AMD - Intel competing bus standards...who will win out??

[NFS4]

I think that AMD has the upper hand so far as far as developer/industry support on HyperTransport:

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6675392.html?tag=cd_pr

 

[shathal]

Depends on what one tries to do with it.

You show my how HT is supposed to work well in a "REAL" SMP environment (that being more than 2 CPUs). Call me spoilt for choice, but I find taking dual-cpu system seriously a little challenging at times. Well - comes with the job I guess .

From what I've seen on it, it's rather an interesting & good approach for dual-proc SMP-ing. But it should be hard to handle when you're getting into serious SMP systems - i.e.: 4-way and up.

I'm not dissing it - it may well evolve that we've got two different busses - one for dual-proc-ing, one for "big" servers.

It certainly will be interesting to follow .

 

[NFS4]

Oh, it definitely will be "interesting" to say the least

 

[dullard]

Since both standards can do the same job, it would be stupid to go with the more expensive one. Does anyone have a clue which would cost more to implement?

 

[majewski9]

Why does Intel have to be so difficult? Hypertransport is by far a better bus than PCI. Why won't Intel jump on the Hypertransport bandwagon? Don't they have a much bigger market competition with AMD?

 

[grant2]

hypertransport because it has a cooler name.

Come on, do you think people will buy stuff for their "three-gee-eye-oh" slot when they can get it for their "h-slot"?

 

[thorin]

I understand your question but that's not the only competting standard/choice they have to settle:

1) IA64 vs x86-64
2) SSE/MMX vs 3DNow
3) CPU Form Factor
4) Chipsets
5) Memory type (although this is coming back together with DDR)
6) Bus standard(s) (as you mentioned)
7) Cache architecure(s)/levels

"Since both standards can do the same job, it would be stupid to go with the more expensive one. Does anyone have a clue which would cost more to implement? "

Agreed.

Thorin

 

[sandorski]

AMD is getting a lot of support with HT and it's quite divergent in the hardware it will be used in. In fact, I'd say that neither may win out, per se. HT will most likely become integrated into future AMD mobos in some capacity(certainly AMD won't be able to force a divergent standard for PC cards or drives for it, but they can use it as a mobo bus).

I dunno, I think both will be used.

 

[Macro2]

RE:"Why does Intel have to be so difficult? Hypertransport is by far a better bus than PCI. Why won't Intel jump on the Hypertransport bandwagon?"

because Intel is into CONTROL. Rarely do they ever adopt someone elses standard unless they can control it. The last time they tried it however, it backfired...a la Rambus...and they had to backtrack to SDRAM and later DDR.

If people would just boycot Intels foolishness they would be alot better off...

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