Discussion AMD Cezanne/Zen 3 APU Speculation and Discussion

[jpiniero]

That's pretty gross, static 3 GHz as well. If nothing else it should be significantly below the 15W TDP in real usage.

It's like Intel with their Celerons... except AMD wants to charge Ryzen 3 prices for it. You do get 3 Ghz at least. The lack of boost is probably deliberate in catching chips that can't clock high too.

It's tough to think they are getting that many chips that need to be cut this far down though.

 

[Shivansps]

Here a 5700G on a Asus Pro A320M-R WI-FI

It was suprising because this board went from Ryzen 1000-3000 support to full AM4 w/Cezanne. They never released those Renoir bios for this one.

This is also the worst AM4 board that exists, it is probably the only AM4 board whiout M2 slot, and the only one that i know that has no memory timing controls and memory clock is limited to 2933 no matter what.

 

[burninatortech4]

Here a 5700G on a Asus Pro A320M-R WI-FI

It was suprising because this board went from Ryzen 1000-3000 support to full AM4 w/Cezanne. They never released those Renoir bios for this one.

This is also the worst AM4 board that exists, it is probably the only AM4 board whiout M2 slot, and the only one that i know that has no memory timing controls and memory clock is limited to 2933 no matter what.

Respectable score for 2933. I'm probably throwing a R5 5500 in my A320M HDV R4.0. Fortunately I'm able to get 3200mhz CL14 on this board.

 

[SteinFG]

R7 5700 non-G non-X spotted in the wild on ibuypower pre-build pc website


Costs 16$ less than 5700X, with this high pricing it doesn't seem like it's gonna be sold for DIY people.
The only reason for this CPU to exist is it's the cheapest "ryzen 7" for AMD to make, since It's monolithic "Cezanne" die.

 

[SteinFG]

Funny how this is the only time when adding the X letter actually gives a meaningful difference, as 5700 -> 5700X doubles L3 cache

 

[blckgrffn]

R7 5700 non-G non-X spotted in the wild on ibuypower pre-build pc website
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Costs 16$ less than 5700X, with this high pricing it doesn't seem like it's gonna be sold for DIY people.
The only reason for this CPU to exist is it's the cheapest "ryzen 7" for AMD to make, since It's monolithic "Cezanne" die.

That looks a little bonkers - 8 cores and 12 Threads?

I assume you lose PCIe4 as well, naturally.

 

[jpiniero]

That looks a little bonkers - 8 cores and 12 Threads?

Typo probably.

 

[Asterox]

R7 5700 non-G non-X spotted in the wild on ibuypower pre-build pc website
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Costs 16$ less than 5700X, with this high pricing it doesn't seem like it's gonna be sold for DIY people.
The only reason for this CPU to exist is it's the cheapest "ryzen 7" for AMD to make, since It's monolithic "Cezanne" die.

If you Google, that processor does not exist on the AMD website.

AMD Ryzen 7 5700 - Google Search

Rumors about that model are quite thin.If it doesn't exist on the AMD site, there is some good or bad reason for that.

For example, if you Google you can find all this on AMD website.

- R5 5600

- R5 5500

- R5 4500

- R5 4600G

- R5 4650G

- R5 3500X(China only), but it the past it was available at my local retailer in Croatia

This model also doesn't exist on the AMD website.But hey, you can buy it today or right now here in Croatia.

- R5 3500

0001190640 - CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3500 tray 100-000000050 | Futura IT - Gaming PC Store

Ryzen 5 3500 tray, AM4, 3600 MHz, L3 cache 16MB, 7nm, TDP 65W, Hladnjak NE, Memory channel 2 <b>Osnovne karakteristike:</b> Socket: AM4 Radni takt [MHz]: 3600 L3 cache: 16 Jezgra: Zen 2 TDP: 65 <b>Ostale karakteristike:</b> Hladnjak: n/a Integrirani grafički sustav: N Memory channel: 2...

www.futura-it.hr

 

[SteinFG]

If you Google, that processor does not exist on the AMD website.

AMD Ryzen 7 5700 - Google Search

Rumors about that model are quite thin.If it doesn't exist on the AMD site, there is some good or bad reason for that.

For example, if you Google you can find all this on AMD website.

- R5 5600

- R5 5500

- R5 4500

- R5 4600G

- R5 4650G

- R5 3500X(China only), but it the past it was available at my local retailer in Croatia

This model also doesn't exist on the AMD website.But hey, you can buy it today or right now here in Croatia.

- R5 3500

0001190640 - CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3500 tray 100-000000050 | Futura IT - Gaming PC Store

Ryzen 5 3500 tray, AM4, 3600 MHz, L3 cache 16MB, 7nm, TDP 65W, Hladnjak NE, Memory channel 2 <b>Osnovne karakteristike:</b> Socket: AM4 Radni takt [MHz]: 3600 L3 cache: 16 Jezgra: Zen 2 TDP: 65 <b>Ostale karakteristike:</b> Hladnjak: n/a Integrirani grafički sustav: N Memory channel: 2...

www.futura-it.hr

4150GE doesn't exist on the amd website too, yet hp sells it in their mini PCs.

Same with 2100GE

Same with embedded ones like 5900E and 5950E that showed up in the recent Videocardz article.

Seems like as long as long as there's (my guess) just one OEM partner, they doesn't list specs on the website.

edit: found one more cpu missing from amd site - r7 6860Z

 

[Insert_Nickname]

This model also doesn't exist on the AMD website.But hey, you can buy it today or right now here in Croatia.

- R5 3500

0001190640 - CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3500 tray 100-000000050 | Futura IT - Gaming PC Store

Ryzen 5 3500 tray, AM4, 3600 MHz, L3 cache 16MB, 7nm, TDP 65W, Hladnjak NE, Memory channel 2 <b>Osnovne karakteristike:</b> Socket: AM4 Radni takt [MHz]: 3600 L3 cache: 16 Jezgra: Zen 2 TDP: 65 <b>Ostale karakteristike:</b> Hladnjak: n/a Integrirani grafički sustav: N Memory channel: 2...

www.futura-it.hr

I've seen the X variant briefly on sale here in Denmark. Was gone pretty quick, and never came back in stock. Never seen a non-X 3500 though.

While we're comparing strange variants, I'll raise you a 3600A:

https://www.proshop.dk/CPU/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600A-CPU-6-kerner-36-GHz-AMD-AM4-AMD-Boxed-WOF-uden-koeler/3095323

Appears to be a bog standard non-X 3600, but without cooler. Actually seems a very decent budget deal, since it's cheaper then a 4500.

 

[LightningZ71]

There's a pro rembrandt that Lenovo has that's got an odd iGPU WGP arrangement as well.

 

[Asterox]

Hm we will see, maybe these 5000 series CPU will sit in the AM4 socket.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1556577010285256704

 

[jpiniero]

Details for Computer/Device ASRock 4X4-7000 Series/D4

ranker.sisoftware.co.uk

7530U spotted.

 

[Kaluan]

What do you guys make of this?

Looks a lot like Desktop Barcelo (Cezanne Refresh). So a slightly faster 5700G (same base, 4,6GHz -> 4,8GHz boost, no data on iGPU clocks). So either AMD's 2023+ mobile nomenclature also comes to desktop APUs, or another fake.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585569186348146689

 

[SteinFG]

What do you guys make of this?

Looks a lot like Desktop Barcelo (Cezanne Refresh). So a slightly faster 5700G (same base, 4,6GHz -> 4,8GHz boost, no data on iGPU clocks). So either AMD's 2023+ mobile nomenclature also comes to desktop APUs, or another fake.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585569186348146689

Article - Why you can’t trust CPUID - article by Chips and Cheese

https://chipsandcheese.com/2022/10/27/why-you-cant-trust-cpuid/ Recent leaks about 7300X 4-core , 7800X 10-core, and 7725HS zen2 mobile cpu were faked by modifying CPU names.

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[jpiniero]

ASUS Zenbook 14 confirmed to feature AMD Ryzen 7 7730U with "Zen3" cores - VideoCardz.com

ASUS first to list laptop with AMD Ryzen 7000 series It looks like AMD Ryzen 7000 laptops are just around the corner. ASUS Turkey now confirms their Zenbook 14 will feature Ryzen 7000 processor with integrated graphics. The company is not confirming the specs of this processor specifically...

videocardz.com

Asus Turkey seemingly confirms the 7730U.

 

[Kaluan]

ASUS Zenbook 14 confirmed to feature AMD Ryzen 7 7730U with "Zen3" cores - VideoCardz.com

ASUS first to list laptop with AMD Ryzen 7000 series It looks like AMD Ryzen 7000 laptops are just around the corner. ASUS Turkey now confirms their Zenbook 14 will feature Ryzen 7000 processor with integrated graphics. The company is not confirming the specs of this processor specifically...

videocardz.com

Asus Turkey seemingly confirms the 7730U.

Which simultaneously confirms this is fake (IMHO):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585585251086221313

5700U is Renoir-based, so not xx30 and having 2 Zen3 U-class 8 core SKUs doesn't make sense.

This chip is likely a 5825U (Barcelo) rebrand or slight refresh.

There's a reason the above linked 6 core is 7530U and not 7630U too. 7000 refreshes/rebrands seem to move down 1 tier.