AMD Duron 1GHz A Bad Name. Agreed All?

[kc]

Hello All,
I first heard of Duron 1GHz a few days ago and I thought it is insane to price it at $93. (Only slightly higher than Athlon 1.4GHz)

However, after reading the review, I think it is a great little processor. Especially the performance is better than the Athlon. However, somehow I feel that Duron 1GHz deserve another name as it should not be group together with those cheap lower hertz Duron processors. When I first heard of Duron, first thing comes to my mind is CHEAP! When I saw the price, I go "wow why so expensive?!" Only after reading the review, I understand why.

However, for average consumer, I don't think they will understand why Duron 1GHz is more expensive.

Perhap change the name to Athlon 128k? or Duron 4?

Everyone agreed?

kc

 

[The_Lurker]

The Duron 1ghz is based on the Morgan core right? so it's the lower end for the Palamino's, not the current T-birds, where the lower end is the Spitfire cores. At least that's my undersatnding.

 

[Rand]

Disagreed. The Athlon is transferring to the Palomino core just as the Duron is transferring to the Morgan core. The Morgan is nothing but a cut down Palomino, just as the Spitfire core was a cut down Thunderbird.

IMHO keeping the Duron name makes perfect sense. besides that, they've already done well in bulding up brand recognition for the Duron name.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

The Athlon name stuck from 500 to 1400. The P3 name went unchanged from 450 to 1GHz. Pentium from 66 to 200.

...and I'm not including when they add suffixes.

 

[Rankor]

It's called market differentiation.

You have a valid point. Someone in purchasing for an OEM is going to think the same thing.

But it's OEM corporate that has the final say. Budget rigs sell, so what's the brand name that (corporate) associate with Budget Systems? Celeron for Intel and Duron for Amd.

I thought Celeron was a cheesy name when it (first) came out. When I first bought my iC-300A made in Malaysia with the clover, I knew I had one that would oc to 450. At that time, Intel's budget procs performed similar to their P2/P3 Katmai counterparts clock-for-clock.

Since then, Intel and Amd have learned from those snaffus by limiting the performance delta between Budget and Flagship procs.

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<< At that time, Intel's budget procs performed similar to their P2/P3 Katmai counterparts clock-for-clock. >>



Of course, when the 66 Mhz Celerons where oc'd to 100 Mhz FSB.

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[kc]

Disagreed. The Athlon is transferring to the Palomino core just as the Duron is transferring to the Morgan core. The Morgan is nothing but a cut down Palomino, just as the Spitfire core was a cut down Thunderbird.

Athlon with Palomino core at least gets the name of Athlon 4 or Athlon MP

Duron 1GHz?! Nada not Duron 4 or Duron MP yet it price just a few dollar more than Athlon.

Consider that every motherboard support Duron can support Athlon, why would people buy Duron which is only a few bucks more? I guess the AMD marketing need a lot more work.

kc

 

[Swanny]

<< Nada not Duron 4 or Duron MP yet it price just a few dollar more than Athlon. >>



Well, Duron MP would be pretty stupid since AMD doesn't want Durons in dual CPU systems. Duron 4 might make sense, but AMD is following Intel, I think. Through all its core changes the Celeron has remained the Celeron, and I think that's what the Duron will do.

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm having trouble with this whole concept, paying more for a 1gig Duron than for a 1gig Athlon that has better performance. Unless the heat output from the new Duron is a lot less than its athlon cousin, in which case much quieter fans could be used. That really wasn't addressed in the review, anyway, so what's the point? Should I be happy to pay more for less, just because it's new?

 

[McCarthy]

"Honey, does our mutterboard work with Duron 4's? I know it says it works with Duron, but will it work with this?"
"No, remember what happened when you tried to put that Pentium II in your Pentium computer!"
"Oh, right. Guess I'll just go to Best Buy and get a whole new system"

Why do that? Leave confusing the customer to video card makers. They have a known product which motherboard manuals the world round say works, let the casual user take a break and buy their "Duron 1GHz". Cores are transitioning right now, it'll all fall into place again soon enough.

Best part is you really can't screw up, whatever someone gets is going to be exceptional price/performance.

 

[chemhaqr]

Unless the heat output from the new Duron is a lot less than its athlon cousin, in which case much quieter fans could be used.

Actually the new durons will run as hot as the athlons of old. They run on 1.75v default. ABout time they move to .13u and get rid of the fans!