AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ $309 with choice of core!

[Zim]

LINK. Shipping is $8.50.

Reseller rating.

 

[thecrecarc]

which core is better?

 

[Zim]

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
which core is better?

Have a look HERE for a start, then HERE.

 

[RideFree]

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
which core is better?

A/T comparison - Manchester vs. Toledo

 

[tjaisv]

manchester

 

[RideFree]

Manchester?

Manchester dual core with 512 kB L2 cache per core
Toledo dual core with 1 MB L2 cache per core...

 

[Zim]

Originally posted by: RideFree
Manchester?

Manchester dual core with 512 kB L2 cache per core
Toledo dual core with 1 MB L2 cache per core...

No! The 3800+ Toledo has half of each L2 disabled.

 

[BustaBust]

quote: Originally posted by: RideFree Manchester? Manchester dual core with 512 kB L2 cache per core Toledo dual core with 1 MB L2 cache per core... No! The 3800+ Toledo has half of each L2 disabled.

That would make it = Manchester?
Any way to change that?

 

[cw42]

no.

Both cores perform fairly equal, dosnt matter which you get.

 

[Zim]

Originally posted by: BustaBust
That would make it = Manchester? Any way to change that?

No, and nor would you want to. There is probably one or more faults in the disabled cache sections.

 

[Reiniku]

We're seeing some serious price drops/sales on the x2 3800+. Good new for me who's grabbing one within a few weeks.

 

[bjc112]

My Toledo core ( half disabled cache ) is sitting pretty @ 2.6ghz.

 

[greenwar]

Their Reseller rating is weird. There were some reviews from April and thats it. The website does not list any phone number. Can we trust this web site?

 

[RideFree]

Manchester?

Manchester dual core with 512 kB L2 cache per core
Toledo dual core with 1 MB L2 cache per core...
Apparently not according to zim & bjc112
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Sorry, I copied this directly from If you can't trust Wikipedia, who can you trust?

CPU Cores
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Manchester/Toledo (90 nm SOI)

Dual-core CPU
Manchester = 2×512 kB L2-Cache, Toledo = 2×1024 kB L2-Cache

Is it that the 3800 X2 is not the same as the other X2s?

 

[LifeStealer]

3800+'s with the Toledo core have 1/2 the core disabled supposedly because half of the cache failed. ~~

 

[RideFree]

So, the 3800 X2 is different than all the other X2s? Right?

 

[hans007]

frys has the 3800 x2 for $349, but it includes an nforce4 motherboard.

if you are near a frys that might be a better deal, since this place the reseller ratings isnt so great.

 

[Ghettocowboy]

Toledo is better especially overclocking

 

[cw42]

Originally posted by: Ghettocowboy
Toledo is better especially overclocking

yeah, that's why the world record for OCing a 3800 is held by a Manchester, yup.

 

[Odeen]

Originally posted by: cw42

Originally posted by: Ghettocowboy
Toledo is better especially overclocking

yeah, that's why the world record for OCing a 3800 is held by a Manchester, yup.

That's an outlier. The probability of a freak Manchester core ending up at the hands of a skilled and well-equipped overclocker is probably the ratio of Manchesters to all X2 CPU's.

I'd be more curious in the mode (i.e. most common) OC of a 3800+ Manchester and 3800+ Toledo, as it's more indicative of what the average Joe Q Overclocker with a nice aircooling system but not much more will achieve.

Just my two cents.

 

[cw42]

Originally posted by: Odeen

Originally posted by: cw42

Originally posted by: Ghettocowboy
Toledo is better especially overclocking

yeah, that's why the world record for OCing a 3800 is held by a Manchester, yup.

That's an outlier. The probability of a freak Manchester core ending up at the hands of a skilled and well-equipped overclocker is probably the ratio of Manchesters to all X2 CPU's.

I'd be more curious in the mode (i.e. most common) OC of a 3800+ Manchester and 3800+ Toledo, as it's more indicative of what the average Joe Q Overclocker with a nice aircooling system but not much more will achieve.

Just my two cents.

From what i've seen they're both pretty equal in terms of OCing ability. Mostly luck of the draw just like when u buy any other AMD for the amount they may OC. Also this is a very difficult number to come up with since there are so many variables (type of cooling used, how high the person was willing to push the chip, and if u get a nice OCing chip).

 

[uo7]

Originally posted by: greenwar
Their Reseller rating is weird. There were some reviews from April and thats it. The website does not list any phone number. Can we trust this web site?

6 lifetime reviews, No contact info. I wouldn't take the chance.

 

[thefamoustraders]

Originally posted by: uo7

Originally posted by: greenwar
Their Reseller rating is weird. There were some reviews from April and thats it. The website does not list any phone number. Can we trust this web site?

6 lifetime reviews, No contact info. I wouldn't take the chance.

I checked the FAQ's and there was plenty of contact info, tech support, sales, etc. but, if you have an issue w/ the reseller NewEgg has it for $329 shipped 3 day FedEx.

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[swamyg1]

Man the price has really come down... I paid $367, DOH!!!!

 

[greenwar]

Originally posted by: thefamoustraders

Originally posted by: uo7

Originally posted by: greenwar
Their Reseller rating is weird. There were some reviews from April and thats it. The website does not list any phone number. Can we trust this web site?

6 lifetime reviews, No contact info. I wouldn't take the chance.

I checked the FAQ's and there was plenty of contact info, tech support, sales, etc. but, if you have an issue w/ the reseller NewEgg has it for $329 shipped 3 day FedEx.

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