AMD Framepacing Driver 13.8 review

[24601]

No, the graphs only show that minimum frametimes are limited, the graphs don't say ANYTHING about when these frames are rendered or when they are displayed. As soon as there is some actual evidence of this, I'm all ears. When you're just saying anecdotally "I can easily see the ~5ms delay in the frame being displayed" then it's just silly.

Guess that's the difference between getting called a hacker in a FPS and screaming at your computer that someone's a hacker because they couldn't possibly have noticed your camouflage flicker slightly in the distance.

Also, feigning ignorance is only cool to do when you're not wrong. Otherwise you are literally a tool, in the definitive sense (being used).

Infraction issued for personal attack.
-- stahlhart

 

[Leadbox]

Guess that's the difference between getting called a hacker in a FPS and screaming at your computer that someone's a hacker because they couldn't possibly have noticed your camouflage flicker slightly in the distance.

Also, feigning ignorance is only cool to do when you're not wrong. Otherwise you are literally a tool, in the definitive sense (being used).

Please tone it down a bit, don't want this thread locked now do we?

There have been some theories that AMD’s attempt to reign in stuttering would result in a noticeable increase in input lag, similar to what happens with V-Sync enabled. In our experience, that didn’t happen. When using a corded mouse, input lag wasn’t adversely affected, nor were there any secondary issues like artifacts or rendering errors.

 

[stahlhart]

What is it exactly about video card drivers that brings out so much hostility in so many of you? Please debate respectfully.
-- stahlhart

 

[Vesku]

So not as smooth as SLI but from reading the conclusions of multiple reviews it was good enough to not be noticeable visually to any of those reviewers.

Anyone read a review that mentioned remaining visually noticeable problems versus SLI?

Seems like the biggest outstanding issue is that the changes aren't yet applied to Eyefinity setups.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Or DX9 (probably 10) and OpenGL.

 

[x3sphere]

I tried it with Crysis 3 just now, and it's a clear improvement over just using Radeon Pro to limit frame rate. Almost felt as fluid as single card, given the same FPS, to me. Still room for improvement but it's a massive step forward.

 

[sushiwarrior]

Or DX9 (probably 10) and OpenGL.

DX10 most certainly and absolutely sees improvements, did you read any of the review links? Saw a few DX10 games with improvement

 

[Stuka87]

Or DX9 (probably 10) and OpenGL.

Its just DX9, OpenGL, and Eyefinity that are not yet supported.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

DX10 most certainly and absolutely sees improvements, did you read any of the review links? Saw a few DX10 games with improvement

I didn't see any DX10 games

Its just DX9, OpenGL, and Eyefinity that are not yet supported.

Ok, not like DX10 matters much in hindsight.

 

[Shakabutt]

Worth installing these on a single HD 7850 guys ?

 

[rainy]

Worth installing these on a single HD 7850 guys ?

Definitely not - they are for CF users (even not for all of them at this moment).

 

[hyrule4927]

Worth installing these on a single HD 7850 guys ?

I've seen some reports of single card improvements on OCN, but no actual data backing it up.

 

[adnank77]

I'm disappointed of not having eyefinity improvement

 

[Meekers]

If these drivers get AMD to the point where the user can not perceive microstutter does it matter that NVIDIA has less? Is there any perceived difference in improving it further?

Reviewers seem to be going nuts with FCAT and graphs. Assuming AMD finishes extending this to eyefinity/dx9 does FCAT become a simple pass/fail check on future benchmarks to make sure the problem is not coming back, or are we going to still see it as a major part of reviews?

 

[BigChickenJim]

Looks like a gigantic improvement. As long as I can't actually see the few remaining hiccups I'm a happy man. End-user experience has been, is, and will always be far more important than any series of graphs.

At least now I don't have to bother firing up RadeonPro when I game. Well done, AMD!

 

[Red Hawk]

I didn't see any DX10 games

DX10 is pretty similar to DX11, so it may be that the frame pacing applies to both.

Worth installing these on a single HD 7850 guys ?

Nah. This only applies to Crossfire setups; frame leveling for single GPU cards was supposedly fixed back in March.

 

[railven]

Of course it wouldn't be that easy...

Installed drivers and am now having my second card idle at 500/150.

Yes, there is only one monitor connected.

I don't even know where to start to figure this one out. My second non-used card is running hotter than my primary card.

Good job AMD! :thumbsup:

 

[BallaTheFeared]

My second card is zero cored out, working as intended for me!

Check your OC software. Main card at 300/150.

 

[railven]

My second card is zero cored out, working as intended for me!

Check your OC software. Main card at 300/150.

I'm not really OCing right now. I do got MSI AB running for monitoring...let's disable/turn it off.

 

[railven]

Yeah...something is wrong. I can't even disable CFX now.

Good times! Let's reinstall these bad boys.

 

[railven]

Haha, okay, so I removed drivers, made sure nothing is running outside of Steam.

Reinstalled drivers, now I can't enable CFX.

Haha. Balla did you use the leaked drivers or the official download from AMD.com?

EDIT: Rebooted PC. CFX is on now, can't disable it, and second core is idling at 500/150, first card is normal at 300/150.

Outside of a complete system reformat, no idea what is going on here.

Off to try the leaked drivers.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I used the leaked drivers :|

Is there a difference?

I'm overclocking my main card with my second shut off, playing some more casual games, also been downlocking it to 800MHz and undervolting it into the dirt.... No huge issues, though sometimes I get your problem and have the flip AB on and off for ULPS and unofficial OC mode, reboot reinstall, fun stuff that everyone enjoys. Also I have to tab out and move the powertune on the second card otherwise it throttles at stock (I can't adjust voltage on it).

AMD - Where concessions are made everyday

 

[railven]

I used the leaked drivers :|

Is there a difference?

Doesn't seem like it. I've uninstalled them, cleaned registry, rebooted, and the same issues happen on my end:

Install -> can't turn on CFX, reboot, CFX on but can't be turned off.

First card clocks - 300/150
Second card clocks - 500/150

Not sure what I'm doing wrong/different.

EDIT: Screw it, gonna try the other downloads 13.4 on their website.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Try uninstalling your OC software then reinstalling the driver over top of itself, reboot.

 

[railven]

I'll give that a shot next. I just installed 13.4 WHQL, all is fine. Second card is off.

Guess ill try removing OC software and give it another shot.

EDIT: Real quick while I remove 13.4, Balla do you remember if your screen did the usual "off/on/off/on" sequence when installing the 13.8s? Installing the 13.4s did the usual sequence but I noticed when I installed the 13.8s the screen never went off.