AMD Revision E CPUs: Venice Core

[imverygifted]

OEM AMD Athlon 3000+ 90nm Rev. E 939
OEM AMD Athlon 3500+ 90nm Rev. E 939
OEM AMD Athlon 3700+ 90nm Rev. E 939
OEM AMD Athlon 3800+ 90nm Rev. E 939
OEM AMD Athlon 4000+ 90nm Rev. E 939
OEM AMD Athlon 3200+ 90nm Rev. E 939
Retail AMD Athlon 3000+ 90nm Rev. E 939
Retail AMD Athlon 3200+ 90nm Rev. E 939
Retail AMD Athlon 3500+ 90nm Rev. E 939
Retail AMD Athlon 3700+ 90nm Rev. E 939
Retail AMD Athlon 3800+ 90nm Rev. E 939

sorry if this is a repost

 

[MrCodeDude]

Bah, they aren't shipped out until May 6th

 

[Tyson95]

Thanks

 

[toant103]

i would get the 3000+ and overclock that biaaaatch

 

[imverygifted]

the 3700+ have a 1 meg cache, thats what i'd go for personally

 

[chinkgai]

may - intel desktop dual core cpu

june - amd server dual core cpu and maybe desktop cpu as well

i read this in the local newspaper

 

[neonerd]

Originally posted by: chinkgai
may - intel desktop dual core cpu

june - amd server dual core cpu and maybe desktop cpu as well

i read this in the local newspaper

Intel is doing it as a counter-attack, and it clearly lacks performance

 

[chinkgai]

Originally posted by: neonerd

Intel is doing it as a counter-attack, and it clearly lacks performance

agreed, but intel is gona take the shaft when it comes to release date of server cpus vs amd's june announced date

a month or so earlier in the release of their (intel's) desktop vs amd's isnt gona hurt (amd) much if anything if u ask me

edit: or maybe i read incorrectly or the newspaper is mistaken, cuz after i jes read anand's dual core intel article...i think it said amd dual cores for desktops wont be out till 2006???

It's looking like, at least on the desktop, if you want dual core at a reasonable price point, your only option will be Intel. But the prospect of more affordable dual core chips out of AMD in 2006 is quite exciting as well.

 

[NightCrawler]

Now Taking Preorders on a First-Come, First-Serve Basis
Shipping Starts May 20th

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: imverygifted
the 3700+ have a 1 meg cache, thats what i'd go for personally

Is an extra 512KB of cache worth ~$200 to you?
It certainly won't boost performance 100% in anything, but costs over 100% more than the 3000+.

 

[MrC4]

AMD Athlon 64 3800+ 512K 90nm Rev. E (939) Shipping Starts (April 22th)

Heres one that ships next Friday if you just must have one ASAP! Pretty pricey at $379 though.

 

[imverygifted]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: imverygifted
the 3700+ have a 1 meg cache, thats what i'd go for personally

Is an extra 512KB of cache worth ~$200 to you?
It certainly won't boost performance 100% in anything, but costs over 100% more than the 3000+.

well to be completely honest no, i already have an fx-55 and winchester 3200+ i think im gonna skip this core series but i probably would just because i use watercooling and if i could get that core the same overclock as some of the other cores with 512 cache id probably have a slight edge in overall fps gaming

 

[jdogg707]

Am I missing something or is there a reason the 3700+ has a lower PR, but has the same listed clock speed and a larger L2 Cache than the 3800+? Plus it is cheaper! What is the story behind this chip?

 

[xylem]

the 3700+ with 1MB cache says it has a system bus if 1600, in contrast to the typical 2000 of socket 939 chips. Maybe that's a socket 754 chip? That would explain the lower PR rating.

 

[jdogg707]

Originally posted by: xylem
the 3700+ with 1MB cache says it has a system bus if 1600, in contrast to the typical 2000 of socket 939 chips. Maybe that's a socket 754 chip? That would explain the lower PR rating.

Gotcha, must be like the 939 3400+

 

[imverygifted]

weird they dont call the 1 meg cache version a different core name like the newcastle and clawhammer

 

[hans007]

wow those prices are pretty steep. i'll have to wait to upgrade my 3000 winchester to a 3000 venice, when its like $120.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: imverygifted

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: imverygifted
the 3700+ have a 1 meg cache, thats what i'd go for personally

Is an extra 512KB of cache worth ~$200 to you?
It certainly won't boost performance 100% in anything, but costs over 100% more than the 3000+.

well to be completely honest no, i already have an fx-55 and winchester 3200+ i think im gonna skip this core series but i probably would just because i use watercooling and if i could get that core the same overclock as some of the other cores with 512 cache id probably have a slight edge in overall fps gaming

Ahh. I wish I could do that. Unfortunately, a 3000+ is about all I can afford, but I'm sure I can make due with one very well. I can't wait.

 

[crapito]

so why would i want to wait for a Revision E CPU when i could pay ~$20 less and get a Winchester now?

 

[MrC4]

so why would i want to wait for a Revision E CPU when i could pay ~$20 less and get a Winchester now?

Only wait if you are big on overclocking, otherwise grab a Winchester now!

 

[crapito]

i just read a little (p)review on these new cores over at PC Perspective. seems like the lower voltage implying higher overclocks is the biggest reason to get a Venice core over a Winchester. well... i can wait another week or so to get a better setup... thanks, peeps for this thread.

 

[PClark99]

I don't know if its a typo or what but the retail 3700 is listed with a system bus of 2000 and a clock speed of 2200.

The oem 3700 has a system bus of 1600 and a clock speed of 2400.

I am confused, I assume one is Venice and the other is San Diego? Someone care to tell me the dealio.

 

[armax1980]

Originally posted by: crapito
so why would i want to wait for a Revision E CPU when i could pay ~$20 less and get a Winchester now?

From what I've read the venice has a updated memory controller that should fix some of the problems of using 4 sticks of ram.

 

[shoRunner]

sse3 support

 

[shoRunner]

Originally posted by: jdogg707

Originally posted by: xylem
the 3700+ with 1MB cache says it has a system bus if 1600, in contrast to the typical 2000 of socket 939 chips. Maybe that's a socket 754 chip? That would explain the lower PR rating.

Gotcha, must be like the 939 3400+

there is a 3700 in 754 but this is the venice core 3700 for 939 and if you look it has the same 2000mhz hypertransport the difference between it and the 3800 is the 3800 is a 2.4ghz and 512k L2 and the 3700 is 2.2 and 1MB L2.