AMD Readies FX-8370, FX-8370E Microprocessors.

[SPBHM]

Not sure that xbitlabs is to be believed but they say that they are also releasing an economical chipset, cost wise, for this plateform it seems.



http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...Readies_FX_8370_FX_8370E_Microprocessors.html

also nice, if the chipset have at least 1/2 sata III ports, they only mentioned USB 3.0 :hmm:
USB 3.0 is easy to solve with pcie x1 stuff, sata III not.

 

[Abwx]

also nice, if the chipset have at least 1/2 sata III ports, they only mentioned USB 3.0 :hmm:
USB 3.0 is easy to solve with pcie x1 stuff, sata III not.

Surely both issue are easy to solve, there s USB3 and Sata III added controlers in the AM1 board i bought recently, isnt the same possible with current AM3+ boards, or is there a limitation to add such sata controler.?..

 

[VirtualLarry]

just overclock your thuban to 4Ghz.

Best I could get it to reliably was 3.5. This was a 1045T, not a 1090T.

 

[SPBHM]

Surely both issue are easy to solve, there s USB3 and Sata III added controlers in the AM1 board i bought recently, isnt the same possible with current AM3+ boards, or is there a limitation to add such sata controler.?..

the limitation is the southbridge they use, most ultra cheap am3+ boards use the Sb710 from 2009, sb850+ would add sata III support, while no am3+ southbridge supports native usb 3.0 and requires external pcie controllers

am1 CPUs have sata III and usb 3.0 integrated,

 

[Abwx]

the limitation is the southbridge they use, most ultra cheap am3+ boards use the Sb710 from 2009, sb850+ would add sata III support, while no am3+ southbridge supports native usb 3.0 and requires external pcie controllers

am1 CPUs have sata III and usb 3.0 integrated,

AM1 of course have thoses features integrated on the SoC but can also support two external added chips, an USB3 and a SATA3 controlers on the MB for exemple, check the Asrock AM1H ITX :
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AM1H-ITX/

Indeed i dont see how the 6gbit/s of a sata controler are that much for the SB, even one from 2009, i ll had to read some infos about it, though.

 

[SPBHM]

AM1 of course have thoses features integrated on the SoC but can also support two external added chips, an USB3 and a SATA3 controlers on the MB for exemple, check the Asrock AM1H ITX :
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AM1H-ITX/

Indeed i dont see how the 6gbit/s of a sata controler are that much for the SB, even one from 2009, i ll had to read some infos about it, though.

what I was trying to say with the other post is that external usb 3.0 controllers are OK, while for sata III it's not the case... you start hitting troubles with the x1 link speed and most of the cheap sata III controllers are not as nice as the native AMD/Intel solutions, for this reason AMD should be using sata III on their cheap new chipset, and not relying on MB manufacturers to add if they want to

 

[Abwx]

Agree on the necessity, if it should be economical all the way perhaps that they ll adapt a FM2+ chipset for the purpose.

 

[daveybrat]

For anyone interested in going with one of the new AMD sku's, here's a brand new motherboard with some nice features:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-790-_-Product

MSI 970 Gaming AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN controller

Realtek ALC1150 Codec w/Audio Boost 2: Reward Your Ears with True Quality

 

[SlowSpyder]

For anyone interested in going with one of the new AMD sku's, here's a brand new motherboard with some nice features:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-790-_-Product

MSI 970 Gaming AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN controller

Realtek ALC1150 Codec w/Audio Boost 2: Reward Your Ears with True Quality

I got an ASRock board not long ago that was a new-ish AM3+ board. I assume there must still be some demand? That board above has some decent features for $100.

 

[Lyfer]

Will this be faster than a 4 year old i5 2500? If not it better be priced below $100.

 

[jhu]

Will this be faster than a 4 year old i5 2500? If not it better be priced below $100.

Wow, I'd love to get one of those < $100 Core i3s.

 

[DrMrLordX]

For anyone interested in going with one of the new AMD sku's, here's a brand new motherboard with some nice features:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-790-_-Product

MSI 970 Gaming AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN controller

Realtek ALC1150 Codec w/Audio Boost 2: Reward Your Ears with True Quality

Pro: 6 + 2 power phase design for ~$100. Are the VRMs strong enough for overclocking? I guess the guinea pig early adopters will find out.

Con: Gigabyte UD3 can be had for around $110 with slightly beefier VRMs. And some folks don't like the E2205. Supposedly there is a Linux driver for it now.

 

[USER8000]

Pro: 6 + 2 power phase design for ~$100. Are the VRMs strong enough for overclocking? I guess the guinea pig early adopters will find out.

Con: Gigabyte UD3 can be had for around $110 with slightly beefier VRMs. And some folks don't like the E2205. Supposedly there is a Linux driver for it now.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/08/21/msi-970-gaming-review/1

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Agree on the necessity, if it should be economical all the way perhaps that they ll adapt a FM2+ chipset for the purpose.

Sounds reasonable. Isn't the A-Link Express AMD uses for their older southbridges pretty much PCIe with a different name? If so it should be easy'ish to connect it to an AM3+ northbridge interface.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Sounds reasonable. Isn't the A-Link Express AMD uses for their older southbridges pretty much PCIe with a different name? If so it should be easy'ish to connect it to an AM3+ northbridge interface.

A-Link Express is also used on the FMx socket. And its as such completely identical to DMI and PCIe. X4 link.

 

[nenforcer]

AMD FX8370 125W TDP = $189
AMD FX8370E 95W TDP = $189

I'm not sure I believe this. Why would anyone ever purchase the higher TDP FX8370 at the same price?

Normally the "E" versions carry a slightly higher price premium. People with lower PCB layer motherboard would be forced to get the "E" version but there is still absolutely no reason why anyone would purchase the higher TDP version. I guess we'll find out on September 1st.

 

[ShintaiDK]

AMD FX8370 125W TDP = $189
AMD FX8370E 95W TDP = $189

I'm not sure I believe this. Why would anyone ever purchase the higher TDP FX8370 at the same price?

Normally the "E" versions carry a slightly higher price premium. People with lower PCB layer motherboard would be forced to get the "E" version but there is still absolutely no reason why anyone would purchase the higher TDP version. I guess we'll find out on September 1st.

Reviews should show us what the difference is, if any.

 

[DrMrLordX]

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/08/21/msi-970-gaming-review/1

It's a pity they tested with an older 8150. 4.6 isn't too bad though.

If there is any one thing that would irk me about using that board, it would be the vcore settings being by offset only.

 

[jpiniero]

AMD FX8370 125W TDP = $189
AMD FX8370E 95W TDP = $189

I'm not sure I believe this. Why would anyone ever purchase the higher TDP FX8370 at the same price?

Normally the "E" versions carry a slightly higher price premium. People with lower PCB layer motherboard would be forced to get the "E" version but there is still absolutely no reason why anyone would purchase the higher TDP version. I guess we'll find out on September 1st.

It's probably the same chip, but at stock the 125W can turbo more/longer.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Will this be faster than a 4 year old i5 2500? If not it better be priced below $100.

Even the FX8320 is slightly faster in threaded workloads, let alone the FX8350/70.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

Reviews should show us what the difference is, if any.

If my source is right (see below), then the difference is that the 125 watt FX-8370 is 4.1GHz/4.3 GHz (Turbo), but the 95 w TDP FX-8370E is a 3.3GHz/4.3 GHz (Turbo) part.

Because they are apparently going to be the same price (which tends to rule out binning, being the reason for the differing TDP's), the reduced clock frequency makes much more sense.

N.B. Source is in German (I used google translate).

German language source

 

[positivedoppler]

AMD just explained the difference. The 8370 can stay on the Turbo frequency longer, that is all.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

AMD just explained the difference. The 8370 can stay on the Turbo frequency longer, that is all.

Where (do you have a source/link) ?

Length of turbo does not sound right to me. But it could be true.

 

[positivedoppler]

http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/corporate-information/events/amd-30-live
Live stream so you'll have to watch a replay if available
It was during one of the interviews.

 

[Enigmoid]

Makes sense. The rebadges won't affect the amount of power used by the chips at a given frequency (no significant increase in efficiency) but will cause the chip to throttle down. Good for OEM's and people who want a lower power system.