AMD driver overscan problem! Solved, it's my HDTV monitor.

mxnerd

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I have been an AMD user for many years, since it cost less to build.

However, I'm getting tired of AMD. It never had a stable driver version without problem.

I got one AMD laptop with HD2600, one motherboard with integrated HD3200 & another with HD4200. Probably there is no single version from v10 to current v11.9 without issues.

Today I tried to hook up a 28" Hanspree HDTV monitor using HDMI, none of 3 machines can work with the Hanspree HDMI input, no mater how I change configuration/resolution. Though all 3 machine detected a 1920x1200 monitor, none of them can display properly. All 4 sides are display outside of screen, even if I lower the resolution from 1920x1200 all the way down to 800x600, all sides are still being push over the screen.

I finnaly decided to give nVidia 8400 PCIE card a try, and yes, it works the first time! How simple is that?

Will never buy an AMD graphics card or integrated motherboard solution again.
 
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WaTaGuMp

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I have zero issues with the 11.9 I am using now, no issues with the 11.5b I had until yesterday.
 

badb0y

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I had a similar issue with my 9600M GT back in the day. Are all those laptop parts? Sometimes laptop parts act funky.
 

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the problem with amd drivers and oem laptops are the drivers are usually oem specific due to power saving and/or secondary igp issues.

the sad part is the oem's usually dont update the drivers very often so if you have an amd igp its likely you may have to stay with the driver version that came with the system.
 

Zorander

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There should be an 'Overscan' function in Catalyst Control Center that allows you to fine-tune the display-size on your TV.
 

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the problem with amd drivers and oem laptops are the drivers are usually oem specific due to power saving and/or secondary igp issues.

the sad part is the oem's usually dont update the drivers very often so if you have an amd igp its likely you may have to stay with the driver version that came with the system.
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I don't mean for this to be personal, but sometimes the product is fine. It's often the user who needs repair. Are you sure you have all your settings correct? Your HDMI port may use a non-amd chip and require a 3rd party driver.
 
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mxnerd

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Are you sure you have all your settings correct?

100%. All AMD machines work fine through VGA port. But Not HDMI/DVI. I even tried to use a DVI to HDMI adapter from DVI port with HD3200 & HD4200 motherboard (all Gigabyte), no go.
 
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mxnerd

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the problem with amd drivers and oem laptops are the drivers are usually oem specific due to power saving and/or secondary igp issues.

the sad part is the oem's usually dont update the drivers very often so if you have an amd igp its likely you may have to stay with the driver version that came with the system.

You are probably right. Maybe I can only use the driver that comes with the original CD.
 
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Mistwalker

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There should be an 'Overscan' function in Catalyst Control Center that allows you to fine-tune the display-size on your TV.
This is almost definitely your problem. For some reason AMD defaults to 15% overscan, which pushes the viewable edges out when connected to some TVs.

Annoying, but easily researched and fixed.
 

mxnerd

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This is almost definitely your problem. For some reason AMD defaults to 15% overscan, which pushes the viewable edges out when connected to some TVs.

Annoying, but easily researched and fixed.

Thanks. Bed time. Will test tomorrow.
 
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Fallengod

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It would be nice if some day AMD got a clue and added specific resolution force refresh rate, you know, a feature nvidia has had for 8 years....
 

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I have been an AMD user for many years, since it cost less to build.

However, I'm getting tired of AMD. It never had a stable driver version without problem.

I got one AMD laptop with HD2600, one motherboard with integrated HD3200 & another with HD4200. Probably there is no single version from v10 to current v11.9 without issues.

Today I tried to hook up a 28" Hanspree HDTV monitor using HDMI, none of 3 machines can work with the Hanspree HDMI input, no mater how I change configuration/resolution. Though all 3 machine detected a 1920x1200 monitor, none of them can display properly. All 4 sides are display outside of screen, even if I lower the resolution from 1920x1200 all the way down to 800x600, all sides are still being push over the screen.

I finnaly decided to give nVidia 8400 PCIE card a try, and yes, it works the first time! How simple is that?

Will never buy an AMD graphics card or integrated motherboard solution again.

Thats strange. Since I dont have cable (Just netflix and hulu) I hook my laptop up to my 50inch plasma to watch some college football through espn 360 and it works just fine. Only thing I do is tell it to only display on the TV that way my laptop screen turns off. My laptop has an ATI 6570M by the way.
 

mxnerd

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Actually tried overscan setting before bedtime. Same thing, no dice.
 
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jacktesterson

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I've never had this issue in any ati cards in my HTPC. weird. Im between cards in my system right now...using the 4250.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II via Tapatalk
 

MentalIlness

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11.9 drivers here no problems. Just went from 11.8. No problems on those either. I cannot comment on mobile drivers, since I dont use them. But I still believe, "most" PC problems "usually" come from user error and "no...know how"
 

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Today I tried to hook up a 28" Hanspree HDTV monitor using HDMI, none of 3 machines can work with the Hanspree HDMI input, no mater how I change configuration/resolution. Though all 3 machine detected a 1920x1200 monitor, none of them can display properly. All 4 sides are display outside of screen, even if I lower the resolution from 1920x1200 all the way down to 800x600, all sides are still being push over the screen.
That sounds like your TV is the problem.

A friend of mine has a 3450 and a 32" 1080P TV, and had overscan problems over HDMI that he had to correct by lowering the resolution slightly, for every Cat version.

Well, I came across some mention of a setting on the TV for 1:1 mapping, and once he changed that setting on the TV, he had no more issues.

So look at your advanced TV settings, see if you can disable overscan over the HDMI input.
 

brandonb

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I have been an AMD user for many years, since it cost less to build.

However, I'm getting tired of AMD. It never had a stable driver version without problem.

Will never buy an AMD graphics card or integrated motherboard solution again.

As someone who has both ATI and Hanspree, I can guarantee you the problem is the Hanspree, not the ATI.

The issue is that the Hansprees comes shipped by default in HDTV mode, not PC mode. Which means the ATI is going to pick it up as a TV and will act accordingly. The second issue is that the Hanspree cannot be changed over into PC mode unless you are connecting the damn thing to a specific type of device, such as a DVD or Blu ray Player. There is a bug in their bios which prevents you from changing modes in the menu (or even seeing the option).

The first thing you need to do is find someone with like a Play Station 3 and hook the HDMI from the PS3 to the Hanspree so you can change the mode to PC mode.

If you do not do this, you will have trouble, and if you haven't figured it out yet, the Hanspree will not go into standby mode if its in HDTV mode.
 

Googer

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100%. All AMD machines work fine through VGA port. But Not HDMI/DVI. I even tried to use a DVI to HDMI adapter from DVI port with HD3200 & HD4200 motherboard (all Gigabyte), no go.

By settings, I don't mean where you plug it in. I meant the driver and display settings maybe incorrect. Try running a 2nd monitor to configure your HDMI port.
 

happy medium

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I installed the 10.10 drivers for my kids system ,comming from 10.6's to do some BF3 testing and now I'm having crashing and distorted desktop problem while using a TV as a video monitor.

I also had to completly unistall the old drivers to get the new 10.10's to install.
The new drivers are also not detecting the TV resolution correctly, I have to do it manually.

The 10.6's worked great and I would have just left them installed but to play BF3 it said you need at least 10.7's.

I dont miss these problems , one of the reasons I went with a gtx460 and Nvidia drivers.

I told my kid just wait a bit till the official drivers come out and hopefully they will fix it.
 

mxnerd

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As someone who has both ATI and Hanspree, I can guarantee you the problem is the Hanspree, not the ATI.

The issue is that the Hansprees comes shipped by default in HDTV mode, not PC mode.

You the man! You saved my day. The Hannspree TV monitor ST289MUB has a Screen Mode setting: Auto, TV or PC. It's set to Auto. Well, Auto apparently does not work.

After I changed the setting to PC, it works beautifully. And the sun seems sunnier. :)

Thanks everyone.
 
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WaTaGuMp

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You the man! You saved my day. The Hannspree TV monitor has a Screen mode setting: Auto, TV or PC. It's set to Auto. Well, Auto apparently does not work.

After I changed the setting to PC, it works beautifully. And the sun seems sunnier. :)

Thanks everyone.

So, how about those AMD/ATI drivers now?
 

Lonyo

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I was going to say, my Hanspree worked fine both with Intel onboard (which worked 100% correctly right out the box) and with my HD6450 (had to adjust overscan).
I did of course set it to PC mode first though, so I never noticed any problems.
 

mxnerd

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So, how about those AMD/ATI drivers now?

Well, this event does not mean AMD/ATI has no issue.

There are several versions of ATI/AMD drivers that always corrupt screen window repainting

For recent versions from v 11.6-v11.9, only v11.6 & v11.9 does not have repaint issue, at least for my machines. v11.7 & v11.8 can't repaint windows properly, they are constantly corrupted.
 
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Binky

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There should be an 'Overscan' function in Catalyst Control Center that allows you to fine-tune the display-size on your TV.
This functionality has been in the ATI drivers for a very long time...