AMD Catalyst 11.4c hotfix posted

Termie

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Looks like it addresses a very specific subset of cards:

Resolves intermittent flickering issues seen in the following applications in a system using an AMD Radeon™ HD 6600 series graphics card with DDR3 memory and running in DirectX® 9 mode:
•Civilization 5
•Dead Rising 2
•Fallout 3
•Mafia 2
•NBA 2010
•ShenGuiChuanQi
•Starcraft 2
•Warcraft III
•World of Warcraft
 

SickBeast

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Wow. Another hotfix. It looks as though AMD uses the early adopters of their driver releases as beta testers. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
 

hdfxst

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All these hotfix's have been for specific cards,i believe the a and b hotfix was for the 6790 and the c is for 6600 series
 

formulav8

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At least they try and fix the problems people report? Many company's release beta drivers and specific fixes. I'm not sure what is wrong with that?
 

Elixer

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Wow. Another hotfix. It looks as though AMD uses the early adopters of their driver releases as beta testers. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

Better to have a 'hotfix' than to wait another month for their regular release cycle.
True, they should have spotted the issue before, but, they didn't for whatever reason.
 

brybir

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This is why I just wait for windows update to push the driver updates to me. I may be several months behind the release curve, but by then the bugs are worked out (usually)
 

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I have yet to see nVidia release a "hotfix". Their drivers just work.

This is bull.

They have many, many non WHQL drivers.

These drivers serve as betas and can fix specific issues.

I'd like to remind you that at launch Nvidia's drivers were the biggest single cause of crashes under windows vista.
 

SickBeast

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This is bull.

They have many, many non WHQL drivers.

These drivers serve as betas and can fix specific issues.

I'd like to remind you that at launch Nvidia's drivers were the biggest single cause of crashes under windows vista.
At least they're giving their users the option to use solid and well tested drivers. AMD seems to be using people as guinea pigs without their knowledge or consent.

I have always only run the nVidia WHQL drivers. The only time I've ever had a problem was when Windows Vista first came out and I was using my 8800GTS.

Since I've had my GTX 460 I haven't had a single driver related issue or crash. IMO nVidia has regained their lead in terms of driver quality.
 

brybir

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At least they're giving their users the option to use solid and well tested drivers. AMD seems to be using people as guinea pigs without their knowledge or consent.

I have always only run the nVidia WHQL drivers. The only time I've ever had a problem was when Windows Vista first came out and I was using my 8800GTS.

Since I've had my GTX 460 I haven't had a single driver related issue or crash. IMO nVidia has regained their lead in terms of driver quality.

I have had no problems with my 4850 as far as I know since I have owned it. Not that it matters, but I think the answer to that question is answered somewhere in Microsoft's reporting statistics, but as far as I can tell, they do not publish that information right now?
 

Mopetar

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Wow. Another hotfix. It looks as though AMD uses the early adopters of their driver releases as beta testers. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

Seems more the norm now days. Some people would say Honeycomb is just a giant beta, but there are still plenty of people who want an Android tablet. As long as people know what they're getting, I don't have a problem with a company releasing "beta" software. No one is forcing you or anyone else to download these drivers.
 

Mem

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At least they're giving their users the option to use solid and well tested drivers. AMD seems to be using people as guinea pigs without their knowledge or consent.

I have always only run the nVidia WHQL drivers. The only time I've ever had a problem was when Windows Vista first came out and I was using my 8800GTS.

Since I've had my GTX 460 I haven't had a single driver related issue or crash. IMO nVidia has regained their lead in terms of driver quality.

Statements like these are really pointless,I could tell you I never had any issues with ATI/AMD drivers or point you to other forums where there are people with Nvidia driver issues and vice versa,end of the day I use both AMD/Nvidia drivers on my PCs and can say they are more or less equal in my REAL gaming world .

For the record its always nice to see companies bringing out fixes etc regardless of the hardware in question,always nice to have good company support,remember even Nvidia have had their issues which some people blindly refuse to admit.

End of the day its a hotfix for the 6600 models so not a big deal.
 

Skurge

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At least they're giving their users the option to use solid and well tested drivers. AMD seems to be using people as guinea pigs without their knowledge or consent.

I have always only run the nVidia WHQL drivers. The only time I've ever had a problem was when Windows Vista first came out and I was using my 8800GTS.

Since I've had my GTX 460 I haven't had a single driver related issue or crash. IMO nVidia has regained their lead in terms of driver quality.

Now your being silly. AMD's WHQL drivers work fine. You say that as if Nvidia don't have betas. When the 480/470 came out, they needed a beta to run, same with the 460 (which had terrible drivers to start with) same with the 450 and every other nvidia card afterwards. Just cause its called a hotfix doesn't meant the WHQL drivers are broken. Don't get confused by the name. These are betas, just like nvidia betas. Like the ones they currently have on their site. So please stop with this nonsense.

I wouldn't consider them leaders in driver quality when they keep releasing drivers that kill cards or put them at risk. The only reason these drivers are out is cause the 11.4 WHQL driver doesn't have support for the 6600 series, not cause there is something wrong with the 11.4 driver.
 

SickBeast

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Now your being silly. AMD's WHQL drivers work fine. You say that as if Nvidia don't have betas. When the 480/470 came out, they needed a beta to run, same with the 460 (which had terrible drivers to start with) same with the 450 and every other nvidia card afterwards. Just cause its called a hotfix doesn't meant the WHQL drivers are broken. Don't get confused by the name. These are betas, just like nvidia betas. Like the ones they currently have on their site. So please stop with this nonsense.

I wouldn't consider them leaders in driver quality when they keep releasing drivers that kill cards or put them at risk. The only reason these drivers are out is cause the 11.4 WHQL driver doesn't have support for the 6600 series, not cause there is something wrong with the 11.4 driver.
Hey, I'm allowed to prefer the way in which nVidia releases their drivers. I would rather only have to update every few months, personally. If I needed a new SLI profile or something I might run the betas.

AMD's system of updating the drivers monthly and then releasing hotfixes is a huge annoyance IMO.

You're right in saying that nVidia has problems also.

I can see your logic in saying that the drivers are of equal quality. My concern is more related to their release schedule and such.
 

NoQuarter

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Hey, I'm allowed to prefer the way in which nVidia releases their drivers. I would rather only have to update every few months, personally. If I needed a new SLI profile or something I might run the betas.

You still can upgrade every few months.. just because a driver comes out doesn't mean you have to get it. If you prefer to have a lot of fixes and enhancements in one go just wait 3 months between updates and it's like rolling nVidia. If you prefer to get every small fix immediately then update every month and maybe even grab the hotfixes..
 

Skurge

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Hey, I'm allowed to prefer the way in which nVidia releases their drivers. I would rather only have to update every few months, personally. If I needed a new SLI profile or something I might run the betas.

AMD's system of updating the drivers monthly and then releasing hotfixes is a huge annoyance IMO.

You're right in saying that nVidia has problems also.

I can see your logic in saying that the drivers are of equal quality. My concern is more related to their release schedule and such.

Well, pretty sure some people here are still running older AMD drivers, some probably still on drivers from last year. They might be 6 new drivers, but that doesnt mean you have to upgrade them. If you wanted a crossfire profile, you can just download the CAP, not the whole driver. So im not sure what would really annoy you. I can understand why you would them to take their time with drivers and not release new ones every month, but when there is a serious issue, both AMD and nvidia are really quick to release betas to resolve the issue. Like AA on SC2 or the DA2 performance issues.

So I don't really see much difference in the way they release drivers TBH. AMD might have more betas, but most of them aren't really necessary and you don't have to install them, but the choice is there and that can't be a bad thing.
 

Mem

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Hey, I'm allowed to prefer the way in which nVidia releases their drivers. I would rather only have to update every few months, personally. If I needed a new SLI profile or something I might run the betas.

AMD's system of updating the drivers monthly and then releasing hotfixes is a huge annoyance IMO.

You're right in saying that nVidia has problems also.

I can see your logic in saying that the drivers are of equal quality. My concern is more related to their release schedule and such.



I actually prefer a monthly update,ATi wise I always update every month and have done so for many years without issues,you don't have long to wait for your next official driver,with Nvidia you have a long wait so have to rely on beta builds if you want to use a newer driver.

I'm one of those people that updates because I like to have the latest driver,I don't really need too since I don't get any issues buts its nice to have that choice every month,you know when the next driver is coming, however with Nvidia its well your guess is as good as mine .

Having said all that its really a personal preference thing.
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Muyoso

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I gotta say, the drivers are not the same quality between AMD/ATI and Nvidia. There are persistent issues that AMD/ATI refuse to fix in their drivers which never occur with Nvidia. Anyone with an AMD/ATI card open up Event Viewer in Windows 7 after playing a game or watching a movie. Tens of THOUSANDS, if not hundreds of thousands of events logged from AMD/ATI, all useless and giving zero information. Thats just one bug that pisses me off currently and has been known to affect AMD/ATI cards for YEARS. I have had to disable all logging of errors from ATI because I don't like the idea of my SSD being spammed with useless events which is has to write.
 

Skurge

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I gotta say, the drivers are not the same quality between AMD/ATI and Nvidia. There are persistent issues that AMD/ATI refuse to fix in their drivers which never occur with Nvidia. Anyone with an AMD/ATI card open up Event Viewer in Windows 7 after playing a game or watching a movie. Tens of THOUSANDS, if not hundreds of thousands of events logged from AMD/ATI, all useless and giving zero information. Thats just one bug that pisses me off currently and has been known to affect AMD/ATI cards for YEARS. I have had to disable all logging of errors from ATI because I don't like the idea of my SSD being spammed with useless events which is has to write.

I'll have a look in the morning on my 5770 rig.
 

NoQuarter

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I gotta say, the drivers are not the same quality between AMD/ATI and Nvidia. There are persistent issues that AMD/ATI refuse to fix in their drivers which never occur with Nvidia. Anyone with an AMD/ATI card open up Event Viewer in Windows 7 after playing a game or watching a movie. Tens of THOUSANDS, if not hundreds of thousands of events logged from AMD/ATI, all useless and giving zero information. Thats just one bug that pisses me off currently and has been known to affect AMD/ATI cards for YEARS. I have had to disable all logging of errors from ATI because I don't like the idea of my SSD being spammed with useless events which is has to write.

I'd noticed that before, apparently the event spam is some sort of HDCP compliancy check.

If you use regedit and go set this key to 0 it disables the event message:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Atierecord\eRecordEnable
 

Muyoso

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I'd noticed that before, apparently the event spam is some sort of HDCP compliancy check.

If you use regedit and go set this key to 0 it disables the event message:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Atierecord\eRecordEnable

Yea, you have to do more than just CurrentControlSet though. You need to go into

CurrentControlSet
ControlSet001
ControlSet002
ControlSet*** etc etc etc and disable the same "eRecordEnable"
 

StrangerGuy

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AMD/ATI drivers never caused any problems. Same for Nvidia except they took their own 6 months sweet time to make their drivers officially support my GT420M laptop.
 

Dark Shroud

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Same for Nvidia except the two different times they released drivers that burned their cards out.

I don't think I'm being harsh here. There was also the delay in getting updated drivers out for the GTX 460 to fix the various problems those setups had.