AMD FX-6300 6 Core Black Edition Processor

[Pow0001]

What are peoples thoughts on the MD FX-6300 6 Core Black Edition Processor.

 

[Rickyyy369]

I'd rather have an i3.

 

[jji7skyline]

It's an alright choice depending on your usage. i3 has better single-threaded performance and lower power/heat output though.

 

[frozentundra123456]

In what context? For the price it is a decent processor, but the price cuts and new models on the FX8xxx have made it less popular I think. And not having intregated graphics limits its appeal for everything except a gaming build which was going to have a dedicated card in the first place.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

For a few bucks more you could get a FX8320e with 2 more cores.I think it would be a better deal.

 

[LTC8K6]

It's okay, if okay is all you need.

 

[soccerballtux]

For a few bucks more you could get a FX8320e with 2 more cores.I think it would be a better deal.

an 8 core and overclocking to 4.3ghz for $120 is the only way to go on the FX-series IMHO. otherwise go intel

 

[KingFatty]

It might save a bit of power compared to the 8XXX series chips, which might mean it could work in your motherboard if your mobo doesn't have robust power output.

 

[Erenhardt]

In well threaded games it is about the same as haswell i3. After OCing it is quite a bit faster. It needs more power than i3, but is cheaper.

If you can get a good deal on it it is still a very potent CPU. And DX12 should make it a clear winner against i3.

 

[Leyawiin]

And DX12 should make it a clear winner against i3.

Been hearing this "just wait until its optimized" kind of thing for four years. I've learned to never hold my breath where FX performance hopes are concerned (and happily replaced my FX-6300 @ 4.5 Ghz with an i5-4690k which wipes the floor with it).

 

[DrMrLordX]

Personally, I agree than the newer FX-8xxx series chips (notably the new FX-8300 and FX-8310) have made the FX-6300 look pretty awful depending on price flux. I'd almost even recommend an 860k over it. Almost.

In terms of current pricing, the FX-6300 is ~$100 right now, which is a poor price. It has been as cheap as $70-$80 in some circumstances. Prices on the 8300 and 8310 seem elevated now, as well. May as well grab the FX-8320E for $130.

Regardless, the FX-6300 was a cheap pseudo-gamer chip for AMD junkies for awhile. It also fit some questionable motherboards that just could not handle octocore chips before the 95W octocores hit the scene. It has lost much of its relevance.

 

[AtenRa]

Been hearing this "just wait until its optimized" kind of thing for four years. I've learned to never hold my breath where FX performance hopes are concerned (and happily replaced my FX-6300 @ 4.5 Ghz with an i5-4690k which wipes the floor with it).

Example, Thief with Mantle.

As you can see when OCed the FX6300 is faster than the Core i3 4330 and it is cheaper. But even without OC they FX can keep up with the Core i3 Haswell when Mantle is enabled and it will do very well in DX-12 games.

 

[escrow4]

All those graphs show is that if you want a gaming CPU that lasts buy a new i7 or hexa-core and forget about the CPU period. Anything below an i5 is a compromise.

 

[AtenRa]

All those graphs show is that if you want a gaming CPU that lasts buy a new i7 or hexa-core and forget about the CPU period. Anything below an i5 is a compromise.

Actually, what all those graphs show is that i will need a faster GPU even if i had a A10-7700K.
Heh, even Core 2 Quad would benefit with a faster GPU

 

[TheELF]

Yeah,benchmarks love to use all available cores making some people believe that it is representative of real gameplay,than you start this game that is supposed to run oh so well on your many core cpu and see this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KvLwBS3pEo
Thief gets all it's speed from one core,and that's the dx version.
DX12(mantle) will get rid of the driver thread which,for quads and up,runs on a separate core already so although dx12 will give the FX better max fps it will not help with min fps and that's gonna be a problem.

 

[AtenRa]

Yeah,benchmarks love to use all available cores making some people believe that it is representative of real gameplay,than you start this game that is supposed to run oh so well on your many core cpu and see this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KvLwBS3pEo
Thief gets all it's speed from one core,and that's the dx version.
DX12(mantle) will get rid of the driver thread which,for quads and up,runs on a separate core already so although dx12 will give the FX better max fps it will not help with min fps and that's gonna be a problem.

Did you bother to look at the graphs above ?? because even the FX6300 at default clocks has higher minimum than Core i3 4330 at high settings with Mantle. When the Image Quality is set to maximum the GPU is the limiting factor and not the CPUs.
It will take more than a 290X to actually need a faster CPU than a A10-7700K at 4.3GHz or an FX6300 OC to be CPU limited.
So new DX-12 games will be fine played at maximum Image Quality Settings at 1080p (60fps) with a good GPU and a cheap CPU.

 

[TheELF]

Did you bother to understand that a gpu benchmark always is gpu limited?

 

[AtenRa]

Did you bother to understand that a gpu benchmark always is gpu limited?

That is not what you said, you said the FX will have a problem with low minimu fps, something that is not true as the above graphs show.

Also, a GPU limited benchmark can be turned to be CPU limited when you increase the GPU performance. Thief may be GPU limited with the HD7950 @ 1GHz but it will be CPU limited with the A10-7700K when you use a TITAN-X or a future R9 390X.

Anyway, with DX-12 games the FX6300 even at default clocks will be perfectly fine for 1080p gaming if paired with an adequate GPU.

 

[ShintaiDK]

DX12 doesnt change game logic. That part will be as CPU intensive as always.

And using prescripted benchmark with essentially no CPU usage outside the rendering doesnt change that.

FX series is a hopeless buy today.

 

[Erenhardt]

DX12 doesnt change game logic. That part will be as CPU intensive as always.

And using prescripted benchmark with essentially no CPU usage outside the rendering doesnt change that.

FX series is a hopeless buy today.

SO you don't hope for more games like crysis3, BF4, GTA5, etc that use more than 4 threads?

 

[ShintaiDK]

SO you don't hope for more games like crysis3, BF4, GTA5, etc that use more than 4 threads?

How did you ever come to that conclusion?

But even so:

BF4:
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/battlefield-hardline-beta-2-test-gpu.html

And for GTA V:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2428163

 

[Erenhardt]

From the last sentence.
FX spread its wings when game logic is spread across all cores. Then it is hold only on the leash of DX11 rendering overhead. DX12 Should release the leash and fx should run full tilt across all cores without bottlenecking on a rendering thread.

Stating it is hopeless, is the same as sying dx12 will not deliver, or game engine developers will back-paddle and make their engines single-threaded again.

 

[ShintaiDK]

From the last sentence.
FX spread its wings when game logic is spread across all cores. Then it is hold only on the leash of DX11 rendering overhead. DX12 Should release the leash and fx should run full tilt across all cores without bottlenecking on a rendering thread.

Stating it is hopeless, is the same as sying dx12 will not deliver, or game engine developers will back-paddle and make their engines single-threaded again.

Hint of the day, game logic contains alot of serial code due to its nature.

Always some excuse in the future that will save the failed FX. Last time it was the consoles. 8 AMD cores and GCN would kill of nVidia and Intel.

 

[Erenhardt]

Hint of the day, game logic contains alot of serial code due to its nature.

Always some excuse in the future that will save the failed FX. Last time it was the consoles. 8 AMD cores and GCN would kill of nVidia and Intel.

Can't be bothered to post for the 54233'th time the graph showing relative performance of fx cpus compared to intel 2C/4T and 4C/4T showing the gap shrinking as time goes by... I have more important thing to do... like live a life... sorry.

Hint of the day: it is not 2011 anymore...

 

[Erenhardt]

Hint of the day: it is not 2011 anymore...

But even back then we had this:

6 core phenom II 20% faster than 4 core Phenom II.
20% fps increase for 50% more cores is quite impressive.
2011 game we are talking here.