AMD 64 3500+ Heatsink removal

[imported_Scorn]

Recently my AMD 64 3500+ has had some overheating problems, so i decided that I would apply some Artic Silver 5 paste to it (when i built it, i didn't realise the necessity of it). So, I unlock the Heatsink and fan from my motherboard (which is an Abit AV8 3rd Eye). So, it is unlocked, and I try to pull it out. Nothing happens, so i try again, and it comes out rather sharply. I didn't realise that the AMD 64's had the melting pad on them, so the processor came out with it :S.

At this point I start to worry. I hadn't opened the zero force insertion thingy for the processor (how could I, there was a massive great heatsin in the way. So i was wondering, is the processor damaged (I checked the pins, and none seem to be missing or bent), or is the motherboard damaged (I pulled out the processor without opening the insertion lever. If the processor is fine, how do I remove it from the heatsink?

 

[Regulator07]

if you can turn the computer on and it works, i would try running prime95 or another cpu intensive program to heat up the pad as hot as you can get it, then turn off immediately after and try removing it, might be easier, but i cant garentee it with that pad, works well with only as5 or reg thermal paste on there.

 

[mdchesne]

the only thing the retention clip does is secure the pins with the connectors within the bracket for conductivity. Bascially, all you did was pull a wire from another. under a microscope, you'd have scratches on your cpu pins, but other than that, nothing's wrong with it

 

[Doctorweir]

Originally posted by: mdchesne
the only thing the retention clip does is secure the pins with the connectors within the bracket for conductivity. Bascially, all you did was pull a wire from another. under a microscope, you'd have scratches on your cpu pins, but other than that, nothing's wrong with it

Says it all...the socket just pens in the pins...if you pull 'em they will come out...939 penned pins should have some retention force though...
As long as all pins are still underneath you are fine...

Welcome to the forums :beer:

 

[Sentential]

Ive seen this happen to a number of friends of mine. So long as the pins arent bent your PC is just fine. Next time when you pop the latches off the HSF, twist and do NOT pull the heatsink off. Usually after a couple wiggles it will come free without the processor attached.

This was also a problem on S478 Pentium4s as well

 

[Fenuxx]

Originally posted by: Sentential
Ive seen this happen to a number of friends of mine. So long as the pins arent bent your PC is just fine. Next time when you pop the latches off the HSF, twist and do NOT pull the heatsink off. Usually after a couple wiggles it will come free without the processor attached.

This was also a problem on S478 Pentium4s as well

Yeah, had that happen with my Northwood Celeron. Its scary, very scary. Though as others have said, if all of the pins are still there, you should be fine. If I was you, I would use a magnifying glass to check the proc. I did that, just to make sure, and everything was fine. Its always good to just double check, even if you think everything's kosher.

 

[TheStu]

The same thing happened to a friend of mine. The machine still runs fine.

 

[Sentential]

Yea its fine. Fortunatly nothing is broken...I have seen people break a few pins off in a similar fasion. Next time just be sure to wiggle the HSF loose instead of yanking it out.

If you have to force anything you are doing something WRONG. This rule of thumb applies to damn near anything

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: Sentential
Yea its fine. Fortunatly nothing is broken...I have seen people break a few pins off in a similar fasion. Next time just be sure to wiggle the HSF loose instead of yanking it out.

If you have to force anything you are doing something WRONG. This rule of thumb applies to damn near anything

Ive done this once with every single computer I've ever owned, that had an IHS on it (2 P4s and an a64). All of them are fine, though one of the P4s did lose a pin. Apparently it was a grounding pin or something, 'cause it still works to this day. I wasn't too worried about that one anyway, it was a P4 dell 1.5ghz that I got for $50 (case, mobo, cpu, ram- good deal!)

 

[imported_Scorn]

what a relief to know that my pc isn't completely screwed. Thanks a lot . But anyway, how would I go about removing the cpu from the heatsink, now that it is attached? I would like to put the arctic silver 5 on it anyway (cos i ordered it beforehand).

and also... my pc keeps locking up. no response what soever to anything I do to it. mouse is frozen, same with keyboard. I think it is either a PSU problem (I have a 500W psu on some good hardware), or a cpu overheat problem (why i want the Arctic Silver), or, after looking theough the forums, a memory error. It only happens when the cpu is being used intensely. The cpu gets to about 51 degrees C normally.

 

[mdchesne]

ya'know those little plastic putty scrapers that painters use to smooth drywall putty? get a 1" wide plastic putty scrapper and gently pry between the HS and the CPU. themral paste has almost the same consistancy as drying drywall putty so the principle's the same. the key is a little pry at a time. don't go jamming it in there and reeming on it

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: mdchesne
ya'know those little plastic putty scrapers that painters use to smooth drywall putty? get a 1" wide plastic putty scrapper and gently pry between the HS and the CPU. themral paste has almost the same consistancy as drying drywall putty so the principle's the same. the key is a little pry at a time. don't go jamming it in there and reeming on it

Thats what I did with mine (execpt I used a steak knife)...

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: mdchesne
ya'know those little plastic putty scrapers that painters use to smooth drywall putty? get a 1" wide plastic putty scrapper and gently pry between the HS and the CPU. themral paste has almost the same consistancy as drying drywall putty so the principle's the same. the key is a little pry at a time. don't go jamming it in there and reeming on it

Thats what I did with mine (execpt I used a steak knife)...

 

[imported_Scorn]

ok, it works great, but my pc still randomly locks up. I checked the memory, and it is fine. So then, i took out the GeForce 6800, and plugged in an old GeForce 4 MX 440. No restarts, but my damn fps is too low. So i put the 6800 back in. I checked the fan on the gfx card, and it worked fine. Perhaps the 500W psu cannot handle it. I checked with my local technician, and he said that the ampage on the psu was low (cheap psu) Power = voltage x amps right, so what could be wrong with it.

O, and even after the Arctic Silver, it still runs at high temps when playing games. over 50 degrees.

 

[piroroadkill]

If the PSU is a POS, there's a chance it could be overvolting the rail that supplies the CPU, or that the voltage setting is too high in the BIOS. Either way, at the moment, it seems that your PSU licks balls, so maybe that's the first candidate to replace.

 

[NiKeFiDO]

yeah i did that to mine by accident when i got a new MOBO - worked fine though

 

[imported_Kensai]

There shouldn't be anything wrong if there aren't any bent pins, I just did that at work.

 

[AlabamaCajun]

Get either a TT Fanless 103 or Thermalright XP120 both excellant coolers, you should hang out in the 40s. Worth the buck$.
Check the temps on your NB sink, It's taking a beating pumping the 6800, put a fan on it if necessary, a few of us have straped 40mms on with zip ties.

I also like to put plastic streamers spread around inside the case, leave the door off if you don't have a window case and put a sheet of plexiglass against the opening to allow your case to operate with normal airflow. Observe the streamers, you should see movement in all of them. If not, check for cables and long card that might be obstructing the flow. Both of my rigs CPUs stay in the 30's surfing and 40's gaming. The video does see 50's with stock cooling. If I oc by 20%, (2.6 running 3.1) the temps only rise 3 degrees.

 

[imported_Scorn]

i got it to work by underclocking the gfx card using riva tuner. It doesn't crash anymore. I don't know if it was a heat problem or a power problem, but it seems to work well now.