Question AMD 7800XT, 7900XT or NVIDIA 4070 Super?

[bob4432]

As the title states, AMD 7800XT, 7900XT or NVIDIA 4070 Super @ 1440 & hopefully 4k?

For the time being I will be running AM4 setup - 5700x3D, 32GB RAM, 2X2 WD BLACK 2TB NVME SSDS with it and hope to be at the very least 1440p (fwiw current monitor is a Acer KG271U) but hopefully 4k capable. FWIW, I have been stocking parts (on the cheap!) for a AM5 build which I want to use the same gpu I decide here.

Games will be BF2042 @ BF:V with ultra settings.

I can't give you current fps as the 5700x3D is currently still in the packaging and I just have a RX580 in the machine.

Share your knowledge!

 

[biostud]

uhm are you comparing the $599 4070 Super with the $469 7800XT?

If you are willing to buy a $599 4070 Super, you should be looking at the $639 7900XT instead of the 7800XT.

 

[tcsenter]

Channel is of unknown rep to me:

 

[gdansk]

It depends on the price but I'd go with the RTX 4070 Super personally. Some extra performance even at 4K, DLSS, less power usage. Downside is less VRAM and costs more.

 

[Brainonska511]

uhm are you comparing the $599 4070 Super with the $469 7800XT?

If you are willing to buy a $599 4070 Super, you should be looking at the $639 7900XT instead of the 7800XT.

Or even the 7900 GRE.

Gamers Nexus has tons of charts published on their website. Pick the game/resolution and how much you want to spend.

 

[MrTeal]

Or even the 7900 GRE.

Gamers Nexus has tons of charts published on their website. Pick the game/resolution and how much you want to spend.

The $530 7900 GRE is a lot better comparison for sure. Overall faster other than ray tracing, more vram, $60 cheaper.
If you're not looking specifically for Nvidia exclusive features, that's what I'd pick.

 

[bob4432]

I have no allegiance other than the best bang for the buck. I will pay more if the difference in cost justifies it

 

[bob4432]

FWIW I am getting back into gaming after a 5-7 year break.

Does ray tracing make that much of a difference?

Is 12GB of VRAM enough - thinking a bit far out

 

[poke01]

since you keep your GPUs for longer and don’t upgrade as often, the 7900XT is the one to get, more VRAM will help a LOT.

uhm are you comparing the $599 4070 Super with the $469 7800XT?

If you are willing to buy a $599 4070 Super, you should be looking at the $639 7900XT instead of the 7800XT.

if your willing to use discounted prices for the 7900XT, you should use discounted prices for the 4070S, not the RRP. You can find the 4070S discounted in Australia, so I’m pretty sure it’s the same in other countries.

 

[MrTeal]

since you keep your GPUs for longer and don’t upgrade as often, the 7900XT is the one to get, more VRAM will help a LOT.

if your willing to use discounted prices for the 7900XT, you should use discounted prices for the 4070S, not the RRP. You can find the 4070S discounted in Australia, so I’m pretty sure it’s the same in other countries.

Those are discounted prices.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=565,547&sort=price&page=1

Cheapest 7900XT in the States listed is $640, the cheapest 4070S is $10 off RRP at $590. They really haven't dropped.

 

[poke01]

Those are discounted prices.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=565,547&sort=price&page=1

Cheapest 7900XT in the States listed is $640, the cheapest 4070S is $10 off RRP at $590. They really haven't dropped.

Oh wow. The 4070S dropped over $90 in Australia.

PNY GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB GDDR6X Dual Fan Graphics Card $857.65 ($837.47 eBay+) Delivered @ Smarthomestoreau eBay

Deal: PNY GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB GDDR6X Dual Fan Graphics Card $857.65 ($837.47 eBay+) Delivered @ Smarthomestoreau eBay, Store: Shopping Express, Code: PRES15 , PRES17, Category: Computing

www.ozbargain.com.au

The cheapest 7900XT is $1099AUD and the cheapest 4070S is $860AUD

Quite a big difference.

 

[bob4432]

Does ray tracing make a big difference?

Should I look for cards w/ a min of 16GB?

 

[poke01]

Does ray tracing make a big difference?

Should I look for cards w/ a min of 16GB?

At 4K 16GB is a must, at 1440p 12GB is good. For Ray tracing 16GB is better but DLSS/FSR will help.

the only card from the Nvidia side I can recommend you is the 4070 Ti super but it’s expensive. If you can wait, wait until January. AMD will release capable RT cards.


In my opinion Ray tracing is finally starting to make sense as RDNA4 will finally make it good for the $500 cards with 16GB.

 

[Shmee]

I personally don't bother with Ray tracing, I would rather more FPS, and a lot of others here seem to have a similar opinion on it, but that is up to you.

I can say the RX 7900GRE is a good card to consider for the price. 7900XT cards are great, but more money, as are the 4070Ti Super cards. Though some good deals should be available for the 7900XT if you look around, especially coming up. I do think the 20GB of memory is nice for sure.

 

[bob4432]

I can definitely wait, actually planned to see how Xmas brings out any sales. For the time being I need to put in a 3060 & 5700x3d, know I will be limited but I have a 1920x1200 screen I can hook up to get back into the game.

For the short term, assuming the 3060 is better than the RX580.

 

[Shmee]

Sounds good for now, and yes the RTX 3060 is faster than the RX580.

 

[tcsenter]

For the short term, assuming the 3060 is better than the RX580.

No contest. 3060 also has hardware decoding support for the lastest HD codecs AV1 and VP10/11. RX580 is stuck at HEVC/H256.

 

[bob4432]

Appreciate all the feedback, you all have really helped me out. If see something is missing please add it 👍

 

[bob4432]

No contest. 3060 also has hardware decoding support for the lastest HD codecs AV1 and VP10/11. RX580 is stuck at HEVC/H256.

I know this is off topic but which codec produces the cleanest output along w/ hd audio? Do the cards help with the encoding also?

 

[bob4432]

Does Nvidia have anything enticing for the end of this year or early 2025 that I should definitely be holding out for?

 

[SolidQ]

Does Nvidia have anything enticing for the end of this year, early 2025 that I should definitely be holding for?

Both NV and AMD going announce next gen cards at CES 2025(very early January), release maybe late Jan or February

 

[Brainonska511]

I feel like if you want something now, just get what you want in the next month. There is always something new around the corner, and new things carry the new generation tax. The current options should last you a while.

 

[jpiniero]

May as well wait until BF at least... see if there's a really good deal.

I'd say it's unlikely that the 5070 is worth waiting for.

 

[tcsenter]

I know this is off topic but which codec produces the cleanest output along w/ hd audio? Do the cards help with the encoding also?

Higher-profile HEVC/265 is capable of attaining the same 'quality' as the newer codecs. The newer ones are more about better efficiency, compression or reduced bit-rates at the same quality, as H.265 was mostly improvement in compression efficiency over AVC/H.264. If you have the hardware resources (including bandwidth) to decode an older (but still advanced enough) HD content at higher bitrates you can obtain fantastic results, you probably are not going to see any difference.

 

[marees]

I'd wait until the reviews for 5070 & navi 48 xtx are out