AMD Q2 Results

veri745

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• AMD revenue $1.57 billion, 2 percent sequential decrease and 5 percent decrease year-over-year
• Net income $61 million, earnings per share $0.08, operating income $105 million
• Non-GAAP1 net income $70 million, earnings per share $0.09, operating income $114 million
• Gross margin 46 percent


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...that-tops-analyst-estimates-on-new-chips.html

*edit* evidently AMD stock has jumped almost 3% after hours after the press release was released.
 

sm625

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I guess now we know why AMD's stock has been falling pretty steadily over the past 8 weeks.
 

Meghan54

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I guess now we know why AMD's stock has been falling pretty steadily over the past 8 weeks.



Right, because of this, the first sentence in the article:

Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD), the second-largest maker of processors for personal computers, reported quarterly profit that beat analysts’ estimates, citing orders for a new range of chips.
So the stock's been dropping because the street anticipated the news of AMD's profits being higher than expected?
 

busydude

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Well, AMD says initial production and product shipping next month for both servers and desktops. Not sure about the actual launch though.
 

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Well, AMD says initial production and product shipping next month for both servers and desktops. Not sure about the actual launch though.

Look at the time lag from when AMD said Llano was "shipping" versus when it was launched. If product isn't shipping until August then we are definitely looking at a launch no earlier than Sept.

edit: “Llano” APU is Shipping (April 4, 2011)

Llano launched June 14, 2011.

So that's a 2 month gap. Hmmm...Zambezi could possibly be an Oct launch then.
 
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Ghiedo27

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So the stock's been dropping because the street anticipated the news of AMD's profits being higher than expected?
No, the stock has presumably been dropping because the analysts predicted a low figure weeks ago. Once the real figures were released the stock price went through a positive correction.
 

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Look at the time lag from when AMD said Llano was "shipping" versus when it was launched. If product isn't shipping until August then we are definitely looking at a launch no earlier than Sept.

edit: “Llano” APU is Shipping (April 4, 2011)

Llano launched June 14, 2011.

So that's a 2 month gap. Hmmm...Zambezi could possibly be an Oct launch then.

Quite right - I don't think AMD specified to WHOM they were shipping to with original announcement. Likely they shipped to OEMs first (April) and launched for US distribution channels in June (probably due to under-forecasting demand from OEM side and/or allocated production level was less than actual OEM demand).

AMD has had history of launch/shipping to both channel and OEMs at same time when they get the allocated production capacity and forecasted demand formula within manageable parameters so I wouldn't say "launch on time" is out of the question...
 

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Too lazy to read the MD&A or listen to the earnings call, no specifics about Bulldozer in Q2 vs. Q3 then I take it?

Edit: took a quick spin through things on EDGAR, at least they were profitable AND cash flow positive this quarter.
 
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This is only going to get better for AMD. Even if they do not match Intel at the top the other things they are doing will make them profitable. It's not a big jump to say that AMD will own the middle to the bottom with APU's and cheaper priced BD CPU's. Heck, they can take the lower end of the high performance section with good pricing. In GPU's they will keep going toe to toe with NV.
 

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Here is information from the graphics division :
http://seekingalpha.com/news-article/1482091-amd-reports-second-quarter-results
Graphics segment revenue decreased 11 percent sequentially and 17 percent year-over-year. The sequential decrease was driven primarily by lower discrete mobile unit shipments and seasonality in the desktop discrete graphics add-in board market. The annual decrease was primarily driven by lower unit shipments.
  • Operating loss was $7 million, compared with operating income of $19 million in Q1 11 and $33 million in Q2 10.
  • GPU ASP was flat sequentially and year-over-year.
  • AMD expanded its offerings for the professional graphics market with the introduction of the AMD FirePro" V5900 and FirePro" V7900 graphics cards which provide enhanced visual capabilities designed to improve workflow and increase productivity for engineers and designers.
  • Dell announced a new, ultra-high performance blade server powered by the AMD FirePro" V7800P professional graphics.
  • The award-winning AMD Radeon" HD 6000 family of graphics expanded with the introduction of two sub-$100 cards offering support for DirectX 11, AMD App acceleration and AMD Eyefinity multi-display technologies.
  • AMD extended its position as the graphics provider of choice for the game console market, where more than 140 million current-generation games consoles are powered by AMD graphics technology. Nintendo announced it selected AMD to provide the graphics technology for its next-generation Wii U" System that will be available next year.
 

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Why did their bottom line go down almost ten times compared to last quarter? (the 500 million vs 60 million thing).
 

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I hope the reports of the Xbox 720 using AMD CPU and GPU are true, good news for the industry and PC gamers :)
 

piesquared

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AMD stock up 15% this morning, woo hoo!

That oughta kill the thread lol.

The rebound is likely due in most part to the strong Q3 forecast. That, and there was no justification in the 3 month, 25% drop. Seifert is doing a really good job as CEO, and he has all the technical executives and personal around him that he needs. The roadmap is already in place and looks very good, they aren't going to change it now that products are in the market and in the pipe. They've made it abundantly clear that the future is fusion, and are executing very well.

Also, + %16. Be nice to kill off all those shorts.
 

notty22

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Another writers take on the report : http://wap.dailytech.com/mobile/Article.aspx?newsid=22231
The earnings report released by Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) yesterday was unpinned by one cheery figure -- a net profit of $61M USD, or 9 cents per share. That's 12.5 percent higher than the average analyst prediction. And it's a major departure from net loss of $43M USD a year before (calendar Q2 2010).

Counterintuitively, revenue was the complete opposite story. AMD's revenue of $1.57B USD was short of the analyst prediction of $1.58B USD. And it represents a 2 percent drop from calendar Q1 2011 and a 5 percent drop from a year ago.

In a way, this is good news as it shows strong evidence that AMD's cost cutting is working better than expected. And there's more interesting news to be gleaned from the report as well.

II. Desktop, Server Revenue Falls, Fusion Saves

CPU revenue held largely flat at $1.21B USD (it actually fell just a few million, year to year), but that was only thanks to the best-selling "Fusion" advanced processing units, the Llano and Brazos series. While AMD did not reveal an exact breakdown of sales of Fusion mobile chips, other mobile CPUs, desktop CPUs, and server CPUs it did comment that desktop and server sales were down. While it would not say how much, it did say that the Fusion now accounted for 50 percent of its sales revenue on the mobile side.

The Fusion APUs [1][2][3] combine AMD's core designs with a low-end discrete GPU to produce a chip with decent x86 CPU performance and much better than usual "integrated" graphics performance. Given the competitive price, customers have been embracing the product, which is perfect for budget laptops.

It's no big secret why AMD's desktop and server revenue took a hit. AMD hasn't released a new core design since Phenom II, which first hit the market in December 2008. And the last major architecture redesign was in 2003 with the release of the Athlon 64/Opteron (K8) processors. That's set to change when AMD's Bulldozer core plows into town later this year.

Bulldozer is built on a 32 nm process. Bulldozer's answer to rival Intel Corp.'s (INTC) single core + hyperthreading is a "module", which actually has two cores. The result is more discrete resources, but not significantly more space on die, according to AMD. Of course AMD has trailed Intel in CPU design and manufacturing processes over the past several years, so it remains to be seen in AMD can live up to its hype. It should be noted that Bulldozer was expected for Q2 2011 and is behind schedule.

AMD's desktop and server revenue were further impacted by reduced chip prices.


III. GPU Sales Post Bigger Drop

More troubling, AMD's GPU revenue fell 17 from Q2 2010 and 11 percent from Q1 2011. It appears rival NVIDIA Corp. (NVDA) is picking up stream with its GeForce 500 series, which aired in November 2010. AMD also suffered from part shortages -- its high end Radeon HD 6990 GPU-- the most powerful single-slot solution on the market today -- has been virtually entirely out of stock since April.

NVIDIA is preparing its Kepler architecture (28 nm) for a Q4 2011 launch. Products with Kepler chips will presumably be branded GeForce 6xx GPUs. AMD has promised to release its own next generation CPUs Southern Islands (28 nm), in H2 2011, so it could presumably get the jump on its competitor. Southern Islands will presumably be branded the Radeon 7xxx series.

Southern Islands, which contains both a die shrink and a new graphics core design, is currently in mass production, so AMD seems to be doing pretty good currently.

No one knows where AMD and NVIDIA currently sit in market share. The best numbers on hand come from back in May, which put AMD at 40.5 percent of discrete GPU sales and NVIDIA at 59.6. This is a reversal from 2010, when AMD briefly took the lead in sales from NVIDIA.

While AMD may now be back to playing catch up, discrete sales are only a part of the value equation of the GPU unit to AMD. The great sales of Fusion are largely only thanks to AMD's GPU expertise, which it acquired when it purchased ATI Technologies.
 

OCGuy

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The GPU side is losing money again ($7 million), Their new desktop lineup is late and from rumours isnt going to "wow" anyone.....I don't know why anyone would invest long-term in AMD.

Hoping the server side finally picks up steam I guess?
 

Topweasel

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Aww how sweet you called Jason Mick a writer. His mom will be so proud.

I am with you. Not only that but I don't think there is a person wired more differently then me in all of the 6+ billion people out there. Seriously, if I met him I would probably punch him just for existing. Every time I see his name on an article I immediately get this feeling I that I know I am not going to like where this goes. Also, he needs to stop using the news section as a blog. I can't understand why people gave Tom Masher so much trouble when at least all of his stuff was news, he just only paid attention to news on one side on most public debates.