AMD AM4 CPU, APU And Motherboard Spotted On Zauba –Spring 2016 Launch Imminent

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http://wccftech.com/amd-am4-cpu-apu-motherboard/



We spotted a bios microcode update about three months ago that’s destined to make it to AM4 motherboard to facilitate AM4 APU and CPU compatibility. The updated included support for AMD’s upcoming 7th generation APUs in which the code names Stoney and Bristol Ridge were given mention for the very first time in an official capacity.

Interestingly, we’ve looked at shipping data for AMD’s mobile Carrizo chips and we’ve found that after approximately 4 months of appearing on the database the chips launched. This in turn indicates that the AM4 platform will inevitably launch in the spring of next year. Which coincides with the reports that surfaced a couple of weeks back which spoke of an AM4 debut around March of next year.

Bristol Ridge and Stoney Ridge both belong to AMD’s 7th generation APU line-up that the company announced back in May at its Financial Analyst Day event. The 7th generation of AMD APUs will forgo the aging FM2+ and AM3 sockets in favor of an all new platform based on AM4 socket. A socket that these chips will share with AMD’s hotly anticipated high-performance Summit Ridge family of CPUs.

Summit Ridge is the leaked code name for AMD’s upcoming FX family of enthusiast/high-end desktop CPUs featuring AMD’s brand new high performance x86 CPU core “Zen”, the development of which was spearheaded by the legendary CPU architect Jim Keller.

 

[LTC8K6]

wccftech though...

 

[Rickyyy369]

wccftech though...

They're just reporting it, its a legit Zauba printout. I guess the rumor of a march AM4 launch was legit :thumbsup:

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

The chips listed in the article look like more of the same in terms of clockspeed and core/module count. Unless Bristol Ridge (EXV) is really that much better than Kaveri these are going to flop in the mobile segment.

The desktop ones look a little more interesting though; I see what appear to be the Carizzo answer to the A10-7800 and A8-7600. If this is a decent enough bump, the 7600-equivalent will be going into a fair few builds for my customers

 

[Techhog]

So, we can throw the "not taped out yet" thing out as a misunderstanding?

 

[Arachnotronic]

So, we can throw the "not taped out yet" thing out as a misunderstanding?

No. These look like Bristol Ridge chips.

 

[Shehriazad]

Alrighty then. Give me some nice ITX boards and I'll build yet another cube and see how this one goes.


I mean realistically speaking this thing will only be 5-10% better on the CPU side...but maybe the "chipset" and DDR4 ram can give some minor boost as well?

But I'm not really expecting anything more than Kaveri +-10% in performance clock for clock.

Now the question of how high it will clock, though. If the same process is used as with Kaveri(Does anyone know)...that means those things will "reliably" hit 4.5 Ghz during OC but not go any higher than 4.7 Ghz in the vast majority of cases. Hoping for baseclocks of 3.8 - 4 Ghz.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Considering MSI isn't even working on AM4 boards yet. Spring launch is more than optimistic for Bristol Ridge.

 

[DrMrLordX]

So, we can throw the "not taped out yet" thing out as a misunderstanding?

Yes, for reasons having nothing to do with this thread.

I mean realistically speaking this thing will only be 5-10% better on the CPU side...but maybe the "chipset" and DDR4 ram can give some minor boost as well?

Not sure we should expect anything great on the memory side, aside from the delta colour compression for the iGPU. It's just Carrizo's IMC all over again.

Now the question of how high it will clock, though. If the same process is used as with Kaveri(Does anyone know)...that means those things will "reliably" hit 4.5 Ghz during OC but not go any higher than 4.7 Ghz in the vast majority of cases. Hoping for baseclocks of 3.8 - 4 Ghz.

Unknown as to what will be the clockspeed "wall". It's using the same process as Carrizo, which is GF28A (forget which process it really is, but it isn't 28shp ala Kaveri). Apparently the voltage scaling is improved thanks to process refinements similar to what GV-A1 brought to the table for Kaveri earlier this year.

The real question is how Bristol Ridge will react to higher-than-normal power draw. Carrizo - and presumably Bristol Ridge - has no real base clock, so the base clock of 3.6 GHz for the top-end desktop Bristol Ridge chip is more sort of a target that all modules would reach during stable operation. Who knows how often/for how long Bristol Ridge will hit any of its turbo states? And how will it respond to overclocking? Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Considering MSI isn't even working on AM4 boards yet. Spring launch is more than optimistic for Bristol Ridge.

Or maybe MSI isn't interested in being among the first to launch an AM4 board. I expect Asus, Gigabyte, and ASRock to be the first out of the gate.

 

[videobruce]

What processor series will go along with this chipset (both which are overdue) and will this chipset be backwards compatible with AM3 sockets??

 

[ShintaiDK]

Or maybe MSI isn't interested in being among the first to launch an AM4 board. I expect Asus, Gigabyte, and ASRock to be the first out of the gate.

Now we are just out in the excuses.

 

[ShintaiDK]

What processor series will go along with this chipset (both which are overdue) and will this chipset be backwards compatible with AM3 sockets??

The CPUs/APUs dont have a naming yet and there is quite some time for their release. And no, it will not be compatible with anything existing.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Now we are just out in the excuses.

If Zen is going to be so great, especially for enthusiasts, then you would expect companies like MSI which are trying to compete in the market for gaming boards (since this is a fairly lucrative niche within a sickly PC market) to be on top of this.

 

[III-V]

Considering MSI isn't even working on AM4 boards yet

What's that based on?

Nevermind, found it:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9843/...ang-ted-hung-andy-tung-motherboards-notebooks

Interesting.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I really feel bad for those who are "waiting for Zen." Even if AMD hits its +40% IPC over XV, this is pretty much Haswell class per-clock performance with clock-speeds totally unknown.

Why not just buy a Haswell/Haswell-E or a Skylake today and get tomorrow's (best case) performance today?

 

[dark zero]

I really feel bad for those who are "waiting for Zen." Even if AMD hits its +40% IPC over XV, this is pretty much Haswell class per-clock performance with clock-speeds totally unknown.

Why not just buy a Haswell/Haswell-E or a Skylake today and get tomorrow's (best case) performance today?

Actually due DDR4. Haswell is DDR3 BTW.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Actually due DDR4. Haswell is DDR3 BTW.

Both Haswell-E and Skylake support DDR4.

 

[dark zero]

Both Haswell-E and Skylake support DDR4.

Haswell E requires a expensive MoBo and has only 140 watts chips and Skylake is limited up to 4 real cores.

The perfect comparison might be with Broadwell.

 

[monstercameron]

I really feel bad for those who are "waiting for Zen." Even if AMD hits its +40% IPC over XV, this is pretty much Haswell class per-clock performance with clock-speeds totally unknown.

Why not just buy a Haswell/Haswell-E or a Skylake today and get tomorrow's (best case) performance today?

single core cpu perf hasnt been amds strength for over 10 years...
we have to wait and see the value proposition before we spend all our hard earned money on intel.

 

[Soulkeeper]

I really feel bad for those who are "waiting for Zen." Even if AMD hits its +40% IPC over XV, this is pretty much Haswell class per-clock performance with clock-speeds totally unknown.

Why not just buy a Haswell/Haswell-E or a Skylake today and get tomorrow's (best case) performance today?

Maybe people need things to look forward to, hope/dreams/faith/etc.
I dunno, I can't fault anyone for their choices. I am looking forward to zen myself, and enjoy saving money by not upgrading untill then

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Of course the usual circle-jerk crew comes in this thread to crap all over it.

It'd be nice to have an enthusiast community that looks forward to new CPUs and products, regardless of vendor, rather than shills and fanboys ruining discussions. No doubt, some of you try to ruin everything that you don't own stock in or work for.

 

[Arachnotronic]

NVM.

 

[ShintaiDK]

single core cpu perf hasnt been amds strength for over 10 years...
we have to wait and see the value proposition before we spend all our hard earned money on intel.

We always have to wait with AMD wont we? We are going to die of all age and without any good PC if we all did that.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Now we are just out in the excuses.

If you say so. Meanwhile the OP's link seems to have some legit data indicating a March launch for AM4/Bristol Ridge.

If you think some remarks from an MSI rep in an interview are an indicator of what every motherboard OEM will be doing this year, then hey, go right ahead. Personally I do not think that guy speaks for other companies.

We always have to wait with AMD wont we? We are going to die of all age and without any good PC if we all did that.

Both Intel and AMD are making people wait thesedays. People can try to pick on one or the other based on duration, but for everyone now, it is a waiting game.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Yes, because wccftech, compared to a MSI rep is so trustworthy. Wccftech is a trash site. Never been anything else.