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yy3d

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Anyone can tell me which one u 'd perfer?

There are 2 cpu:

AMD Athlon XP 3000+ "Barton", 333 FSB, 512K Cache , Operating Frequency: 2.16GHz
Intel Pentium 4/ 2.4B GHz 533MHz FSB, 512K Cache , Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz

Assume both cpu use 2700 ram.

The price of this AMD cpu is more expensive than this intel cpu. Is that mean this amd is faster than the intel ?
According to those feature, the intel has faster Operating Frequency and FSB than amd has. Is that mean the intel faster than the AMD? Correct? if yes, why amd 's price is more expensive than intel??
 
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Duvie

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The amd 3000+ Barton is using a PR rating.....Is this case versus the p4b 2.4ghz it is faster in a majotiry of all apps....

A more equal comparison would be like a 2600+ xp or a 2500+ Barton and even then it probably leans more to the AMD.....

3000+ is probably mor equal to a 2.8ghz 533fsb chip of a 2.6c 800fsb P4c....With that in mind the 3000+ is priced very well against the cpus it is more comparable to. It is much faster then the 2.4b so it should cost more...
 
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Corporate Thug

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the 3000+ barton costs around $200

for a few more $$ you can get an A64 3000+ that will destroy both those chips
 
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the barton would tear up that P4b
even a 2500+ would if you overclocked it
the p4c tho is a lot more competitive and in many cases faster than the barton tho
 
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Definatly bump up $11 and get an A64 3000+ way faster than either one of those chips.
 
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Dustswirl

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...Or wait for 939 sockets and new cpus, the introduction of these will surely bring down prices! (hopefully)

That's what am doing though i feel an URGE to get a a64 system...
 
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Duvie

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Ofcourse since you picked 2 chips so far apart from each other being comparable.....How about picking an intel p4c chip close in price to the 3000+......

A 2.8c is around same price and will beat the 3000+ in a majority of all apps....

Now the clan here says spend 211 and get te a64.....I say then look at the 3.0c.....

The question then comes down to intended use.

Gaming, office apps, scientific = AMD 3000+ is better

Multimedia, Rendering (some), Distributed computing = P4 3.0c will do better


I would like to think reasonable AMD64 fans would not disagree wih those statements at the current moment in time since these are the stance by most all the powerhouse review sites, but many A64 fans around these parts are not....Some above know who I am talking about...

 
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Swanny

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That particular AMD chip would blow that particular Intel chip out of the water in most tests.
 
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batmanuel

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Or you could just do what every else does and get either an Athlon XP 2500+ (running at 1.83GHz) for $90 and OC it to 3200+ speeds (2.2 GHz) and beyond or go for a 2.4C P4 (about $165) and OC it to at least 3.2GHz. If you have the right boards (nForce 2 for the AMD chip, Springdale or Canterwood for the Intel chip) you are pretty much guaranteed to be able to overclock either of these chips to a performance level that exceeds either of the two chips you mention in your post.

And don't be confused by the lower clock speed of the AMD chips. An Athlon has a shorter execution pipeline than a P4, so it gets more work done each clock cycle. Intel has introduced things like special SSE2 instructions and Hyperthreading to make the P4 more competitive, but at the same clock speed the AMD processor will be faster, thus AMD introduced a Performance Rating (PR) so a customer can roughly tell how fast an Athlon will be compared to a P4. If anything the PR is actually kinda conservative for most of the speed range of the Athlon (for instance, an Athlon XP 2500+ will be more than a match for a P4 2.6GHz, even though it runs at a much lower clock speed), except around the high end of its speed range where its architecture begins to show its age. So a 3200+ Athlon XP actually is a measurable bit slower tahn a 3.2GHz P4. Luckily for AMD, this is where their Athlon 64 line picks up the ball and gives the P4 some serious competition.

Confusing? You bet. When it comes down to brass tacks, though either the AXP 2500+ or the P4 2.4C is where you ought to be investing your money, since there is little reason to invest in the more expensive CPUs if the cheaper ones can be so easily OD'd, unless you want to get an Athlon 64 so you can play hunt the driver with the WinXP 64-bit Edition Preview.
 
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Originally posted by: batmanuel
2.4C P4 (about $265)
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where are you paying $265 for this 2.4c? My local computer store lists it for $215cdn (~$160us). Oh, did you mean $165?
 
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batmanuel

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Originally posted by: kamper
Originally posted by: batmanuel
2.4C P4 (about $265)
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where are you paying $265 for this 2.4c? My local computer store lists it for $215cdn (~$160us). Oh, did you mean $165?
Click to expand...

Yeah, I mean $165. Thus are the dangers of typing on one page while checking newegg's price on another.

 
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