AMD: Polaris 10 targets mainstream desktop & high-end notebook

[PPB]

In other words, for those who do can not understand words: The hardware that brings us the highest performance with lowest possible power consumption always has to win. Regardless of brand.

For us that have to pay for our own hardware, price is important too. Just a reminder.

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[Glo.]

I recon you speak for yourself and adress yourself in plural for whatever reason.

Seems you missed a couple of last pages and multiple recent treads. AMD that covered with hd5000 and hd6000, and it was only good for up to 50% marketshare. Meanwhile, it takes the other one whatever metric to get 70%+ of consumers.

It may be good for amd if they release new hardware aiming different segments than their competitor.

I am not talking only about AMD. Intel or Nvidia also has to be taken into account. If Intel will one day come with best possible GPUs - thats the way to go. If Nvidia will bring hardware thats better than AMD and Intel WITHOUT proprietary software needed - thats the way to go.

 

[krumme]

Targeting mobile is absolutely right from a business perspective. That way they can also hide under a far stronger brand like eg apple.

Just knowing what they target and the emphasis on efficiency mean it will be a huge success compared to prior gen.

Prior gen was a typical amd product. No focused direction. Textbook stupid as usual.

It looks like for the first time in 30 year the company will start to benefit from focused leadership on the market side. Even with a wsa tied to their neck they might make a solid honest profit during entire 2017 but thats up to mubadala.

 

[USER8000]

Yes, I posted it here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38183411&postcount=29

It's an interesting video from @Adored but unlike him, I see some real easy ways for NVIDIA to negate AMD's console advantage.

But I also see AMD is not just sitting on their backsides to allow Nvidia to do the same too:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38183423&postcount=30

You do realise,ATI SHIPPED more cards per quarter during the X800 days?? That followed ATI winning in high profile games like HL2 and even then Nvidia did more game sponsorhips than ATI.

Targeting mobile is absolutely right from a business perspective. That way they can also hide under a far stronger brand like eg apple.

Just knowing what they target and the emphasis on efficiency mean it will be a huge success compared to prior gen.

Prior gen was a typical amd product. No focused direction. Textbook stupid as usual.

It looks like for the first time in 30 year the company will start to benefit from focused leadership on the market side. Even with a wsa tied to their neck they might make a solid honest profit during entire 2017 but thats up to mubadala.

Agreed,and it was AMD also virtually ignoring mobile which started the rot in their dGPU sales.

 

[Abwx]

Don't get all twisty over the 2.5x because we don't know the comparison.

2.5x vs Hawaii is okay. But 2.5x vs Nano? That would be nuts.

2.5x improvement is for comparable GPUs size wise, and with the 14nm one being clocked 1.4x higher, if frequency was left unchanged then the improvement would had been 3.5x.

 

[Det0x]

http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris-10-desktop-polaris-11-notebook-gpu/

The AMD Polaris 10 GPU has a maximum TDP of 175W but cards will actually consume much less than that. The GPU was initially built to support HBM memory but AMD chose to go the GDDR5/X route since it offers a better value currently. We will get to see HBM on AMD GPUs when Vega launches but until then, only Fury series will have HBM support. The Polaris 10 GPU is said to have 3DMark Firestrike Ultra performance around 4000 points which is about what a Radeon R9 Fury X and GeForce GTX 980 Ti score. By 4000 points, we don’t mean exactly 4000 but it’s actually quite a bit less but that’s the number we were told.

If AMD can manage to launch a card at around $329 US with better efficiency and performance close to 980 Ti with twice the VRAM of Fury X, they can have a great product in their hands which many users will be willing to upgrade to. AMD Polaris looks to be an incremental step for team red in the efficiency game, it will be great to see competitive products from AMD in the coming months which will be built for DirectX 12 and VR Gaming.

 

[Mopetar]

That doesn't really make sense for them to claim a 175W TDP. If it's a single 6-pin connector it could only draw 150W from the PCI connector plus the cable. I suppose they could want the manufacturers to over-engineer the cooling system, but the only other way it makes sense is if they're using an 8-pin connector but just not drawing as much power as possible or have some limited ability to very briefly boost up much higher and momentarily draw upwards of 200W.

 

[Qwertilot]

You can sort of make sense of that bit if you read it as meaning the chip itself could be pushed out to ~175w but they're not going to launch in that sort of heavily over clocked variant for whatever reason.

A fair chunk of the rest is flat out baffling though, so I wouldn't be inclined to give it that distinction

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

That doesn't really make sense for them to claim a 175W TDP. If it's a single 6-pin connector it could only draw 150W from the PCI connector plus the cable. I suppose they could want the manufacturers to over-engineer the cooling system, but the only other way it makes sense is if they're using an 8-pin connector but just not drawing as much power as possible or have some limited ability to very briefly boost up much higher and momentarily draw upwards of 200W.

Having product with performance headroom makes OEMs happy. Even better when the default variant cannot be flashed or OCed to an aftermarket one.