AMD Athlon 64 2800+ Processor Socket 754 Retail

[fibes]

What is the difference between this CPU and this CPU? To me it just looks like the packaging is different.

 

[Fern]

Yeah, both are 2800+ Newcastles.

The manufacturer SKU is different, but I can't see anything other than packaging looking diff?

Fern

 

[imported_Kensai]

PIB for one and fvcked up annoying packaging for the other.

 

[Bateluer]

One has the newer AMD retail package, and the other has the older style packaging.

Same chip, ZZF probably just has some old stock.

 

[mwmorph]

go for the first one. I really hate having to gnaw/rip/cut through those weird plastic packages.

 

[fibes]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
go for the first one. I really hate having to gnaw/rip/cut through those weird plastic packages.

I agree. Thanks!

 

[dguy6789]

The first one has a better box. Go for it.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

sry for hijacking this thread but can anyone explain in short why the 3800+ Venice is about a 100 bucks over a 3700+ San Diego? ty.

 

[mwmorph]

512k less chache which means a lot less silicon and transistors. Also, the San Deigo ocs better ue to the increased chache i think.(The FX57 is basically a oced 3700+ San Diego)

 

[freethrowtommy]

The San Diego doesn't OC better than a standard Venice. If anything, you might get a worse OC with a San Diego, because of the increase of chance of failure rate with more transistors and an increased cache. I guess the San Diego core puts out slightly more heat/power... and this is like 1W more per 100W or something... very small. But I would go with the 3700+ over the 3800+ just due to the increased cache and probably equal OC ablity. But the cache increase is expensive to put on a chip and tougher to get perfect yeilds without some cache failure in manufacturing, so that would explain the cost.

 

[xalar]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
sry for hijacking this thread but can anyone explain in short why the 3800+ Venice is about a 100 bucks over a 3700+ San Diego? ty.

Well, the 3800+ Venice has got a 9% increase in clock speed over the 3700+ San Diego. Thus, you get an increase in price. While the 3700+ San Diego may be a better value for an overclocker, the majority of AMD's customers will never overlock their chips.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

9%, thats much. but i expect only 3-5% in overall performance due to the san diego`s larger cache advantage, from some reviews i just read.

 

[xalar]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
9%, thats much. but i expect only 3-5% in overall performance due to the san diego`s larger cache advantage, from some reviews i just read.

2200 to 2400 is a 9% increase in clock speed. Not factoring in cache size.