AMD Radeons no.1 at crypto GPGPU throughput, new data for Dec 2010.

DaveSimmons

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I'd shout "yay!" except I use my 6850 to play games, not run benchmarks or encrypt stuff.

Oh well, it's a win for team red I guess.
 

faxon

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hardly new, not surprised though that they did so well. they've been building radeon machines for these purposes for a couple years now already at least.
 

Arkadrel

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Im kinda surprised that the 6970 is doing GPGPU performance in those tests thats kicking the 580 in the nuts, its 2x-4x times as fast in some of those things.

I guess thats why the 6970 isnt a better gameing card... amd probably made it for GPGPU.
 

Lonyo

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Im kinda surprised that the 6970 is doing GPGPU performance in those tests thats kicking the 580 in the nuts, its 2x-4x times as fast in some of those things.

I guess thats why the 6970 isnt a better gameing card... amd probably made it for GPGPU.

These tests use specific type of instruction/calculations that works very well on AMDs architecture.

When you see the GTX580 having 512 shaders and the HD6970/HD5870 having ~3x as many, if something can utilise every shader, the AMD card will be faster, and some things do work like that, those things are these.
The GTX580 is better at general purpose workloads, but AMD has a GPU which is very much faster in some areas.
 

n0x1ous

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These tests use specific type of instruction/calculations that works very well on AMDs architecture.

When you see the GTX580 having 512 shaders and the HD6970/HD5870 having ~3x as many, if something can utilise every shader, the AMD card will be faster, and some things do work like that, those things are these.
The GTX580 is better at general purpose workloads, but AMD has a GPU which is very much faster in some areas.

Correct....it seems that in the GPGPU tests there are few benchmarks where the two sides are close. Its either AMD wins huge or Nvidia wins huge. The GPGPU stuff seems to be really sensitive to architecture.

Granted there are more overall areas where Nvidia has the huge edge here, but there are certain areas like the one the OP mentioned where the Radeon's have a huge edge.

This will continue to be an interesting area in the GPU landscape. I wonder if they will continue to diverge and excel in different areas or if they will come together more....?
 

Will Robinson

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Radeon 5 & 6's are the GPUs of choice for password cracking and brute force dictionary attacks amongst the worldwide h4x0r community.
That's quite an honor in a kinda unsettling sort of way.o_O:ninja:



And...no...despite what you were expecting to read by now...a GTX460 won't beat one.:p
 
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SlowSpyder

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I think the Radeons have shown they have a ton of potential for GPGPU, but AMD just hasn't really pushed them in that direction like Nvidia has with their GPU's. I think with the older Radeons it was difficult to ever come close to their theoretical horsepower, the new VLIW4 shaders might be a bit easier to make perform.
 

Lonyo

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Radeon 5 & 6's are the GPUs of choice for password cracking and brute force dictionary attacks amongst the worldwide h4x0r community.
That's quite an honor in a kinda unsettling sort of way.o_O:ninja:



And...no...despite what you were expecting to read by now...a GTX460 won't beat one.:p

What about the GTX560? That's coming soon so if you want to crack passwords you should wait until it comes out because it will be awesome.
 

Kuzi

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AMD needs to pour more money on the software side and push the GPGPU capability of their hardware, especially now that Cayman has improved GPGPU performance compared the older Radeons.
 

sandorski

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For Milkyway my 4850 is much better than any Fermi based card, although I haven't seen any 580 times. Approx 2x faster than a 480(IIRC).
 

Will Robinson

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What about the GTX560? That's coming soon so if you want to crack passwords you should wait until it comes out because it will be awesome.

OMG that's so right...you are Nostradamus...no ATM will stand a chance against it:p:sneaky:,let alone a 3D game...
 

RavenSEAL

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Everyone knows AMD hardware is superior...but the drivers just flat out suck.

Only if we could steal one of em fancy nVidia programmers...:hmm:
 

ZipSpeed

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I'd love to see some AMD improvements in Folding@home. It's sad when my old 8800 GTS 640 MB produces slightly less PPD than my 5850.
 

SolMiester

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Guess nobody saw the disclaimer

These are only estimations, depending on GPU architecture results may be very different in reality. But ratios should be OK within same family.

certainly wouldnt put my mortgage on it!
 

SolMiester

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Everyone knows AMD hardware is superior...but the drivers just flat out suck.

Only if we could steal one of em fancy nVidia programmers...:hmm:
Not sure about superior hardware, but certainly equal.....its their flakey software that prevents a No1 tag IMO...
 

Lonyo

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Guess nobody saw the disclaimer

These are only estimations, depending on GPU architecture results may be very different in reality. But ratios should be OK within same family.

certainly wouldnt put my mortgage on it!

One is estimates, one seems to be benchmarks for a specific app.
 

Wreckage

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Guess nobody saw the disclaimer

These are only estimations, depending on GPU architecture results may be very different in reality. But ratios should be OK within same family.

certainly wouldnt put my mortgage on it!

I think the title should be changed to "estimated, non-reality"
 

0roo0roo

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eh, what is its h264 encode performance like...high profile and all that goodness
 

Rifter

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I think the title should be changed to "estimated, non-reality"

I agree, i can estimate a TNT 16MB is faster than a 6970 if i screw the math up enough in the calculations. REAL benchmarks would actually show REAL performance. estimates are useless.