AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Launch in January. Northwood January 7th.

[AGodspeed]

http://www.theinquirer.net/11120106.htm

INTEL IS SET TO FORMALLY ROLL OUT its smaller Pentium 4 processor using the .13 micron process at speeds of 2.2GHz around about January 7th.

But AMD is determined to spoil Intel's fun, according to sources close to the smaller chip firm.

On that day it will introduce its 2000+ Athlon XP and now we're so confused about how to convert a PR rating to a megahurtz rating that we're not sure how fast it runs.

EDIT: ***Confirmed***

 

[JackBurton]

OH YA, this freakin' ROCKS! I just got my P4 1.9GHz and I was easily able to get it to 2.0GHz. I haven't tried any higher though. The Northwood should kick ass and I'm sure you'll be able to get that 2.2Ghz chip to at least 2.5GHz....and I think I'm being conservative with that figure. Now when is the PC1066 RDRAM memory coming out?

Man, hopefully we'll be at 3GHz by the end of 2002, if not 3GHz then very close. This should REALLY improve my DivX encoding times. My 2GHz chip does a 2hr movie in about 2hrs comparared to my PIII650@866 which had times around 8hrs. Very nice indeed!

 

[JellyBaby]

<< The Northwood should kick ass and I'm sure you'll be able to get that 2.2Ghz chip to at least 2.5GHz >>

I just wish they were cheaper!

 

[JackBurton]

<< I just wish they were cheaper! >>


Me too! But hey, sometimes you have to pay to play.

 

[MasterHoss]

It'll be interesting to see what Northwood & DDR can do.

 

[Viper GTS]

On that day it will introduce its 2000+ Athlon XP and now we're so confused about how to convert a PR rating to a megahurtz rating that we're not sure how fast it runs.

$20 says it'll be 66 MHz faster than the 1900+, since the 1900+ was 66 MHz faster than the 1800+.

It'll be interesting to see what Northwood & DDR can do.

Yes it will, but I'm much more anxious to see what two 2000+'s will do in my Tiger MP.



Viper GTS <-- More power!

 

[Rand]

Too bad the initial Northwood's will be stuck on the 100/400MHz FSB... I'll be interested in how the Northwood 2.2 does on the 533MHz FSB.

 

[Texmaster]

<< Too bad the initial Northwood's will be stuck on the 100/400MHz FSB... I'll be interested in how the Northwood 2.2 does on the 533MHz FSB. >>




Exactly. If you are already hovering around 2ghz there really is no reason. I'm waiting for th 2.4-2.5 PIVs

 

[JackBurton]

<< Too bad the initial Northwood's will be stuck on the 100/400MHz FSB... >>


Don't worry Rand, it won't be stuck at 100/400 for long when I get my hands on one. I don;t mind them having a 100FSB, it gives me move room to overclock it. I don't like starting my overclocks at 133FSB. It just throws my whole system out of whack when you get to those high FSBs (ie. 182MHz). I'm predecting some nice overclocks with the die shrink. I predicted the Coppermines would overclock well when they came out, and well they did. Let's see if I'm right with the Northwoods.

 

[sharkeeper]

Athlon XP 2000+ should be 12.5x133.

Cheers!

 

[imgod2u]

Well, Northwood is suppose to bring other features besides just an increase in clock. I'm hoping for SMT enabled, since it's already part of the P4 circuitry, or so I've heard. If the performance clock for clock isn't improved much and it still isn't able to outperform AMD's latest and greatest, I think I'll sacrifice a little stability and opt for a much cheaper AMD solution.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I'm planning on spending about $500-$600 for a Pentium 4 2.0A (Northwood) / i845-B combination. I've heard Intel will drop prices around January 17, so I'm looking to buy then.

 

[GTaudiophile]

<< Athlon XP 2000+ should be 12.5x133.

Cheers! >>



For those too lazy to go to Start>Programs>Accessories>Calculator, that's 1662.5

 

[sharkeeper]

Windows shows 1.67 GHz here.

Cheers!

 

[JackBurton]

<< If the performance clock for clock isn't improved much and it still isn't able to outperform AMD's latest and greatest, I think I'll sacrifice a little stability... >>


Be VERY care what you wish for. You NEVER EVER want to sacrifice stability for speed.

 

[bjc112]

what stability..? the Xp's are very stable... even when overclocked...

unless of course.. you have problems building your own..

 

[AGodspeed]

Whoa, I have some very interesting news to report, and a lot of people aren't going to like this but...

I talked to a guy who works with Ingram Micro and he says that the Athlon XP 2000+'s are going to be equal to or more than $350!!! I was shocked at first, but now that I think about it, he makes perfect sense.

AMD has priced their 1500+ to 1900+ processors just below Intel's 1.5GHz-1.9GHz processors. Intel's current 2GHz P4 is about $450, and even with a price break on January 27th, the P4 2GHz (Northwood part) will be nearly $400 still. $350 or slightly more sounds right on. I'll just have to wait and see on this one.

I've heard Intel will drop prices around January 17, so I'm looking to buy then.

I've heard at the end of next month, on January 27th. We'll see.

 

[JackBurton]

<< . Intel's current 2GHz P4 is about $450, and even with a price break on January 27th, the P4 2GHz (Northwood part) will be nearly $400 still. $350 or slightly more sounds right on. >>


Ya, but the question is, does the 2000+ XP PR rating hold true for the new Northwood P4 2.0GHz?

 

[tristramshandy]

AMD has been chronically underpricing its cpus over the last year in its shark-cage chum-frenzy price war with DarkLord Intel. It's hard to fault 'em for gouging when they think they can get away with it. Besides, within two months' time, the XP 2000 will be down to a reasonable level (and the proc I just paid $185 for will be worth a quarter, like-as-not).

 

[JellyBaby]

I'm all for AMD making money but if the fastest AMD at the time of Intel's 2.2 release costs only a wee bit less, I'll probably opt for the 2.2. Fast, relatively cool and stable = good.

 

[sharkeeper]

<< I talked to a guy who works with Ingram Micro and he says that the Athlon XP 2000+'s are going to be equal to or more than $350!!! I was shocked at first, but now that I think about it, he makes perfect sense. >>



I guess we'll see a run on superglue, scotch tape, and windshield defogger wire repair kits!

Cheers!

 

[Viper GTS]

<< I think I'll sacrifice a little stability and opt for a much cheaper AMD solution. >>

A little clueless are we?

My dual TBird system is by far the fastest, most stable system I have ever owned. IMHO it even surpasses the holy grail of stability, the BX chipset.

Viper GTS

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

Don't bother trying to educate the masses Viper.

Over the last few years I've found that system stability has less to do with the chipset and more to do with the builder. Unfortunately most people won't ask for help or are too afraid to admit they don't really know what they're doing...

 

[Pabster]

Viper GTS wrote:

"Yes it will, but I'm much more anxious to see what two 2000+'s will do in my Tiger MP."

Preach on brother!

I expect the 2000+ to be clocked at 1667MHz. Once you make the move to dual, you don't go back.

 

[Pabster]

Orcish wrote:

"Q1: Is AMD platform less stable than Intel?

A1: Yes, it is, b/c it mainly uses third-party chipsets like VIA. These chipsets are solely responsible for AMD 'instability'. And of course, at least a 300W PSU is a must. The same thing with the P4, though - 250W minimum, 300W recommended by Intel. Pretty much the same. Intel CPU + Intel chipset + quality board = rock stable platform. But if U pair a P4 with a shoddy VIA chipset, for example, you will get a crapbox that will cause you infinite headaches."

While I agree 100% on the fact that VIA chipsets are unreliable and the #1 reason for a consumer switching from AMD to Intel, saying that (overall) the "AMD Platform" is "less stable" is ludicrous.

I've absolutely been thrilled by the performance and stability of my Tyan duallie rigs. Not a single crash that wasn't the result of me trying to push things a bit too far. Otherwise, they're all rock solid. Of course, they utilize both AMD north and south bridges.

And with the recent onslaught by SiS, the days of consumers having no choice but to settle for a shoddy, overpriced VIA-based mainboard are long, long gone.