Amd 7 Series Card Owners. Can you still hit the same OC's with 12.4?

Don Karnage

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Having alittle issue. Ever since i installed 12.4 i cannot match my old overclocks with 12.3. Anyone else have this issue?

With 12.4 the max i can overclock goliath is 1200 core. With 12.3 i could easily hit 1260 core.

Is amd just screwing us over with OVP? It's obviously not a temp issue since i have more then adequate cooling.
 

3DVagabond

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Odd. I went back to 12.3 and could easily do 1260 core again.

Well, you might want to try 12.4 one more time just to see if there was a quirk with the install or something. In the end though you might just be better off with 12.3. It happens sometimes. No 2 computers are the same.
 

SolMiester

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Well, you might want to try 12.4 one more time just to see if there was a quirk with the install or something. In the end though you might just be better off with 12.3. It happens sometimes. No 2 computers are the same.

LOL, but it is the same computer!?
 

SickBeast

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No difference for me, op. I was actually able to hit 1200mhz with them vs 1150mhz but my cooling was better.
 

blackened23

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Odd. I went back to 12.3 and could easily do 1260 core again.

Afterburner generally resets settings after installing new drivers. I usually have to extend clocks and enable over voltage and what not with new driver installs. Not sure if thats why for you or not.
 

bxcloud

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Ever since 12.4 my performance is not consistent somehow overclocking above 1200mv or 1300 core. I run Unigine just fine passing it with full load and constant everything but performance goes down 10 fps and on somedays it's back up 10fps. I drop it back down to 1250 & 1180mv it runs fine.


edit: Oh well I decided to pull the gun on Asus GTX 680. Wanted a GTX 680 from the very start. This card is great but not good enough for 1440p. Not retail pricing but $510.53 close enough.

http://www.amazon.com/680-2GD5-Displ...5925345&sr=8-1

Not in-stock until May 4th though =(
 
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aaksheytalwar

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Ever since 12.4 my performance is not consistent somehow overclocking above 1200mv or 1300 core. I run Unigine just fine passing it with full load and constant everything but performance goes down 10 fps and on somedays it's back up 10fps. I drop it back down to 1250 & 1180mv it runs fine.


edit: Oh well I decided to pull the gun on Asus GTX 680. Wanted a GTX 680 from the very start. This card is great but not good enough for 1440p. Not retail pricing but $510.53 close enough.

http://www.amazon.com/680-2GD5-Displ...5925345&sr=8-1

Not in-stock until May 4th though =(

The card will run most games fine at 1440p with aa and if you disable aa then apart from 3-5 games all games will run max AT 1440p with rarely/occasionally below 60 fps but an average much higher. I am talking once Oced tho
 

OCGuy

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I wont even switch drivers to try. Sorry AMD, no trust there.

Although I would be surprised if drivers could change the amount of voltage it took for my core to operate at a given speed without erroring out. I would be interested in what IDC had to say about this.
 

blackened23

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Ever since 12.4 my performance is not consistent somehow overclocking above 1200mv or 1300 core. I run Unigine just fine passing it with full load and constant everything but performance goes down 10 fps and on somedays it's back up 10fps. I drop it back down to 1250 & 1180mv it runs fine.


edit: Oh well I decided to pull the gun on Asus GTX 680. Wanted a GTX 680 from the very start. This card is great but not good enough for 1440p. Not retail pricing but $510.53 close enough.

http://www.amazon.com/680-2GD5-Displ...5925345&sr=8-1

Not in-stock until May 4th though =(

Whether you get the 680 or 7970 you're gonna need sli or CF to max out absoultely every game out there at 2560x1600, period. You can generally lower 2-3 settings in most games and be fine, but some games will cause any single gpu to go below 60 fps (crysis 2, alan wake, witcher 2, some others....) at 2560x1600 maximum settings. If I were you i'd go for 2 680s if you're really wanting to max everything out - I have both setups and depending on what games you play, you'll definitely want 2 gpu's.
 
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Idontcare

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I wont even switch drivers to try. Sorry AMD, no trust there.

Although I would be surprised if drivers could change the amount of voltage it took for my core to operate at a given speed without erroring out. I would be interested in what IDC had to say about this.

Heh, purely educated speculation here based on my experience with other hardware/drivers, but it is possible if you consider that one of the purposes of new driver revs is to improve the performance by finding ways to optimize and make better use of the hardware.

In other words, if the new drivers contain "improvements" that have optimizations which make the existing hardware work harder to deliver better performance (lowered latency executions, less stalls, higher effective IPC, etc) then the GPU is being taxed and stressed in ways with the new drivers that the old drivers never enabled.

Think of an extreme example analogy of LinX/IBT (or Prime95) for Intel cpus and the change in stress brought about by enabling AVX. One version of IBT/prime and your OC'ed CPU is just fine, try the next version up and all of a sudden your OC rig is crashing from the extra stress brought on by the software-side of the optimizations.

So this could be in play with 12.3 vs 12.4 for those folks who were already right on the hairy edge of stability with 12.3. Optimizations in 12.4 push GPU IPC up just enough that the stability margin is compromised.
 

jacktesterson

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Mine has been 0 issue... mind you I'm not maxing out my O/C.

If anything, my benches improved slightly at same clocks using 12.4.

Are you uninstalling the old drivers completely before installing new ones? I personally use Driver Sweeper.
 

aaksheytalwar

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I played Alan wake at 1440p max with 2x aa with average fps well above 60 and only occasionally below 60fps. As long as you can do without aa or with less aa you can max out everything with super rare exceptions like crysis2 or metro