AMD Richland avaiable at Newegg

[Durvelle27]

AMD A4-4000 Richland 3.2GHz Socket FM2 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor AD4000OKHLBOX avaible at Newegg for $45.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...irtualParent=1




Thought these wouldn't be out until a few more months

 

[ShintaiDK]

Few more months? Its a Q2 release, not Q3

 

[AtenRa]

Desktop Richland(6xxx series) will be launch first week of June.

 

[Durvelle27]

Few more months? Its a Q2 release, not Q3

ahhh yes

 

[Phynaz]

Desktop Richland(6xxx series) will be launch first week of June.

Bad idea, Intel is going to have all the press with the Haswell launch.

AMD always has this mindset that they have to match their competitors announcements, they do the same thing in the graphics department.

 

[SiliconWars]

So AMD should hold back because Intel is getting later and later with releases? What an absurd point of view.

 

[mrmt]

So AMD should hold back because Intel is getting later and later with releases? What an absurd point of view.

Why absurd? You shouldn't release your inferior product in the same week your bigger competitor is releasing his better product. Richland is barely worth any news, and by releasing in the same week as of Haswell, AMD is making sure that nobody will listen or care for their marketing message.

 

[AtenRa]

Richland and Quad Core Desktop Haswell(GT2) are not in the same category, they dont directly compete, different market segments different prices.

But it will be nice to show the world that a $140 APU is faster than a pricier Haswell in graphics

Also, AMD has been releasing new GPUs way ahead of NVIDIA for the last few years.

 

[Phynaz]

So AMD should hold back because Intel is getting later and later with releases? What an absurd point of view.

Yeah, because you want your message to get squashed by all of Intel's coverage. Frankly they should launch it this week.

 

[inf64]

Richland and Quad Core Desktop Haswell(GT2) are not in the same category, they dont directly compete, different market segments different prices.

But it will be nice to show the world that a $140 APU is faster than a pricier Haswell in graphics

Also, AMD has been releasing new GPUs way ahead of NVIDIA for the last few years.

Also no cheapo i3 Haswell in sight for a few months so mainstream desktop iGPU is nicely covered by AMD .

 

[gus6464]

How's this Richland for a machine that will just be going online and watching the random youtube?

 

[Lepton87]

Bad idea, Intel is going to have all the press with the Haswell launch.

AMD always has this mindset that they have to match their competitors announcements, they do the same thing in the graphics department.

I never saw that in the graphics department, the only time that happened was when it was still ATI and they released a faster product 6800U vs X800XT PE

 

[frozentundra123456]

Wonder why the availability first of such a low end chip?

Seems like you would want the flagship chips released first.

 

[inf64]

It's still not June the 4th .

 

[Centauri]

How's this Richland for a machine that will just be going online and watching the random youtube?

Uhm, overkill. Every desktop CPU is.

 

[Remobz]

How's this Richland for a machine that will just be going online and watching the random youtube?

I have an AMD A6 processor with a radeon 7520 mobile in a laptop. Works like a charm for internet surfing and watching videos.

 

[Jimzz]

How's this Richland for a machine that will just be going online and watching the random youtube?

Perfect.

I would say unless you are gaming or running applications that need a lot of CPU power you're better off with a CPU like this and a SSD over a faster CPU with a platter hard drive.

 

[Enigmoid]

That cpu is actually weaker than the lowest level trinity chip. GPU clocks are virtually the same but the A4-4000 is actually a couple hundred mhz slower than the a4-5300 (weakest trinity chip).

 

[sequoia464]

That cpu is actually weaker than the lowest level trinity chip. GPU clocks are virtually the same but the A4-4000 is actually a couple hundred mhz slower than the a4-5300 (weakest trinity chip).

Just asking a question here, almost bought one of these over the weekend but decided to recycle an old X6 for my wife. When I in inquired about Richland on the forums I was told that Richland would be - maybe - 10% faster than a similarly clocked Trinity - is that accurate?

 

[Enigmoid]

Just asking a question here, almost bought one of these over the weekend but decided to recycle an old X6 for my wife. When I in inquired about Richland on the forums I was told that Richland would be - maybe - 10% faster than a similarly clocked Trinity - is that accurate?

Absolutely not. There is 0 IPC gain for trinity (its the exact same physical chip except with power/bios/turbo tweaks). Richland performance gains come 100% from increase speed and for mobile increased speed and better thermals allowing higher clocks and turbo (mobile richland, especially ULV is expected to see much better gains than desktop high level richland).

For the 10-5800k vs a10-6800k we are looking at a ~10% increase in cpu power (4.4 ghz for richland vs 4.0 ghz for trinity) and a ~5% gain in gpu performance (844 mhz for richland vs 800 mhz for trinity). Its really nothing special considering you can easily overclock any a10-5800k to those levels. However, richland may bring about some power savings (doubtful on the desktop as 4.4 ghz is quite far along the non-linear power/clockspeed curve)

Richland is literally part of AMD's marketing genius. Take your old chip, tweak it a little for higher clocks and market it as something else entirely and everyone thinks you get huge performance gains when you won't.
(The same thing for intel would be to release an i5 chip say the i5-3590k with a base clock of 3.6 ghz turbo 4.0 ghz and igp at 1300 mhz and market it as a major step forward [which it isn't]. Kinda pointless considering any i5 k version overclocks to these levels easily.)

 

[AtenRa]

Absolutely not. There is 0 IPC gain for trinity (its the exact same physical chip except with power/bios/turbo tweaks). Richland performance gains come 100% from increase speed and for mobile increased speed and better thermals allowing higher clocks and turbo (mobile richland, especially ULV is expected to see much better gains than desktop high level richland).

For the 10-5800k vs a10-6800k we are looking at a ~10% increase in cpu power (4.4 ghz for richland vs 4.0 ghz for trinity) and a ~5% gain in gpu performance (844 mhz for richland vs 800 mhz for trinity). Its really nothing special considering you can easily overclock any a10-5800k to those levels. However, richland may bring about some power savings (doubtful on the desktop as 4.4 ghz is quite far along the non-linear power/clockspeed curve)

Richland is literally part of AMD's marketing genius. Take your old chip, tweak it a little for higher clocks and market it as something else entirely and everyone thinks you get huge performance gains when you won't.
(The same thing for intel would be to release an i5 chip say the i5-3590k with a base clock of 3.6 ghz turbo 4.0 ghz and igp at 1300 mhz and market it as a major step forward [which it isn't]. Kinda pointless considering any i5 k version overclocks to these levels easily.)

A10-6700 at 65W TDP will have almost the same performance as A10-5800K at 100W TDP. If you look at all the 65W Richland Products, they will have almost the same performance the 100W Trinity products have today, at the same 32nm process. This is a huge gain especially for Laptops.

So, the highest model(6800K) may not be all that impresive but the 65W models are the ones to look about.

 

[R0H1T]

A10-6700K at 65W TDP will have almost the same performance as A10-5800K at 100W TDP. If you look at all the 65W Richland Products, they will have almost the same performance the 100W Trinity products have today, at the same 32nm process. This is a huge gain especially for Laptops.

So, the highest model(6800K) may not be all that impresive but the 65W models are the ones to look about.

That should be A10-6700, non K version, but regardless it will give you just about 10% bump in CPU clock speed & around 20% for IGP at the same TDP, the same goes for AMD A10-6800K ~
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/320/AMD_A10-Series_A10-5700_vs_AMD_A10-Series_A10-6700.html
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/472/AMD_A10-Series_A10-5800K_vs_AMD_A10-Series_A10-6800K.html

 

[SPBHM]

A4-4000 seems to have no Turbo,
but the base clock is only 200MHz lower than the A4 5300 (Trinity)...

also, A4 5000 is kabini...
a lit bit confusing...

still, $45 is not to bad, but the g1610 costs only $50 and it's probably a lot faster when it comes to CPU, and not far worse when it comes to IGP I would think ("HD2500" vs 1/3 of the full trinity GPU)

 

[Vesku]

I think your mistaken on the graphics front:

http://lensfire.in/37207/news/benchmark-results-of-amd-a4-4000-apu-revealed/

For HTPC it's solid value. Best value for CPU power definitely the g1610.

 

[AtenRa]

Wonder why the availability first of such a low end chip?

Seems like you would want the flagship chips released first.

There was no sub $50 APU desktop product to compete against Celeron G1610.