AMD Introduces 1GHz, 6 watt Athlon

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Wonder what it costs, that would be nice for sff/htpc systems (of which I have 2 :)).
 

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Holy crap! That's AWESOME!! :D :D

So long, Cyrix! Who needs you when you can get real performance without a fan from AMD! :p


This good ol' Socket A?
 

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The NX 1500@6W processor leverages Mobile AMD Athlon? processor technology to deliver superior computing power for... high-end printers

Nice... now I can put linux on and play quake on my printer! Huzza!
 

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Originally posted by: bluemax
Holy crap! That's AWESOME!! :D :D

So long, Cyrix! Who needs you when you can get real performance without a fan from AMD! :p


This good ol' Socket A?

Yes. It is a socket A CPU. It runs on 1 volt.
 

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Why would they compare their rating to a Nehemiah core instead of comparing it to the ULV Pentium M core. At 1.1 GHz the ULV Pentium M has a TDP of 7W
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Originally posted by: bluemax
Holy crap! That's AWESOME!! :D :D

So long, Cyrix! Who needs you when you can get real performance without a fan from AMD! :p


This good ol' Socket A?
Yeah man! BTW, they actually tested it on a moddified A7V8X-MX :cool:
 

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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Why would they compare their rating to a Nehemiah core instead of comparing it to the ULV Pentium M core. At 1.1 GHz the ULV Pentium M has a TDP of 7W
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My guess is that because of the larger cache on the Intel and various other factors that the AMD chip is going to be much less expensive and consequently more in direct competition with the Via. I'd think the P-M will destoy both of these for performance but so would the price tag?
 
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And a 1.4GHz model with 14W? I forsee a whole new rack of weird passive-cooled systems on the horizon, and a serious drop in VIA's shares. :D

Wonder when we'll be able to buy one?

- M4H
 

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Why is the one running at 1GHz called a 1500 and the one running at 1.4GHz called a 1750? That doesn't make sense. If the 1GHz is getting 1.5 rating points per MHz, how does the 1.4GHz chip only get .625 ratings points per incremental MHz? That seems strange to me. Are they crippling it in some other way?
 

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amd just never cease to amaze me!
amd just never cease to amaze me!
amd just never cease to amaze me!
amd just never cease to amaze me!
amd just never cease to amaze me!
:D
 

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Why is the one running at 1GHz called a 1500 and the one running at 1.4GHz called a 1750? That doesn't make sense. If the 1GHz is getting 1.5 rating points per MHz, how does the 1.4GHz chip only get .625 ratings points per incremental MHz? That seems strange to me. Are they crippling it in some other way?

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/synchromesh_whitepaper051904.pdf
It looks like the Geode NX really flies at some of the memory-related benchmarks... those probalby don't scale as much with clock speed, so you only see gains on benchmarks where it had a smaller lead to begin with (?).
 

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Very interesting... nice post! The only thing that scares me is the word "embedded". In my experience, "embedded"=expensive (i've seen that word attached to several mini and micro ATX Pentium M motherboards that were more than $300... with no AGP slot). Hopefully the "modified" Asus motherboard isn't heavily modified.... or there will be enough incentive for Asus/whoever to put out a flexATX motherboard for the 1GHz+ versions.
 

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Originally posted by: HokieESM
Very interesting... nice post! The only thing that scares me is the word "embedded". In my experience, "embedded"=expensive (i've seen that word attached to several mini and micro ATX Pentium M motherboards that were more than $300... with no AGP slot). Hopefully the "modified" Asus motherboard isn't heavily modified.... or there will be enough incentive for Asus/whoever to put out a flexATX motherboard for the 1GHz+ versions.

Since it's a Socket A CPU, it's likely that the mod was just a voltage mod (and there are howtos for that all over the net ;)). I edited my original post to include price info.
 

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If it's just as cheap, just as cool, but with double the processing power, why would it NOT replace the C3?
 

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Why would they compare their rating to a Nehemiah core instead of comparing it to the ULV Pentium M core. At 1.1 GHz the ULV Pentium M has a TDP of 7W
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My guess is that because of the larger cache on the Intel and various other factors that the AMD chip is going to be much less expensive and consequently more in direct competition with the Via. I'd think the P-M will destoy both of these for performance but so would the price tag?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/10/intel_dothan_launch/
As of two weeks ago, a 1.3GHz Pentium M cost over $200. You could get 4 of the Geode NX1750@14W cpus for the same price.
 

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Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Why would they compare their rating to a Nehemiah core instead of comparing it to the ULV Pentium M core. At 1.1 GHz the ULV Pentium M has a TDP of 7W
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My guess is that because of the larger cache on the Intel and various other factors that the AMD chip is going to be much less expensive and consequently more in direct competition with the Via. I'd think the P-M will destoy both of these for performance but so would the price tag?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/10/intel_dothan_launch/
As of two weeks ago, a 1.3GHz Pentium M cost over $200. You could get 4 of the Geode NX1750@14W cpus for the same price.

Wow, if I sell enough junk for a refurb XPC I might buy the NX1750 to pop in there.

EDIT: Hey! Does anyone else notice that for the benchmarks the FSB on the NX1500 is oddly 333Mhz instead of the stated 266Mhz?
 

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Originally posted by: PorBleemo
EDIT: Hey! Does anyone else notice that for the benchmarks the FSB on the NX1500 is oddly 333Mhz instead of the stated 266Mhz?

Where do you see that? Are you sure you didn't confuse the Geode GX 466@0.9W's core speed of 333MHz with the FSB of the Geode NX?
 

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Bluemax,

RE:"So long, Cyrix! Who needs you when you can get real performance without a fan from AMD!"

Did you know that this chip evolved from a Cyrix design?
 

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Originally posted by: bluemax
If it's just as cheap, just as cool, but with double the processing power, why would it NOT replace the C3?

Well, for the system I have in mind, the C3's crypto performance(well over an order of magnitude over that of a 1 GHz AXP) matters quite a bit, so there's one reason ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Macro2
Bluemax,

RE:"So long, Cyrix! Who needs you when you can get real performance without a fan from AMD!"

Did you know that this chip evolved from a Cyrix design?
By "this chip", do you mean the Via C3? Yes, Via bought the Cyrix stuff.


Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: bluemax
If it's just as cheap, just as cool, but with double the processing power, why would it NOT replace the C3?

Well, for the system I have in mind, the C3's crypto performance(well over an order of magnitude over that of a 1 GHz AXP) matters quite a bit, so there's one reason ;)

You have software that takes advantage of the hardware AES support? Or is it just an on-chip random number generator that makes it so fast?

Originally posted by: txxxx
Does this core have 3x X86 Pipelines?
Yes, same as regular Athlons.
From the PDF:
9-issue, superscalar, 32-bit micro architecture
3 parallel x86 Instruction Decoders
3 superscalar, out-of-order integer pipelines
3 superscalar, out-of-order multimedia pipelines