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BFG10K

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Wow, even the number 3 card has 16GB VRAM and is faster than the 2080TI. And the $1000 6900XT matches the $1500 3090 in performance.

The 3000 parts don't look so hot now.

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It's astonishing what AMD have managed to achieve with both the Ryzen 5000 and the Radeon 6000, especially given the absolutely minuscule R&D budget and resources compared to nVidia/Intel. Lisa Su is definitely the "Steve Jobs" of AMD with such a remarkable turnaround.

6900XT:
(It's absolutely amazing to see AMD compete with the 3090)


 
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aigomorla

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I'm gonna cry...
gg!!

not only scaplers you guys now need to fight against miners...
It also does not help to note that bitcoin is at 15k right now... lol....
So yep.... im pretty much going to declare the 6000 series vapor ware, because if you do get one your hella fortunate as you are going to fight scalpers + miners on top even.

Fake or not.. shots have been fired... lol.... people are going to read things like this:

Even tho it may not be true.... i predict a worse launch on NAVI then then what the 30 series had because at least we weren't fighting against miners. Well YET..... again bitcoin is up at 15k which is going to make a lot of people pull out resources.
 

DrMrLordX

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@aigomorla

Nobody's gonna mine BTC on video cards. ETH, sure. And maybe some other coins that they'll convert to BTC using tools designed to work that way. If BTC is leading a broader market charge upwards, then yes, the miners will be snapping up these cards.
 
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Glo.

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@aigomorla

Nobody's gonna mine BTC on video cards. ETH, sure. And maybe some other coins that they'll convert to BTC using tools designed to work that way. If BTC is leading a broader market charge upwards, then yes, the miners will be snapping up these cards.
Looking at thge price target that BTC is going right now, it may very well be very profitable to still mine BTC on GPUs.

I hope this made your day, today! :D
 

shinjuku

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Assuming one has purchased a first class ticket to the hype train,

How does one actually go about successfully purchasing one of these cards on November 18th?

As far as I can tell there is nothing like EVGAs queue system on the AMD side, and I have no idea what time the retailers will post them to their websites. ASUS has said they expect to be sold out in minutes. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

ps: asking for a friend ;)

I managed to order 3070 at best buy. I was already logged on to my computer, at 550 am in the west coast. i had newegg and bestbuy tabs open. newegg sold out fast for the 3070 by 6 am. best buy didnt list theirs until 3-5 minutes 6 am. But I just kept refreshing until i saw the add to cart option.

best buy implemented some updates and features on their site to help lower the number of items that scalpers will buy at once. they release inventory every few minutes. so i had to kept checking. but i managed to snag one at 610 am. so i think you're best bet is bestbuy (first choice), then the AMD website, and newegg.

I wanted to get the AMD 5000 card to go with my 3070, but i didnt wake up early enough thinking there was gonna be plenty in stock by 630 am when i finaly woke up. man i was so wrong.
 
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MrTeal

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Bitcoin could hit $1M/BTC and it likely still wouldn't make sense to mine on GPUs. Alt coin price generally tracks with Bitcoin price though, so if the GPU minable coins start going up as well it could be trouble.
 

Glo.

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Bitcoin could hit $1M/BTC and it likely still wouldn't make sense to mine on GPUs. Alt coin price generally tracks with Bitcoin price though, so if the GPU minable coins start going up as well it could be trouble.
Its not a matter of "If". Its a matter of "when".
 
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VirtualLarry

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I (perhaps not so publically) speculated that these new "Big Navi" cards would be really great Crypto-miner cards. Navi10 is already one of the best cards for MH/sec per watt, or whatever the proper metric is. (I own several now.) In fact, some miners have speculated on YT, that it may be (with a certain incoming price decrease on existing RX 5600XT and RX 5700XT stock), better, if you're not pressed for density, to buy two RX 5600XT or RX 5700XT cards, and mine with both of them (at reduced power settings, obviously).

RX 5700XT can do 50+MH/sec on 110-130W (or less), so if RX 6800XT can do 100MH/sec, on 280W or so (at reduced power), then honestly, they're both somewhat equivalent in terms of hashrate/watt, so assuming prices line up OK, and availability is better, it's kind of an either/or situation.

For gaming, obviously, the RX 6800XT would be a better choice.
 
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Head1985

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99% people mining on GPU mine ETH.Lucky for us ETH transitioning to ETH 2.0(its already started)and POS.Good news is when POS is in use it cant be mined with GPU.Bad news is that it will take another 2years to transition to full POS/ETH2.0 so we will probably have another mining craze very soon.
But when ETH is POS i think GPU mining craze will die with it and there will be no mining craze in future anymore.So we need endure another 2years with this BS.
 
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Shmee

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True, but overall the mining of ETH classic is only slightly less profitable. Sometimes it is more so. Depends on price and difficulty of course.
 

aigomorla

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btc asic miners are working in terahashes vs 3090 at 100 megahash eth.

no one is mining btc on gpus.
The biggest issue is, there are a lot of seasonal miners..
They only do it while its the most profitable, and then stop.
They are not going to drop that much money on a ASIC miner when the resell value of them is not anywhere near a Videocard.

It is far easier to flip a videocard then it is a asic miner, and those who are seasonal will only do it while the value is still high, then dump everything to recoop whatever profit they can get left over before they shelf it again for another spike.

So far the last few cyrptomining crazy seasons have litterally starved out most of the gpu's for gamers... the latest making it near impossible even to get a hold of a 1080.
Lucky for us most of the 2080 transitions was when BTC and other cryptos were at a low.
But now everything is spiking, so i would not be suprised if we do see another scalpers vs miners, where miners will be even forced to buy from scalper prices because they still can calculate a net profit for the days lost mining.
 

Head1985

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Update about rx6800 mining performance
We have confirmed with GPU reviewers who already have access to Radeon RX 6800 series that the mining performance is definitely not as claimed by the user. The story is therefore not true.
 

Head1985

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Little better than 5700/5700Xt with 250w TDP and 600USD.Thats pretty bad.I think miners will buy 5700/5700XT.
 

MrTeal

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The biggest issue is, there are a lot of seasonal miners..
They only do it while its the most profitable, and then stop.
They are not going to drop that much money on a ASIC miner when the resell value of them is not anywhere near a Videocard.

It is far easier to flip a videocard then it is a asic miner, and those who are seasonal will only do it while the value is still high, then dump everything to recoop whatever profit they can get left over before they shelf it again for another spike.

So far the last few cyrptomining crazy seasons have litterally starved out most of the gpu's for gamers... the latest making it near impossible even to get a hold of a 1080.
Lucky for us most of the 2080 transitions was when BTC and other cryptos were at a low.
But now everything is spiking, so i would not be suprised if we do see another scalpers vs miners, where miners will be even forced to buy from scalper prices because they still can calculate a net profit for the days lost mining.
I think it's more just the (friendly) pedantic nature of people here saying if there is mining, it wouldn't be BTC. The most widely used mining software for BTC (cgminer) hasn't even had support for GPUs in years, and even with free power/space mining on GPUs wouldn't be worth the deprecation on all your support hardware or even the mental effort. I have no idea what a current top GPU would hash, but if it's 5x as fast as a 7970 even with free power you'd earn $0.13 a year GPU mining at current rates. You'd never be able to withdraw it though, since it would take decades to cover the fee to send it anywhere. GPU mining for BTC is dead dead dead.

What we really need to worry about is a general rise in price on the GPU minable coins, which could impact supplies if the RDNA2 mines well.
 

ozzy702

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REALLY hope it not good at mining.
I don't see how it couldn't be at least decent but hopefully not good enough to be attractive. Mining hasn't been attractive to most people in a long time so I'm not sure how much of a factor mining demand will be.
 

VirtualLarry

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Mining hasn't been attractive to most people in a long time
And... those in "the know" have been mining continuously for the last few years. It's been profitable, mostly, for the last two years or so, to mine, either ETH directly, or with something like NH (easy for noobs like me). I'm lucky, I have electric heat, and it's factored into my rent, so I mine to heat my apt. in colder months.
 

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