AMD E-350, equal to P4 3.2Ghz w/HT?

[VirtualLarry]

Or better?

Because that was my understanding, and that's what I told someone that has agreed to purchase my slightly-used E-350 rig. (With legit Windows 7 64-bit, 4GB DDR3, and a 50GB Vertex2 SSD. Also with a six-month warranty.)

I just wanted to double-check with you folks, just to make sure I wasn't accidentally misleading my client.

Edit: According to cpubenchmark.net , E-350 APU scores about double what Pentium 4 3.20Ghz scores.

 

[NTMBK]

Well, an old Atom can beat a 3.2GHz P4: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/atom-d510-pentium-4-nettop,2649-4.html And the E-350 is quite a bit faster than the Atom.

Not to mention, that SSD will make the thing much snappier than any old IDE drive.

 

[inf64]

Poor P4 3.2Ghz.. Even SMT helps it not .
We came a long way since then. Progress is a nice thing . Imagine Puma core next year in QC variant, even better than 2.5x of E350's performance, all within comparable power envelope.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Not to mention, that SSD will make the thing much snappier than any old IDE drive.

That is indeed my hope.

 

[SPBHM]

well, much older single core CPU (famous even when new for low IPC)... a Pentium D would be more interesting, or P4 vs E-240... still, performance per watt improved massively anyway.

but, I would be curious to test a P4+SSD combination for basic usage.

 

[Torn Mind]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/328?vs=92

Interesting results. It seems that the E-350 is on par with or worse than a single Prescott core(LGA 775, 2005 release) at 3.6 Ghz. A 3.2 Ghz Prescott might be an apt comparison.

Of course, the E-350 has the better perf/watt by a long shot.

 

[Cerb]

If it's going to be used as intended, with the IGP, it will feel much faster, on account of even the best P4 IGP (4-series GMA, which hardly got used for P4s, anyway) being total crap, in comparison. But, it won't run most loopy code as fast as a fast P4 (note that the Tom's article is full of 4-thread-capable benches). With 4GB, Windows 7, and an SSD, it should compare favorably to a nice P4 desktop with a low-end or midrange add-in card of the time period (like a serious business user might have, or HTPC DIY build would have, like maybe a 7600).

 

[VirtualLarry]

But, it won't run most loopy code as fast as a fast P4

I'm curious why you feel the P4 would perform faster on loop code. Isn't the P4's pipeline longer, and thus at a disadvantage for branches?

 

[jhu]

Or better?

Because that was my understanding, and that's what I told someone that has agreed to purchase my slightly-used E-350 rig. (With legit Windows 7 64-bit, 4GB DDR3, and a 50GB Vertex2 SSD. Also with a six-month warranty.)

I just wanted to double-check with you folks, just to make sure I wasn't accidentally misleading my client.

Edit: According to cpubenchmark.net , E-350 APU scores about double what Pentium 4 3.20Ghz scores.

Clock for clock, AMD E series is about 2x faster than P4.

 

[Centauri]

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[Cerb]

I'm curious why you feel the P4 would perform faster on loop code. Isn't the P4's pipeline longer, and thus at a disadvantage for branches?

1. Clock speed.
2. Benchmarks showing just that, most of the time.
3. Using them (still have a few late-model P4s at work to retire, even).

Per-clock, Bobcat is generally superior, but it's stuck at 1.6GHz. If it's 2x as good at something per clock, that only makes it equal with real-world speeds. Given the P4's weaknesses, it's not always better, either:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4134/the-brazos-review-amds-e350-supplants-ion-for-miniitx/8

But, a P4 would need to be a 800MHz Northwood or Prescott w/ HT, on a chipset with 3Gbps SATA, and a decent Geforce or Radeon (lowest-tier 128-bit memory bus models for the times), before the P4 would be an overall better machine, even not counting the electricity and noise. IoW, if electricity and noise weren't factors, I'd take a P4 EE (Xeon type) or >3.2GHz Prescott or later gaming box from back in the day, after a RAM upgrade, over an E-350. Your average <$100 mainstream P4 desktop, though, no; I'd take an E-350 over those categorically, even if it is possible to show the P4 is faster in many applications. The user experience with Windows 7, 4GB RAM, Radeon video drivers (Ivy and Haswell are OK, but S775-era Intel IGP drivers all sucked), hardware decoding, and a SATA controller that can really take advantage of SSDs, is going to be far better.