AMD Beema/Mullins Launch Thread

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/7974/...hitecture-a10-micro-6700t-performance-preview
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Proces...a-and-Mullins-Greater-Expected-Refresh-Kabini
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Beema-and-Mullins-Mainstream-and-LowPower-2014-APUs-Tested/
http://techreport.com/review/26377/a-first-look-at-amd-mullins-mobile-apu
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-tablet-processor,3813.html

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I guess we could say that AMD has been rather busy lately. It seems that a significant amount of the content on PC Perspective this month revolved around the AMD AM1 platform. Before that we had the Kaveri products and the R7 265. AMD also reported some fairly solid growth over the past year with their graphics and APU lines. Things are not as grim and dire as they once were for the company. This is good news for consumers as they will continue to be offered competing solutions that will vie for that hard earned dollar.
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They forgot Adelaar, 295X2, W9100, HSA Linux kernel drivers, and a few more. :)

AMD is continuing their releases for 2014 with the announcement of their latest low-power and mainstream mobile APUs. These are codenamed “Beema” and “Mullins”, but they are based on the year old Kabini chip. This may cause a few people to roll their eyes as AMD has had some fairly unimpressive refreshes in the past. We saw the rather meager increases in clockspeed and power consumption with Brazos 2.0 a couple of years back, and it looked like this would be the case again for Beema and Mullins.

It isn’t.

I was again expecting said meager improvements in power consumption and clockspeeds that we had received all those years ago with Brazos 2.0. Turns out I was wrong. This is a fairly major refresh which does a few things that I did not think were entirely possible, and I’m a rather optimistic person. So why is this release surprising? Let us take a good look under the hood.
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So how much faster are these new parts? Well, they are quite a bit faster clocked than the previous generation. What is more significant is that they can clock higher while achieving much LOWER TDPs. The results so far look almost like a half-node jump in thermals and clockspeeds, but these chips are still produced on the 28 nm HKMG that was introduced almost two and a half years ago. I must reiterate, these chips are functionally identical (except for one major feature) to the previous Kabini/Temash parts. The basic design is a quad core CPU with 2 x GCN compute cores (128 stream units total).
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Incredible chip.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Proces...a-and-Mullins-Greater-Expected-Refresh-Kabini
 
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Shivansps said:
Really?! i hope this is some kind of bad joke with the naming.
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That is all you could come up with.
If you don't have anything constructive to contribute to the thread than I'll be more than happy to see you leave.

DDR3 - 1333 Memory in a tablet.
Quite possibe it seems
The tablet featured a 10.1” full-HD 1080P screen, with all of the amenities you’d expect from a current-gen tablet. As we’ve already mentioned, it was powered by an A10 Micro-6700T quad-core APU with Radeon R6 graphics, which was paired to 2GB of DDR3-1333 memory and a 64GB SanDisk SSD. The device was running Windows 8.1 64-bit edition.
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http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-...nstream-and-LowPower-2014-APUs-Tested/?page=3
 
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Sorry, but thats just PR scam right there, you cant call that thing A10 and R6 graphics.
 
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Sorry, but thats just PR scam right there, you cant call that thing A10 and R6 graphics.
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Beema will be much more common than kaveri. All they are doing is watering down their own brands.

edit: People like to say how AMDs marketing is better than it was during than bulldozer. But it seems just as inept as ever to me.

This amount of unrealistic previews and prelaunch hype has turned a solid iterational improvement into yet another confused disappointing launch.
 
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Just nice, not only it has higher single core performance but 2x or more graphics performance than Baytrail.

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-...nstream-and-LowPower-2014-APUs-Tested/?page=1
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Look at that Cinebench, almost as fast in single core as a 17W core i3, exceptional job.

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Hell, 2x times faster than Baytrail's single core performance and very close to Core i3 single thread performance. And all that from a 4.5W TDP tablet SoC at 28nm, truly magnificent.

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You know you've hit it out of the park when the only thing the haters can complain about is the name of the chip. lol This thing is an absolute feature pack, power sipping, tiny, cheap to make, competition crushing powerhouse! :)

I like these quotes:

"It's interesting to see that after three years our competitor is finally following us and starting to segment their product line up in a similar way, they've taken their product code name Bay Trail," he claimed. "They've positioned it in a similar way as an offering both for tablets and also for entry and mainstream notebooks, so AMD is the clear market leader in this category and we deliver a better experience and Intel is 'too little too late for this category'".
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"This category of products is AMD's; we own it, we created it, every year we build upon it to deliver even more. Our competition is finally following us and mimicking our strategy but we've got 'em beat," said Kevin Lensing, senior director of mobility solutions at AMD.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...nches-third-generation-mullins-and-beema-apus

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/0...ty_core_to_new_lowcost_x86_mobile_processors/
 
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rtsurfer said:
What do you think would be better.?
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The same way that Beema are called? A10-6700T is a 45W desktop APU, A10, 6700T, R6, way too much. Hell even the "T" already causes confunsion.

Other than that the APU looks good, but in yet to see power numbers.
 
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Alright, split off the post-launch posts from the earlier thread so that there's a clear difference between pre and post launch posts. All further Beema/Mullins discussion should take place here
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Shivansps said:
The same way that Beema are called? A10-6700T is a 45W desktop APU, A10, 6700T, R6, way too much. Hell even the "T" already causes confunsion.

Other than that the APU looks good, but in yet to see power numbers.
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Mullins name is A10-micro 6700T, not to be confused with Desktop A10-6700T Richland
 
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Shivansps said:
The same way that Beema are called? A10-6700T is a 45W desktop APU, A10, 6700T, R6, way too much. Hell even the "T" already causes confunsion.

Other than that the APU looks good, but in yet to see power numbers.
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Yes, I agree it is a bit confusing, but if I gift a Tablet with this SOC to my mother/sister she is not going to ask me what is the name of the processor in it.

I am not trying to make the BS arguments that only geeks care about these details, but frankly even when I myself was looking to buy a laptop last year, the only time I cared to look for the CPU name was when I was looking at different models.

If you ask me what is the exact name of the processor in the laptop I am typing this from, I would have to Google it.
And this is a guy with almost a 2 Grand gaming PC. Point is, I am fairly tech savvy, but after I bought the laptop, I had no use for the CPU name.

Edit: Also, with the special partnership AnandTech has with AMD, you would think that we would have an Article up from Anand or Ryan.
Maybe they actually got to take the Tablet home & are doing more detailed tests than most reviews.
 
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Well, why not call it Micro FX8350T with R9 graphics them?

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Amazing performance from a 4.5W TDP Tablet, outperforms 10W TDP Desktop Baytrail and come very close to 25W TDP AM1 5350, just amazing.
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Actually that is to be expected from a 2.2ghz max Puma, a 2Ghz kabini can already outperform desktop BT on CPU on ST/MT.

And about ST, the numbers seems to be correct from what someone can expect from a 2.2Ghz Puma, and im sure that maintaining ST turbo is easier.
We need to take a look at power and make extended tests to see under what conditions can mantain the turbos and at what temps, and thats a very important thing because the Z3740 does a very good job at it.
 
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Shivansps said:
Well, why not call it Micro FX8350T with R9 graphics them?
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This is an SoC APU with R6 graphics, i dont see why you have such a problem with its naming.


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Actually that is to be expected from a 2.2ghz max Puma, a 2Ghz kabini can already outperform desktop BT on CPU on ST/MT.

Same thing about ST, the numbers seems to be correct from what someone can expect from a 2.2Ghz Puma, and im sure that maintaining ST turbo is easier.

We need to take a look at power and make extended tests to see under what conditions can mantain the turbos, and thats a very important thing because the Z3740 does a very good job at it.
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Since it can finish Cinebench MT faster than Baytrail D it means that it can operate at adequate time at high Turbo frequency for most applications.

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Impressive turbo. For CPU centric workloads Mullins is much faster than A4-5000 for lightly threaded workloads (Javascript , web browsing, HTML5) and on par for fully multithreaded workloads (Cinebench R11.5). GPU performance is on par. In games and 3D benchmarks which tax both CPU & GPU the A4-5000 is ahead.

Compared to Baytrail Z3770 , Mullins A10-Micro 6700T is faster in CPU performance while crushing it in GPU and overall compute performance.
 
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raghu78 said:
Impressive turbo. For CPU centric workloads Mullins is much faster than A4-5000 for lightly threaded workloads (Javascript , web browsing, HTML5) and on par for fully multithreaded workloads (Cinebench R11.5). GPU performance is on par. In games and 3D benchmarks which tax both CPU & GPU the A4-5000 is ahead.

Compared to Baytrail Z3770 , Mullins A10-Micro 6700T is faster in CPU performance while crushing it in GPU and overall compute performance.
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Actually the performance deficit in Gaming is from 1333L memory on the Mullins platform vs 1600L in A4-5000.
 
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Pffft, test it with Haswell mobile, not Sandy Bridge. And yes, Atoms are still crap, we know.
 
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