[AMD] 6990 is World's Fastest Video Card, Nvidia lying about the 590, the slower card

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formulav8

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To me the faster video card is this...

When your comparing two video cards the faster one is the one that makes a somewhat/non-playable/lowerFPS game more playable. I don't care if the 590 gets 800fps in quake or other uselessly high fps, and 6990 only gets 700.

For example: What matters to me is if the game is in the lower fps area with one card and the other gets you to a more playable fps area.

That is always the way i've seen it. I truly agree with anandtechs review over the rest in declaring the faster card. The 6990 is truly the fastest video card when it actually counts, where it matters. But even so, i'm not sure there is any game either of these cards can't play well at an actual realistic resolution? So no matter how you want to compare the video cards, they are both to fast for their own good (Way to big of a price tag....).

Of course people think things differently than I. Its just my opinion.


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Grooveriding

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And i am off to bench at 5760x1080 and 2560x1600 only; for Part II of GTX 580 vs HD 6990, only One is "the world's Fastest video card". Overvolting and overclocking also.

Keep us posted on those console port surround benches :thumbsup:

Get a few Black Ops, Mass Effect 2, Crysis 2 and Borderlands runs in there for me. Need to make sure I'm not losing out on the 200fps mark. Only getting 160 right now unfortunately ():)
 

SlowSpyder

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I think these two cards are close enough that it depends on the games and settings. AMD is probably the better choice for enthusiast set ups, like 30" monitors and tripple monitor set ups. So in that regard the 6990 is probably the better enthusiast card. But Nvidia could argue that they likely have an edge at common resolutions like 1080P. Of course I know which one has an edge when it comes to overclocking / overvolting. :D
 

OCGuy

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Doesnt it depend on the game?

I'm not seeing the need for another nV hate thread, but they seem to get the most posts/attention around here, so carry on.

Of course getting a little caught up in the PR gusto about cards that almost none of us are ever going to have can be fun, but....
 
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Barfo

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Keysplayr

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While I appreciate your view. When it comes to the most demanding games the 590 falls behind.

I bolded where you are inaccurate. Those two games are truly demanding games and you can clearly see in many reviews that the 590 cannot keep pace with a 6990. This is where the distinction arises and where the 6990 proves itself to be the faster card.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/03/24/asus_geforce_gtx_590_video_card_review/5

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Notice here the 6990 can run Metro on Very High, the 590 can only manage High.

Again here, Crysis Warhead, the 6990 allows you to use anti-aliasing, the 590 cannot let you use AA.

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Here is a good one, Tom's Hardware, which had a terrible review for the most part, but look what happens at surround gaming when you try to use AA in Metro 2033 on a 590

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It chokes and dies.


Point being, these cards are for 2560x1600 or 5760x1080 etc. When you are gaming at the penultimate type resolutions, the 6990 is the faster card.

When it counts in demanding games and you need more power to deliver playable framerates on max settings, the GTX 590 is slower than a Radeon 6990 and cannot keep up. In the generic console port and usual run of the mill games both cards deliver huge frames so you cannot benefit nor notice the difference between the two.

This sort of card is not about compromise. So why compromise and buy the 590 ? The 6990 makes no compromise and even when you get up to insane resolutions in the most demanding games, it can still deliver maximum image quality and AA, the 590 can't.

Moreso, why buy a fragile card, prone to exploding on overclocking. The 6990 is loud, but it's also built to last and doesn't go nuclear when you start overclocking and pushing for even higher framerates :thumbsup:

So you continually prove my point by picking and choosing reviews that prove "your" points when others are doing just the opposite. Thank you.
For a second there, I thought you were disagreeing with me. Silly me. :D
 

OCGuy

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This thread feels a lot like marketing more than anything. Each card is faster in different situations. Cherry picking benchmarks to prove a point is intellectually dishonest, from either side.

Also I would expect most people to stop reading that marketing press release as soon as AMD mentioned "3dmark11."
 

Keysplayr

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Considering some of your past comments through this thread and how out of touch you seem to be with the reality of how my setup performs relative to others. ..

Pointless to have discourse with you.

Don't you have some 1680x1050 Mass Effect 2 benches to run on a Tri-580 setup or something ?

:whiste:

It's pointless for you to have discourse with anyone with that kind of attitude. Lighten up bro. Your thread here is based on unfounded propaganda (cherry picked) and most participants here would probably agree, give or take a bit.
 

Grooveriding

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Your thread here is based on unfounded propaganda (cherry picked)...

You can call it cherry picked till the cows come home, the benchmarks are consistent from site to site. At demanding resolutions and in intensive games the 6990 is faster.

It seems moreso you'd rather call the benchmarks cherry picked than look at them and assess the data, of course you will go nvidia no matter what.

At low resolutions in games where the FPS is already way over 100 the 590 gets its wins in some games.

If it's more important to someone to get 170fps instead of 140 in a console port rather than get 60 fps instead of 45 in an intensive PC game, then by all means grab yourself an exploding, unsafe to overclock 590.

If you'd rather get a card that gives more performance where you actually need it and one you can safely overclock and one that does not explode, get the faster 6990.

It seems to be the de facto cop out now that any thread about a negative with nvidia is a 'hate' thread. The past couple years nvidia has had some blunders, driver issues and released a few turds like this 590. But we can't discuss it, because it's 'hate'.

Should dig up some of the old nrollo threads and some of your comments and opinions in those amd 'hate' threads. ;)
 
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formulav8

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If this really is nothing more than a fanboy hate thread then why do you all keep feeding it? Stop posting in it if you don't like it. Stop whining about it already.
 

n0x1ous

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Groove do us all a favor and get rid of your 480's. The only reason you own them is to hide behind them, so you can claim your unbiased because you own Nvidia cards.

Also, quit attacking apoppin. Stop acting like you know more than a PROFESSIONAL BENCHMARKER with both cards in his posession who has run countless tests.
 

OCGuy

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If this really is nothing more than a fanboy hate thread then why do you all keep feeding it? Stop posting in it if you don't like it. Stop whining about it already.

Threads like this that were nothing more than flamebait used to be locked...
 

Keysplayr

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Threads like this that were nothing more than flamebait used to be locked...

Sometimes these are better left open to address the FUD for all to see. I think this thread has generated some good conversation amidst all the propaganda.
 

amenx

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Groove do us all a favor and get rid of your 480's. The only reason you own them is to hide behind them, so you can claim your unbiased because you own Nvidia cards.
I have a feeling he doesnt have those 480s, but rather a 5870. :D
 

bryanW1995

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You can call it cherry picked till the cows come home, the benchmarks are consistent from site to site. At demanding resolutions and in intensive games the 6990 is faster.

It seems moreso you'd rather call the benchmarks cherry picked than look at them and assess the data, of course you will go nvidia no matter what.

At low resolutions in games where the FPS is already way over 100 the 590 gets its wins in some games.

If it's more important to someone to get 170fps instead of 140 in a console port rather than get 60 fps instead of 45 in an intensive PC game, then by all means grab yourself an exploding, unsafe to overclock 590.

If you'd rather get a card that gives more performance where you actually need it and one you can safely overclock and one that does not explode, get the faster 6990.

It seems to be the de facto cop out now that any thread about a negative with nvidia is a 'hate' thread. The past couple years nvidia has had some blunders, driver issues and released a few turds like this 590. But we can't discuss it, because it's 'hate'.

Should dig up some of the old nrollo threads and some of your comments and opinions in those amd 'hate' threads. ;)

you have an excellent point. I believe that you should sell me your gtx 480's for $100 each and use the money to upgrade to some amd equipment! ;)

@tviceman: he's not wreckage because at least groove's posts have some merit. the gtx 590 really does suck, in fact it sucks so much that it makes 6990 look somewhat decent, it's just that we probably have enough threads to discuss the topic already. Wreckage tried to convince everybody that physx + gtx 285 was significantly better than 5870 for 8 months. And wreckage would never have actually bought an amd card, while grooveriding had a very good reason to get his 480's when he did b/c they smoked anything that amd had at the time.
 
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cusideabelincoln

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Sometimes these are better left open to address the FUD for all to see. I think this thread has generated some good conversation amidst all the propaganda.

This thread is about addressing "propaganda" from the get go.
 
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Gikaseixas

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HD6990 seems to have the edge when comparing all the webstites tests but the GTX590 is very close behind. A future driver update might change the picture either way.
 

Lonyo

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Threads like this that were nothing more than flamebait used to be locked...

Posting blog posts from a GPU manufacturer which portrays the opposition in a negative light is now bad/not allowed/should get locked?
Because this isn't the first reposted company blog post about a topic which has also been covered in other threads. The other thread wasn't closed. Nor was it started by the OP of this thread.
 

Gikaseixas

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Posting blog posts from a GPU manufacturer which portrays the opposition in a negative light is now bad/not allowed/should get locked?
Because this isn't the first reposted company blog post about a topic which has also been covered in other threads. The other thread wasn't closed. Nor was it started by the OP of this thread.

agree, OP did nothing wrong

light up folks