AMD prepares dualcore 45nm surprise - Callisto

[aigomorla]

why are they going after pentium dualcores when they will get phased out during the i5 release?

Where the hell is our 45nm i5's.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: magreen

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
If you look at the ridiculously worded phrases and boasts, it's difficult to believe the OP could be employed as any sort of professional.

It honestly reads to me as if it is simply written by an individual for whom English is not their first language.

The grammar and word selection is reminiscent of dialogue I have had with Austrians and Germans who seemingly understood English rather well but their own limited vocabulary was a disservice to them when they attempted to explain anything in English for which they were excited about.

Or it could truly be viral, our video forum once had an example of how not all marketeers necessarily meet the minimum threshold of human existence for which we might otherwise expect them all to uphold.

I don't think he's ESL. Look at these quotes:

Originally posted by: fusion238

Each time Intel forces their users to use a new socket and CPUs like that used for i7/i5/i3/iX
they frustrate a large number who may decide to "jump ship" or "jump chip" to a competitor.

As for using Deneb core, it would not be surprising to find that users can Paypal $25 or so to AMD and enable another core online! I think Intel and Microsoft do something similar with server chips and software.

If Callisto is derived from the thoroughbred line of the Phenom II CPUs, then AMD may overpower Intel in the range of $75-$300 high performance CPUs that run on either nearly free DDR2 memory or optional DDR3.
* Just an enthusiast (not fanboy) that owns Intel, AMD, ATI, Nvidia systems and parts. Ordering new Phenom X3 720BE with Biostar 790 mb.

No, that sounds to me like logic is his second language. His English is fine.

:laugh:

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
why are they going after pentium dualcores when they will get phased out during the i5 release?

Where the hell is our 45nm i5's.

Because, sadly, that's all they can do.

Remember how AMD was behind Intel, behind Intel, behind Intel, then caught Intel, then passed Intel?

I think that's happening again. AMD's in a similar position. The analogy I'm thinking of is the PhII is like the K6-2, and Core i7 is like Pentium 3. The top K6-2 could just about catch a low-end Pentium 3, but that's all. Probably, the apex chip of this generation's PhII might be able to get close to an i7 920, but that's it. If AMD ever hopes to compete beyond the mid-range, they need a revolution, as they had with Original Athlon. I kinda doubt Intel is going to get as complacent as they were back then.

 

[exar333]

Originally posted by: taltamir
Let me clarify.

its a niche ONLY because intel CHOSE to make it a niche. At any point in time, at intel's discretion, they can lower the price... They have a factory, it can make 45nm chips. and they CHOSE to make a mix of C2Q and i7 (at about the same cost), instead of only making i7. They are, on purpose, making obsolete designs that cost as much to manufacture, only to sell at a higher product.

So the product is artificially niched into the ultra expensive market.

Should AMD ever become a threat they will just replacing the C2Q with nehalem manufacturing and drop the prices.

Have you heard that there are economic issues right now? It's not the best time to switch platforms that require all-new motherboards, RAM and processors. Remember when the first 45nm quad extreme came out? That was niche too...I think they will do fine...

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: aigomorla
why are they going after pentium dualcores when they will get phased out during the i5 release?

Where the hell is our 45nm i5's.

Because, sadly, that's all they can do.

Remember how AMD was behind Intel, behind Intel, behind Intel, then caught Intel, then passed Intel?

I think that's happening again. AMD's in a similar position. The analogy I'm thinking of is the PhII is like the K6-2, and Core i7 is like Pentium 3. The top K6-2 could just about catch a low-end Pentium 3, but that's all. Probably, the apex chip of this generation's PhII might be able to get close to an i7 920, but that's it. If AMD ever hopes to compete beyond the mid-range, they need a revolution, as they had with Original Athlon. I kinda doubt Intel is going to get as complacent as they were back then.

Bulldozer is a ways away though, timeline-wise, isn't it? And could very well be competing with Sandy Bridge, let alone westmere, when it finally debuts.

For AMD to jump from current PhII performance levels to something that will be competitive (if not performance crown capable) against Sandy Bridge, 3 CPU generations ahead the current penryn architecture PhII is competing with, would be simply astounding if accomplished.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I was going to buy an x4 PII. But If AMD isn't disabling the cores. Buy one of these and get a 3 or 4 core CPU for peanuts. At the very least I will buy the X3 and try for 4 cores.

Make a great browser PC.