AMD launches Zen+ 12nm Ryzen and X470 motherboards

[Mockingbird]

 

[DrMrLordX]

April? Boo. Was hoping for late Feb/early March. Oh well.

 

[Mockingbird]

Today we bring you the world exclusive that will be the official presentation of the AMD Ryzen 2000 (also known as Ryzen 2), and this translates to let you know all the models that we will have available on the day of its release, its specifications, performance , release date, and prices .

Model Cores / Threads Freq.Base Freq.Max Boost TDP
Ryzen 7 2700X 8/16 3.70 GHz 4.35 GHz 105W
Ryzen 7 2700 8/16 3.20 GHz 4.10 GHz 65W
Ryzen 5 2600X 6/12 3.60 GHz 4.25 GHz 95W
Ryzen 5 2600 6/12 3.40 GHz 3.90 GHz 65W
As you can see there will be four models, where the " X " variants include the Precision Boost 2 and Precision Boost Overdrive technology , the " No X " variants do not have Boost overdrive. The Ryzen 7 have a Smart Prefetch Cache of 20 MB compared to 19 MB of the Ryzen 5. All CPUs have 16 PCIe lines and a DDR4 @ 2933 MHz memory controller .

These processors, in addition to having the Precision Boost Overdrive technology, also have the XFR2 Enhanced automatic overclock. In both cases, in order to use said technology, the use of one of the new motherboards equipped with the AMD X470 or AMD B450 chipset will be required , they are the only existing changes compared to the current generation of motherboards.

Official benchmarks


AMD itself tells us that the final performance improvement was not as good as we expected, since the Ryzen 7 2700X only offers a 5% improvement over the Ryzen 7 1800X , a test that has been conducted with more than a score of games run at Full HD @ Ultra resolution with a GeForce GTX 1080 . In a direct comparison with the Core i7-8700K, the Ryzen 7 2700X is 7.7% slower .

Availability and price


As you can see below, Ryzen 2000 processors will reach prices that will move between 199 and 369 dollars , prices very similar to those of Intel Core, which helps us extrapolate that in euros the thing will be very similar . While the Ryzen 7 2700X will be almost 8 percent slower than the Core i7-8700K , selling it for 1 dollar less does not make up for seeing AMD as a good option if we only think about using it to play.

As for the release date, we should find them for sale on April 19 at 15:00 p.m. GMT +1 in Spain.

Source: https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2018/03/exclusiva-familia-amd-ryzen-2000-al-completo-benchmarks-precios-y-fecha-de-lanzamiento/

 

[Mockingbird]

AMD 12nm Ryzen launches in April
AMD has confirmed in official press slides that second-generation Ryzen high-performance CPU will launch in April 2018. AMD promises that first 12nm Zen+ processors will have higher clocks and support Precision Boost 2 technology.

Additionally, AMD has confirmed that X470, second-generation chipset for Ryzen CPUs will also launch in April 2018. According to AMD, X470 platform is to be optimized for 2nd Generation Ryzen CPUs.

AMD 2nd Gen Ryzen Threadripper in 2H 2018
The official roadmap confirms that while Ryzen 2nd Gen will launch in Q2 2018, the enthusiast desktop Ryzen Threadripper series will be released in the second half of 2018, along with 2nd Gen Ryzen PRO series.

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During AMD’s CES 2018 Tech Day, CEO Lisa Su announced the plans for the second-generation Ryzen processor roll-out in April. This is the revised design that has been rumored for months, with a process technology change and slight tweaks to features.


Details are expectantly short, but what we know is that these parts will move from a 14nm process technology to 12nm from GlobalFoundries. AMD is calling the design “Zen+” and this is NOT Zen 2 – that is coming next year. You should expect higher clocks for Ryzen 2000-series processors and improvements to Precision Boost that will enable more consistent and gradual clock speed shifts in workloads of interesting like gaming.


Also on the roadmap now are updated Threadripper processors with the same “Zen+” enhancements, coming out in 2H of 2018.


The great news for enthusiasts that have already bought into AMD’s current generation platform is existing motherboards will support this processor update, as long as you have the associated BIOS. Motherboards are already being updated today for the channel (to support the Ryzen APU launch) so there should be little concern with compatibility come April.


However, there IS a new chipset coming with “Zen+”, the AMD X470. Information on it is also slim, but it includes some optimizations and fixes. AMD had growing pains with the initial set of motherboard releases including power concerns and routing issues, both of which are addressed with the new design.

That’s all we know for now, but I am excited to get my hands on the Ryzen second-generation processors this spring to see how much performance and behavior has changed. Intel has definitely changed the landscape since Ryzen’s first release in March of 2017, so enthusiasts should welcome the back and forth competition cycle once again.

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processo...eration-Ryzen-CPUs-April-Threadripper-2H-2018

 

[goldstone77]

AMD Tech Day at CES: 2018 Roadmap Revealed, with Ryzen APUs, Zen+ on 12nm, Vega on 7nm
by Ian Cutress on January 8, 2018 12:01 AM EST

Release dates
Ryzen 3 Mobile APUs: January 9th
Ryzen Desktop APUs: February 12th
Second Generation Ryzen Desktop Processors: April.
Ryzen Pro Mobile APUs: Q2 2018
Second Generation Threadripper Processors: 2H 2018
Second Generation Ryzen Pro Desktop Processors: 2H 2018

Also on the list is perhaps the surprise announcement of the day: AMD will be bringing Vega to 7nm, with customer sampling expected to start in 2018. This ultimately means that Vega on 7nm will hit the shelves in 2019, but there is a twist to the tale. The first products off the line will be solely for the Radeon Instinct family and machine learning. Users who want 7nm desktop-class products will have to wait a little longer, but it does give an indication of how GlobalFoundries 7nm process is coming along.

 

[bakyt115]

AMD expects CPU launches through 2020 to far exceed the typical 7-percent to 8-percent performance increases we've seen of late.

(from https://www.pcworld.com/article/324...r-2-7nm-navi-and-more-in-ces-blockbuster.html)

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Very cool, Hope they start showing a bit more motherboards tomorrow at CES.

 

[RichUK]

I wonder whether this new Ryzen will actually achieve decent memory overclocks, or just be another potato in this regard.

 

[goldstone77]

We will know for sure by April how much performance to expect. 10% with Ze

I wonder whether this new Ryzen will actually achieve decent memory overclocks, or just be another potato in this regard.

4000MHz from what I read.

 

[maddie]

According to Ian Cutress:
"What was quite surprising is how much AMD exposed about their plans for 2018, detailing several product lines and launch times well in advance"

Exactly what they should do in the present climate of exploitable CPU flaws and performance sapping fixes. Anyone agree?

 

[goldstone77]

I think AMD is showing detailed product maps with launch dates because they want to show everyone that they are prepared and everything is on time. After the botched release time table with Vega, they want to show that they are on track and making a timely product releases to show reliability.

 

[moinmoin]

AMD's product map was pretty predictable even before this, so in my eyes they are double downing by essentially confirming everything that was easy to predict. Being predictable, accurately describing (and not exagerating) features and being close to the timetable they set themselves also raises the worth and believability of every mention about their future Zen 2 and 3 based products as well.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

So if I want the next Ryzen desktop iteration from e.g. R7 1700X I have to wait for Ryzen2 or

 

[IRobot23]

AMD's product map was pretty predictable even before this, so in my eyes they are double downing by essentially confirming everything that was easy to predict. Being predictable, accurately describing (and not exagerating) features and being close to the timetable they set themselves also raises the worth and believability of every mention about their future Zen 2 and 3 based products as well.

Sure, everyone knew that raven apu will be so cheap

 

[Kenmitch]

So if I want the next Ryzen desktop iteration from e.g. R7 1700X I have to wait for Ryzen2 or

Guess it would really depend on how Zen + performs and your expectations.

 

[Mockingbird]

AMD expects CPU launches through 2020 to far exceed the typical 7-percent to 8-percent performance increases we've seen of late.

(from https://www.pcworld.com/article/324...r-2-7nm-navi-and-more-in-ces-blockbuster.html)

Not surprising.

Zen is a brand new architecture, so there's probably a lot of low hanging fruits left.

 

[cbn]

Hoping X470 has PCIe 3.0 options from the chipset.

X370 sends PCIe 3.0 x 4 to the chipset and this becomes PCIe 2.0 x 8.

It would be great if X470 allowed PCIe 3.0 x 2 + PCIe 2.0 x 4 (even when PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe is present)

Either that or allow CPU RAID from a second PCIe 3.0 x 8 (in a system with two PCIe 3.0 x8 rather than one PCIe 3.0 x16)

 

[goldstone77]

Hoping X470 has PCIe 3.0 options from the chipset.

X370 sends PCIe 3.0 x 4 to the chipset and this becomes PCIe 2.0 x 8.

It would be great if X470 allowed PCIe 3.0 x 2 + PCIe 2.0 x 4 (even when PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe is present)

Either that or allow CPU RAID from a second PCIe 3.0 x 8 (in a system with two PCIe 3.0 x8 rather than one PCIe 3.0 x16)

CES 2018 - ASRock was teasing their new Ultra Quad M.2 Card at CES 2018, with their new card capable of housing 4 x NMVe M.2 SSDs, cooled by a 50mm centrifugal fan.
The company is comparing it against the ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 card, with ASRock's new card featuring a bigger fan, and 6-pin PCIe power connector. ASRock also mounts the M.2 SSDs angled from the bottom, which also looks awesome, now we just need RGBs.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60511/asrocks-new-ultra-quad-2-card-4-nvme-ssds-pcie-x16/index.html

 

[Soulkeeper]

Any word on if X470 will be required for zen2 ?

 

[goldstone77]

Any word on if X470 will be required for zen2 ?

AM4 will work all the way to ZEN 3. Of course there will be new chipsets and motherboards every year adding more features than the year before.

Edit: Also, of course you will need a bios update from your motherboard manufacturer to run the new AMD chips.

 

[stuff_me_good]

Little bit out of topic, but I would assume ry(zen 3) will have DDR4/DDR5 memory controller, and this has been done before, but how much transistors does CPU memory controller take?

 

[DrMrLordX]

Ryzen 3 will almost certainly have a DDR4 controller to make it compatible with X370 and other existing AM4 chipsets. It may have a dual memory controller so that AMD can put it on a new platform as well.

I'm not sure what the average die area is for IMCs is right now.

 

[LTC8K6]

DDR5 seems a ways off yet, while GDDR6 will likely appear very soon on vid cards.

 

[raghu78]

Little bit out of topic, but I would assume ry(zen 3) will have DDR4/DDR5 memory controller, and this has been done before, but how much transistors does CPU memory controller take?

DDR5 will not arrive before 2020 for mainstream and thus Zen 3 (Ryzen 4000 series) is the earliest when you can expect a DDR5 memory controller.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

I was just looking today and was thinking about upgrading to faster Memory, something like 32GB of G.skill DDR4 3200 RGB from my 16GB of Crucial Ballistix DDR4 2666 which I have now. Would it be worth it to upgrade now or is DDR5 right around the corner? Wanting to upgrade because of the 15% off sale going on right now at newegg. Would I even see an improvement going from 2666 to 3200 and 16gb to 32gb? I do a crap ton of photo and video editing and some gaming. What is the speed standard going to be this time around with the New Ryzen 2 CPU's. Wanting a 2800x or what ever the top model is in April. What would you guys do buy now or wait a little bit?