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hifihedgehog

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I have committed to the elusive and mysterious 16-core model. It will work in tandem with my ASUS ROG Strix X470-I Gaming and G.SKILL 2X8GB 3600 MHz Cl15 memory. With any luck, I will hopefully see it make an official appearance sometime this year. If not, painful patience will have to prevail until AMD finally gets around to it.
 

Topweasel

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I have committed to the elusive and mysterious 16-core model. It will work in tandem with my ASUS ROG Strix X470-I Gaming and G.SKILL 2X8GB 3600 MHz Cl15 memory. With any luck, I will hopefully see it make an official appearance sometime this year. If not, painful patience will have to prevail until AMD finally gets around to it.
I am hedging towards this myself. I'll get a 3800x to refit my smaller computer and hold up for a board and CPU to get the 16c for my main computer when it comes out. I want the 16c Zen 2 goodness. But I am not going to spend 1k+ in a year just because the 3900x is a good deal for what it is.
 
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What are most of you doing as far as ram? Going for 2 sticks or 4 sticks as far as populating the memory slots? Do you all think 16 gigs is ok or would 32 gigs be better? Only videos i do is once in a blue moon take a movie and use convert dvd x to make a dvd out of it. Or sometimes i use handbrake to reduce a movie size.(not everyday)
I'm starting out with 2x8GB to see how that works. If I find that I need more, hopefully I can get an identical kit before the 10x b-die dries up. Not sure if Matisse will like 4 DIMMs/4 banks though. Pinnacle Ridge and Summit Ridge sure don't.
 

Centauri

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Can't wait to throw a Ryzen 9 into my X370 Taichi. Already picked up another 16GB kit of CL14 3200MHz TridentZ in anticipation.

Gonna keep trucking with my R9 Fury non-X though. This thing continues to age like wine. Love it.
 

B-Riz

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What are most of you doing as far as ram? Going for 2 sticks or 4 sticks as far as populating the memory slots? Do you all think 16 gigs is ok or would 32 gigs be better? Only videos i do is once in a blue moon take a movie and use convert dvd x to make a dvd out of it. Or sometimes i use handbrake to reduce a movie size.(not everyday)
2 x 16gb Crucial Ballistic LT 3200, it is in the 8700K system now, but that is probably getting sold after 7/7, lol.
 
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I'm looking forward to upgrading my 4771 to a 3900x with a NH-D15 on top. Motherboard, I have no idea yet, less RGB and more USB to start. Asus Strix X570-E or MSI MEG X570 ACE for now.
And RAM even less, I want 32GB, my current PC has 16 therefore the next must have more (to do otherwise would just be wrong), but do I get 32GB b die now? Or do i chance better ram support?
 
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I'm looking forward to upgrading my 4771 to a 3900x with a NH-D15 on top. Motherboard, I have no idea yet, less RGB and more USB to start. Asus Strix X570-E or MSI MEG X570 ACE for now.
And RAM even less, I want 32GB, my current PC has 16 therefore the next must have more (to do otherwise would just be wrong), but do I get 32GB b die now? Or do i chance better ram support?
In the same spot very tempted to buy some Samsung b die and roll the dice but I don’t like the $100 Samsung tax applied to the 32GB kits.
Ryzen 3000 should have better memory support and micron appears to have some decent fast ram coming.
Really hard to say what should be done now, especially for all we know it will work fine with four banks of 16GB.
Read something on tons hardware that it appears 128GB of memory could be added to X570 boards with a bios update.
 

fleshconsumed

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Read something on tons hardware that it appears 128GB of memory could be added to X570 boards with a bios update.
Doubtful. Highest consumer DDR4 single module capacity is 16GB. 32GB and up require server chipsets.
 
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I will be upgrading my son's R7 1700 on Asus X370 Prime to most likely R5 3600X or R7 3700 as he primarily game. There is 2x8GB B-Die 3200 CL14 memory there already, so just CPU swap really :)

As for my main rig ... waiting for ThreadRipper 3000!
It will be sad to watch everyone enjoying their new shiny toys, but late launch of TR with Zen 2 gives me time to save for good 24 or 32 core model ;)
 
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In the same spot very tempted to buy some Samsung b die and roll the dice but I don’t like the $100 Samsung tax applied to the 32GB kits.
I for one would like to know what ICs are in kits like this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JB...-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c19d-32gvrb

DDR4-3600 is not your conventional DDR4-3200 CAS/CL16 Hynix. Is this the new Micron stuff people are talking about, or is it b-die? I know it isn't Samsung e-die since it comes in lower densities (usually), and it certainly isn't d-die at that memory clockspeed.

Micron has some consumer grade 32GB sticks coming (I think it said micron)
Curious as to how the new Matisse memory controller will handle such sticks. Is it 2 ranks per DIMM or 4? If you tried something like that on Pinnacle Ridge, you're looking at DDR4-1866 (or maybe 2133) with just two of those sticks, and I can't imagine 4 of them being any better.
 
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I for one would like to know what ICs are in kits like this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JB...-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c19d-32gvrb

DDR4-3600 is not your conventional DDR4-3200 CAS/CL16 Hynix. Is this the new Micron stuff people are talking about, or is it b-die? I know it isn't Samsung e-die since it comes in lower densities (usually), and it certainly isn't d-die at that memory clockspeed.



Curious as to how the new Matisse memory controller will handle such sticks. Is it 2 ranks per DIMM or 4? If you tried something like that on Pinnacle Ridge, you're looking at DDR4-1866 (or maybe 2133) with just two of those sticks, and I can't imagine 4 of them being any better.
Not sure and below is not the same article but it mentions the top board supporting 128 GB

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-aorus-x570-ryzen_3000-motherboards,39504.html
 
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Interesting. Actually some of the lesser boards support 128 GB as well, like the Aorus Elite. So it looks like X570/Matisse will support a full 32GB per DIMM slot. The only Gigabyte X570 board to support less RAM is the one with two DIMM slots.
 

guachi

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300+ is too much..Looks like cheapest will be at 220usd/euro.Anyone who dont need new 12core can buy B450 with good VRM like MSI tomahawk/carbon and they will handle 8cores even with OC.
Yeah, the 65w parts (especially the 3600) are not only cheaper for the chip you can use a cheap B450 mobo. The Wraith Stealth fan the 2600 has (and, I assume, the 3600) is so short it will even fit in very small ITX cases.

If you aren't going to OC the CPU, the 3600 is looking to be a really cheap alternative.
 

B-Riz

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Actually, the 3600 may wind up being a budget OC king!
BUT! Will it be as legendary as the Celeron 300A??? :)

I think it is going to be a bad a$$ value / all around great chip.
 

maddie

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Waiting for the reviews, but as of now, I will be building some 3600 systems for some friends with one for myself.

Anyone else thinking supply might be tight at first? Also, have anyone heard anything about the 550 motherboards?
 

B-Riz

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Waiting for the reviews, but as of now, I will be building some 3600 systems for some friends with one for myself.

Anyone else thinking supply might be tight at first? Also, have anyone heard anything about the 550 motherboards?
According to tape outs, the silicon had it's final revision the beginning of the year. I think there was a reason it took 6 months to actually launch, they wanted to have enough day 1 retail supply.

I am pre-ordering a 3900X and board from Micro Center when it is available.
 

Elfear

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I am pre-ordering a 3900X and board from Micro Center when it is available.
That's my plan too. Only thing that would change my mind would be if the 3700X/3800X overclock better.
 

B-Riz

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That's my plan too. Only thing that would change my mind would be if the 3700X/3800X overclock better.
I'm guessing they are all relative, each one has so much headroom, but, they are going to be tuned up tight with (guessing) XFR3.

I think the 3600 is going to be the one to play with when it hits $50-$75 off after a few months (Black Friday / Holiday time).

Like the R7 1700 ended up.
 

EXCellR8

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I honestly have no idea what to pick now (if anything) so I'm waiting on it; still not sure about my current board supporting more than 8 cores so for me pre-ordering isn't wise this time around.

A new board for me also likely means faster DIMMs which will be more than I want to spend.
 

scannall

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I'm going to wait a couple months after release. Seems like new CPU designs often need a bios update or two. Both Intel and AMD btw. Going to go with a MSI Gaming Pro X570, and a PCIe 4 NVME drive. I am still undecided between the 3800X and the 3900X though.
 

Topweasel

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So current build strategy. Tell me if you see any faults.

Things I already have
H100i
Radeon VII

Things I ordered just because
Fractal Design Nano S (black no window)
SF800LTI (Sold myself on the Nano before I realized how close the GPU would sit next to the PSU. This should create a significant gap.)
2x16 of Samsung B Die 3200 (this is a choice more for my other system, it has 32GB of the exact same memory in it. If I upgrade it to the 16c chip later, Ill move this over and go for a higher clocked memory for this system).

The parts I will get after release.
CPU: 3800x (I will be swaying back and forth till reviews on this and the 3900x,, but I feel the 3800x is where I will land).
HDD: 10TB Hitachi
SSD: 970 Pro 1-2 TB, or PCIe 4.0 NVME drive if one launches and seems really good. Don't know if I can trust all the Phison drives that have been shown.
Mobo: X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX TB3

Setup. This will be a tabletop PC. It will be considerably larger the then M1 based system I am currently using. But for a couple reasons wanted to pull back from going that small again. That's why the case is what it is. Still a tower config. A little bloated. But not Mid or full tower bloated. The plan is to use the H100i as a filtered front intake and a single rear fan as the exhaust (positive pressure build).

One unique question that sticks out is, should I replace the Corsair H100i fans? I am thinking Noctua. If so what fans are a good replacement for this. The idea is this will be a bedroom gaming system. It will generally be off when not in use but there will be times that I am running it while I sleep. This isn't terrible on the M1. But there is a lot of room for improvement.
 

inf64

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So current build strategy. Tell me if you see any faults.

Things I already have
H100i
Radeon VII

Things I ordered just because
Fractal Design Nano S (black no window)
SF800LTI (Sold myself on the Nano before I realized how close the GPU would sit next to the PSU. This should create a significant gap.)
2x16 of Samsung B Die 3200 (this is a choice more for my other system, it has 32GB of the exact same memory in it. If I upgrade it to the 16c chip later, Ill move this over and go for a higher clocked memory for this system).

The parts I will get after release.
CPU: 3800x (I will be swaying back and forth till reviews on this and the 3900x,, but I feel the 3800x is where I will land).
HDD: 10TB Hitachi
SSD: 970 Pro 1-2 TB, or PCIe 4.0 NVME drive if one launches and seems really good. Don't know if I can trust all the Phison drives that have been shown.
Mobo: X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX TB3

Setup. This will be a tabletop PC. It will be considerably larger the then M1 based system I am currently using. But for a couple reasons wanted to pull back from going that small again. That's why the case is what it is. Still a tower config. A little bloated. But not Mid or full tower bloated. The plan is to use the H100i as a filtered front intake and a single rear fan as the exhaust (positive pressure build).

One unique question that sticks out is, should I replace the Corsair H100i fans? I am thinking Noctua. If so what fans are a good replacement for this. The idea is this will be a bedroom gaming system. It will generally be off when not in use but there will be times that I am running it while I sleep. This isn't terrible on the M1. But there is a lot of room for improvement.
There are some rumors about silicon quality wrt Ryzen 3000 series. Long story short 3800Xs will get leaky dice while 3600/3900X will be better quality, hence such a huge difference in TDPs. I believe 3900X will be much better chip because it will clock higher at stock while consuming less power and hence have lower max. CPU temps under similar loads. 16C part (and presumably another 12C model) will get best of the best dice, clocking highest @ stock and likely have best XFR boost clocks on X570. This will cost much more than 3900X so I doubt it will be worth it for "regular" gamer/enthusiast build.
 

Topweasel

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I am not an clock monster. I'll be running XFR and PBO.

I am a core fiend. But I'll be looking to get a 16c chip to replace my 1700. Getting a 3900x right now would for the core satisfaction and the 12c in an itx fun.

I know what will be good for me will be the 3800x I just also know I'll want the 3900x. That's why it's up in the air.
 


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