply problems with Zen 3 by releasing 5800X, 5900X, and 5950X at $599, $799, and $999, respectively. Then as supply caught up with demand they could have lowered retail prices accordingly.


I like the fact that they did the honorable thing but from a business point of view I don't know if it was the best move.
lol

Did you forget about the uproar over the $50 price increase already?
 

lightmanek

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AMD could have avoided their supply problems with Zen 3 by releasing 5800X, 5900X, and 5950X at $599, $799, and $999, respectively. Then as supply caught up with demand they could have lowered retail prices accordingly.

I like the fact that they did the honorable thing but from a business point of view I don't know if it was the best move.
I see your point, but when you make these decisions you also have to consider short and long term brand perception damages. Few months of higher profits might not be worth long term loss due to switch of general perception of your brand as more customer friendly.
Also, purely selfish view, I rather have my launch 5900X for £529 I've paid instead of £629 ;)
Not all people pay inflated prices, as there are still some decent suppliers sticking to MSRP, sadly not all of us can be lucky enough to find one at the right time.
 

Kenmitch

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Not all people pay inflated prices, as there are still some decent suppliers sticking to MSRP, sadly not all of us can be lucky enough to find one at the right time.
At least you can carry on with your normal life, sleep at night, and not have to sit in front of a PC with the hope and a prayer you can find one. Sometimes paying a tolerable (to you) premium is worth it. I guess some end users would rather hunt down, add to cart, watch the website crash, and end up with nothing over and over again.

I'm good to go with a 5600x/6800 and 5900x/6800xt, but still look from time to time.
 

Hulk

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Don't get me wrong I'm glad they are holding prices. I have a feeling people would still be buying them like mad and they could have slowly backed prices down just so that supply remained just a little greater than demand. They would have made a ton of additional money and couldn't be accused of a paper launch.

On the other hand the current price structure is going to put the squeeze on Intel with Rocket Lake. But now that I think about that they could have started at the higher prices I mentioned above and then reduced them to where they are now about 2 weeks before Rocket "launched." That way they could have had their cake and eaten it too. I think that would have been a brilliant move.

Imagine Intel pricing Rocket Lake based on the 5950X, so they price the 11900K at $799 or something like that. And then a week before the launch AMD drops the price to $749, forcing the 11900K to be dropped to like $449!!!

Seriously, that would have been great. And Intel deserves to feel what it's like to be in the passenger seat. A little humility can go a long way.
 

aigomorla

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I think its safe to say for the majority of us seeing how fast AMD is flipping gen's on ryzen, that the 7000 ryzen series will be available when there is sufficient stock on shelves and this thread will be a never ending thread CPU only with different cpu numbers.
 

Hulk

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I think its safe to say for the majority of us seeing how fast AMD is flipping gen's on ryzen, that the 7000 ryzen series will be available when there is sufficient stock on shelves and this thread will be a never ending thread CPU only with different cpu numbers.
I hope so because your prediction implies a very healthy CPU industry for enthusiasts like us;)
 
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Mopetar

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They don't even need to list a particular price. Just set up an auction that let's the price automatically adjust to what the market is willing to pay. If it's really $999 then that's what the CPUs will naturally sell for and there's no need for them to try to guess since they'll gradually sell for less and less as the demand at a particular price becomes satisfied. Once the market price reaches a set level they can start releasing inventory to stores who won't have to worry about the mad rush to get a $750 CPU you can scalp for a tidy $200+ profit.
 

gk1951

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aigomorla: You make a great point about AMD's perceived speed in releasing new ZEN products. Keep in mind that when Intel was rolling a few years ago while AMD seemed to be on life support, AMD was really slow releasing products.

I credit Dr. Su and her team of engineers for slowly but surely turning AMD around. She will keep the pedal to the metal because "power is so fleeting".

Happy to see intel bring back an engineer as CEO.
 

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