AMD Phenom II runs Crysis at 6.2GHz

[Mr Vain]

Looks like Intel might be in for a beating next year!

Quote
Almost always stable

We've seen Phenom II, Deneb overclocked all the way to 6.2GHz. This was not a screenshot boot, we've seen it with our own eyes, as chaps from AMD managed to run the Crysis benchmark several times. The machine was stable on almost every run.

AMD was insisting that this was a stock CPU, not a cherry picked one, and that similar scores should be expected from retail products. Intel has never managed to get to over 6GHz and we are sure that Intel is doing some catching up. You naturally need some LN2 to get to such a high scores and it looks that Phenom II might become an overclocker's favorite toy.

This is quite an achievement and with water you will get to 4GHz+, while with a good air cooler you should reach clocks around 4GHz.


http://www.fudzilla.com/index....view&id=10801&Itemid=1

Competition brings out the best in all things in life.

 

[Gikaseixas]

i'm waiting for Anandtech, Techreport reviews to make a decision (upgrading or jumping ship).

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Gikaseixas
i'm waiting for Anandtech, Techreport reviews to make a decision (upgrading or jumping ship).

I have been holding back an upgrade to a 4 core CPU for a long time now, hoping AMD would come back with something meaningful and that time maybe a month away.

 

[Mr Vain]

I might get one at Christmas if Santa gets my wish.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/...enom-ii-fore-christmas

DISTRIBUTORS IN EUROPE and North America will begin shipping both OEM and retail boxes of the Phenom II 920 and Phenom II 940 starting December 18th (Europe), according to one distributor, and December 20th (North America).

The Phenom II X4 920 SKU will sell at about $235 to retailers, while the overclocking whiz-kid, the Phenom II X4 940 will ship at $275. At least one distributor says December 20th is the ETA for the shipment.

As far as we can tell, pricing in Europe will be around ?220 for the 920 but will become available from the 18th. We couldn?t get a pricing on the 940, though, but we?d expect it to be in the ?250-265 range. Add tax to these numbers, if you will.

This puts the Phenom II X4 940 just under the Core 2 Quad 9550, while the Phenom II X4 920 will undercut the Q9400. Expect Intel to slash prices just before Christmas.

So those of you who wrote letters to Saint Nick asking for Phenom II, might get your wishes after all.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm waiting for the 95W versions. My mobo, a K9A2 Platinum v1.0, supposedly won't handle 125W CPUs.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Looks like Intel might be in for a beating next year!

Quote
Almost always stable

We've seen Phenom II, Deneb overclocked all the way to 6.2GHz. This was not a screenshot boot, we've seen it with our own eyes, as chaps from AMD managed to run the Crysis benchmark several times. The machine was stable on almost every run.

AMD was insisting that this was a stock CPU, not a cherry picked one, and that similar scores should be expected from retail products. Intel has never managed to get to over 6GHz and we are sure that Intel is doing some catching up. You naturally need some LN2 to get to such a high scores and it looks that Phenom II might become an overclocker's favorite toy.

This is quite an achievement and with water you will get to 4GHz+, while with a good air cooler you should reach clocks around 4GHz.


http://www.fudzilla.com/index....view&id=10801&Itemid=1

Competition brings out the best in all things in life.

As of now we havent seen anything that would cause you to buy a PII over a Yorkie (6.2ghz isnt a real number, and who knows if 2 cores were disabled?), so I dont know where the "beating" would be coming from. You can already get ~4ghz on air, and 4ghz+ with water.

The great thing that could come out of it is if it preforms about the same as Yorkie, and then we get what all consumers love: Price War!

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Looks like Intel might be in for a beating next year!

Quote
Almost always stable

We've seen Phenom II, Deneb overclocked all the way to 6.2GHz. This was not a screenshot boot, we've seen it with our own eyes, as chaps from AMD managed to run the Crysis benchmark several times. The machine was stable on almost every run.

AMD was insisting that this was a stock CPU, not a cherry picked one, and that similar scores should be expected from retail products. Intel has never managed to get to over 6GHz and we are sure that Intel is doing some catching up. You naturally need some LN2 to get to such a high scores and it looks that Phenom II might become an overclocker's favorite toy.

This is quite an achievement and with water you will get to 4GHz+, while with a good air cooler you should reach clocks around 4GHz.


http://www.fudzilla.com/index....view&id=10801&Itemid=1

Competition brings out the best in all things in life.

As of now we havent seen anything that would cause you to buy a PII over a Yorkie (6.2ghz isnt a real number, and who knows if 2 cores were disabled?), so I dont know where the "beating" would be coming from. You can already get ~4ghz on air, and 4ghz+ with water.

The great thing that could come out of it is if it preforms about the same as Yorkie, and then we get what all consumers love: Price War!

For AMD to match or better a yorkie is a beating in my vocalburary.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Looks like Intel might be in for a beating next year!

Quote
Almost always stable

We've seen Phenom II, Deneb overclocked all the way to 6.2GHz. This was not a screenshot boot, we've seen it with our own eyes, as chaps from AMD managed to run the Crysis benchmark several times. The machine was stable on almost every run.

AMD was insisting that this was a stock CPU, not a cherry picked one, and that similar scores should be expected from retail products. Intel has never managed to get to over 6GHz and we are sure that Intel is doing some catching up. You naturally need some LN2 to get to such a high scores and it looks that Phenom II might become an overclocker's favorite toy.

This is quite an achievement and with water you will get to 4GHz+, while with a good air cooler you should reach clocks around 4GHz.


http://www.fudzilla.com/index....view&id=10801&Itemid=1

Competition brings out the best in all things in life.

As of now we havent seen anything that would cause you to buy a PII over a Yorkie (6.2ghz isnt a real number, and who knows if 2 cores were disabled?), so I dont know where the "beating" would be coming from. You can already get ~4ghz on air, and 4ghz+ with water.

The great thing that could come out of it is if it preforms about the same as Yorkie, and then we get what all consumers love: Price War!

For AMD to match or better a yorkie is a beating in my vocalburary.

Im pretty sure that someone has gotten over 6 GHZ with the yorkfield on LN2. So AMD doing the same thing is pretty pointless. Yorkfield also gets to 4GHZ on air cooling, so AMD hasn't beaten them there. And from the Pre-benchmarks that I have seen, AMD preforms about equal to Yorkfield (Sometimes yorkfield wins, sometimes AMD wins)

All in all, No creditable review site has posted a review on PII yet, so saying it is going to be greater then Yorkfield in every way is pre-mature.

I hope AMD does really well, but its still too soon to call it.

 

[dmens]

AMD was insisting that this was a stock CPU, not a cherry picked one, and that similar scores should be expected from retail products

i call shens

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Cogman
Im pretty sure that someone has gotten over 6 GHZ with the yorkfield on LN2. So AMD doing the same thing is pretty pointless. Yorkfield also gets to 4GHZ on air cooling, so AMD hasn't beaten them there. And from the Pre-benchmarks that I have seen, AMD preforms about equal to Yorkfield (Sometimes yorkfield wins, sometimes AMD wins)

All in all, No creditable review site has posted a review on PII yet, so saying it is going to be greater then Yorkfield in every way is pre-mature.

I hope AMD does really well, but its still too soon to call it.

I haven't heard anyone say that a Phenom II was better in every way to a Yorkfield. Everyone is just excited that they are approximately equal in performance. It means we might actually have a choice in quad core processors now!

 

[Nemesis 1]

OP you don't have to sell P2 if its that good of an O/C It will sell its self. Iwill by the Htt 3 0ne myself. At that price one would be retarded not to. I hope AMD can do whats been stated. Intel IC7 965 will have to come to same price point. I am a little concerned about the price and the release speed . As things are not making good sense. If These unlocked 940s can O/C like stated price is a bit low.

 

[piesquared]

Well this is interesting,

no cold bugs....

and they are experiementing with liquid Helium @-269*c, a little harder delivery since it atomizes almost instantly when exposed to air, so it is delivered via a tube inserted into the liquid Helium and just the injection of the tube tickles the Helium to coarse up and out the tube into the container....

http://www.cpu-central.com/wwwboard/msg80.asp?id=80723

He was at AMD's event lastnight, and brings information of limited availability in December.

 

[DSF]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

For AMD to match or better a yorkie is a beating in my vocalburary.

I don't understand how one company matching another qualifies as a beating.

That's like saying the Giants beat the Patriots 13-13.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: Martimus

Originally posted by: Cogman
Im pretty sure that someone has gotten over 6 GHZ with the yorkfield on LN2. So AMD doing the same thing is pretty pointless. Yorkfield also gets to 4GHZ on air cooling, so AMD hasn't beaten them there. And from the Pre-benchmarks that I have seen, AMD preforms about equal to Yorkfield (Sometimes yorkfield wins, sometimes AMD wins)

All in all, No creditable review site has posted a review on PII yet, so saying it is going to be greater then Yorkfield in every way is pre-mature.

I hope AMD does really well, but its still too soon to call it.

I haven't heard anyone say that a Phenom II was better in every way to a Yorkfield. Everyone is just excited that they are approximately equal in performance. It means we might actually have a choice in quad core processors now!

The post above me said

For AMD to match or better a yorkie is a beating in my vocalburary.[/b]

match or better = AMD has in every way a better processor. That was what I was responding to.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Martimus

Originally posted by: Cogman
Im pretty sure that someone has gotten over 6 GHZ with the yorkfield on LN2. So AMD doing the same thing is pretty pointless. Yorkfield also gets to 4GHZ on air cooling, so AMD hasn't beaten them there. And from the Pre-benchmarks that I have seen, AMD preforms about equal to Yorkfield (Sometimes yorkfield wins, sometimes AMD wins)

All in all, No creditable review site has posted a review on PII yet, so saying it is going to be greater then Yorkfield in every way is pre-mature.

I hope AMD does really well, but its still too soon to call it.

I haven't heard anyone say that a Phenom II was better in every way to a Yorkfield. Everyone is just excited that they are approximately equal in performance. It means we might actually have a choice in quad core processors now!

Recently a 3dmark vantage score popped up that shows a 3Ghz PII with a CPU score of 10075. A 2.6Ghz Q9450 gets 10943 in the same tests. So approx equal in performance? Hardly.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Looks like Intel might be in for a beating next year!

Quote
Almost always stable

We've seen Phenom II, Deneb overclocked all the way to 6.2GHz. This was not a screenshot boot, we've seen it with our own eyes, as chaps from AMD managed to run the Crysis benchmark several times. The machine was stable on almost every run.

AMD was insisting that this was a stock CPU, not a cherry picked one, and that similar scores should be expected from retail products. Intel has never managed to get to over 6GHz and we are sure that Intel is doing some catching up. You naturally need some LN2 to get to such a high scores and it looks that Phenom II might become an overclocker's favorite toy.

This is quite an achievement and with water you will get to 4GHz+, while with a good air cooler you should reach clocks around 4GHz.


http://www.fudzilla.com/index....view&id=10801&Itemid=1

Competition brings out the best in all things in life.

As of now we havent seen anything that would cause you to buy a PII over a Yorkie (6.2ghz isnt a real number, and who knows if 2 cores were disabled?), so I dont know where the "beating" would be coming from. You can already get ~4ghz on air, and 4ghz+ with water.

The great thing that could come out of it is if it preforms about the same as Yorkie, and then we get what all consumers love: Price War!

For AMD to match or better a yorkie is a beating in my vocalburary.

Matching tech that has been out for 1yr+ on the previous architechture is "beating"? That's what I call a low bar!

 

[The J]

If the Phenom II is priced lower than the equivalent Core 2 Quad, then AMD could win the price/performance ratio.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: The J
If the Phenom II is priced lower than the equivalent Core 2 Quad, then AMD could win the price/performance ratio.

Well, I demand performance first. I don't care if it's $100 if it doesn't perform as I need it to.

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: DSF

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

For AMD to match or better a yorkie is a beating in my vocalburary.

I don't understand how one company matching another qualifies as a beating.

That's like saying the Giants beat the Patriots 13-13.

For AMD to come back from so far behind and equal or surpass a Yorkie in my opinion is a win for AMD and if it all pans out for them the prices of 4 core cpu's should drop with the competition. There is a good chance that this will happen from what is out there so far and that is going to be a beating on Intel?s revenue and pride IMO.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: DSF

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

For AMD to match or better a yorkie is a beating in my vocalburary.

I don't understand how one company matching another qualifies as a beating.

That's like saying the Giants beat the Patriots 13-13.

For AMD to come back from so far behind and equal or surpass a Yorkie in my opinion is a win for AMD and if it all pans out for them the prices of 4 core cpu's should drop with the competition. There is a good chance that this will happen from what is out there so far and that is going to be a beating on Intel?s revenue and pride IMO.

Either you don't read replies to your posts, or you don't care I guess. Even if they matched Yorkie, they are still behind. Yorkie is "old" tech. (Although for most people it is still the best choice)


Thanks to AMD, the GPU in my sig was ~$200 less than it would have been without the 4XXX series being released. Most people here know the benefits of having two real players in the game. But comments like the bolded just make you sound like a fanboi.

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: DSF

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

For AMD to match or better a yorkie is a beating in my vocalburary.

I don't understand how one company matching another qualifies as a beating.

That's like saying the Giants beat the Patriots 13-13.

For AMD to come back from so far behind and equal or surpass a Yorkie in my opinion is a win for AMD and if it all pans out for them the prices of 4 core cpu's should drop with the competition. There is a good chance that this will happen from what is out there so far and that is going to be a beating on Intel?s revenue and pride IMO.

Either you don't read replies to your posts, or you don't care I guess. Even if they matched Yorkie, they are still behind. Yorkie is "old" tech. (Although for most people it is still the best choice)


Thanks to AMD, the GPU in my sig was ~$200 less than it would have been without the 4XXX series being released. Most people here know the benefits of having two real players in the game. But comments like the bolded just make you sound like a fanboi.

Well I own 4 Intel CPU's and 2 AMD, that must makes me an Intel fanboy?
There is no need to be so rigid dude; I'm just conveying the hopes of many with a bit of tongue in cheek man so chill.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Either you don't read replies to your posts, or you don't care I guess. Even if they matched Yorkie, they are still behind. Yorkie is "old" tech. (Although for most people it is still the best choice)


Thanks to AMD, the GPU in my sig was ~$200 less than it would have been without the 4XXX series being released. Most people here know the benefits of having two real players in the game. But comments like the bolded just make you sound like a fanboi.

You are right in the fact that they are still behind, however for most people (as you said) nehelam isn't an option. Intel has to realize this. If PII are reasonably priced, they could hurt Intel in the mid ranged market (more like it was previously with AMD having better CPUs in the mid->low range but intel owning the upper echelon).

Either way, if Intel wants to keep amd beat down they will probably have to lower the prices n their Yorkies. Good news for everyone. (PII has the potential to cause intel to decrease their Nehalem prices sooner then expected, but that's more of a long shot.)

 

[Phynaz]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Almost always stable

In other words, not stable.

Can we implement an autoban for posting Fudzilla links?

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: DSF

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

For AMD to match or better a yorkie is a beating in my vocalburary.

I don't understand how one company matching another qualifies as a beating.

That's like saying the Giants beat the Patriots 13-13.

For AMD to come back from so far behind and equal or surpass a Yorkie in my opinion is a win for AMD and if it all pans out for them the prices of 4 core cpu's should drop with the competition. There is a good chance that this will happen from what is out there so far and that is going to be a beating on Intel?s revenue and pride IMO.

Either you don't read replies to your posts, or you don't care I guess. Even if they matched Yorkie, they are still behind. Yorkie is "old" tech. (Although for most people it is still the best choice)


Thanks to AMD, the GPU in my sig was ~$200 less than it would have been without the 4XXX series being released. Most people here know the benefits of having two real players in the game. But comments like the bolded just make you sound like a fanboi.

How is that the Yorkfield architecture low tech? It is very high tech in the way it is optimized. Most people (enthusiast) will purchase AMD chips when HT3 comes in play. As of now it will be a decent upgrade for the individuals who have purchased a compatible motherboard.

Do I think the presentation with it running at 6.2ghz is all fluff? It is meant for marketing and headlines. I think that has been well established.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Matching tech that has been out for 1yr+ on the previous architechture is "beating"? That's what I call a low bar!

Reminds me of the Palin vs. Biden debate and the expectations that Palin wins so long as she doesn't do 2x worse than Biden (paraphrasing the rhetoric around it at the time).

Bottom line is that there is a school of thought that adheres to this "level the playing field by assessing liberal handicap" and viola the person/company/side/issue they really wanted to win by this "new fair & balanced" metric of success suddenly emerges as the winner.

Finding folks conforming to this school of thought is not surprising, developing a personal SOP as to how you deal with them once they are identified is a key to your sanity though. (deep thoughts by Jack Handy)