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Head1985

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99% people mining on GPU mine ETH.Lucky for us ETH transitioning to ETH 2.0(its already started)and POS.Good news is when POS is in use it cant be mined with GPU.Bad news is that it will take another 2years to transition to full POS/ETH2.0 so we will probably have another mining craze very soon.
But when ETH is POS i think GPU mining craze will die with it and there will be no mining craze in future anymore.So we need endure another 2years with this BS.
 
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Shmee

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True, but overall the mining of ETH classic is only slightly less profitable. Sometimes it is more so. Depends on price and difficulty of course.
 

aigomorla

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btc asic miners are working in terahashes vs 3090 at 100 megahash eth.

no one is mining btc on gpus.
The biggest issue is, there are a lot of seasonal miners..
They only do it while its the most profitable, and then stop.
They are not going to drop that much money on a ASIC miner when the resell value of them is not anywhere near a Videocard.

It is far easier to flip a videocard then it is a asic miner, and those who are seasonal will only do it while the value is still high, then dump everything to recoop whatever profit they can get left over before they shelf it again for another spike.

So far the last few cyrptomining crazy seasons have litterally starved out most of the gpu's for gamers... the latest making it near impossible even to get a hold of a 1080.
Lucky for us most of the 2080 transitions was when BTC and other cryptos were at a low.
But now everything is spiking, so i would not be suprised if we do see another scalpers vs miners, where miners will be even forced to buy from scalper prices because they still can calculate a net profit for the days lost mining.
 

Head1985

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Update about rx6800 mining performance
We have confirmed with GPU reviewers who already have access to Radeon RX 6800 series that the mining performance is definitely not as claimed by the user. The story is therefore not true.
 

Head1985

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Little better than 5700/5700Xt with 250w TDP and 600USD.Thats pretty bad.I think miners will buy 5700/5700XT.
 

MrTeal

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The biggest issue is, there are a lot of seasonal miners..
They only do it while its the most profitable, and then stop.
They are not going to drop that much money on a ASIC miner when the resell value of them is not anywhere near a Videocard.

It is far easier to flip a videocard then it is a asic miner, and those who are seasonal will only do it while the value is still high, then dump everything to recoop whatever profit they can get left over before they shelf it again for another spike.

So far the last few cyrptomining crazy seasons have litterally starved out most of the gpu's for gamers... the latest making it near impossible even to get a hold of a 1080.
Lucky for us most of the 2080 transitions was when BTC and other cryptos were at a low.
But now everything is spiking, so i would not be suprised if we do see another scalpers vs miners, where miners will be even forced to buy from scalper prices because they still can calculate a net profit for the days lost mining.
I think it's more just the (friendly) pedantic nature of people here saying if there is mining, it wouldn't be BTC. The most widely used mining software for BTC (cgminer) hasn't even had support for GPUs in years, and even with free power/space mining on GPUs wouldn't be worth the deprecation on all your support hardware or even the mental effort. I have no idea what a current top GPU would hash, but if it's 5x as fast as a 7970 even with free power you'd earn $0.13 a year GPU mining at current rates. You'd never be able to withdraw it though, since it would take decades to cover the fee to send it anywhere. GPU mining for BTC is dead dead dead.

What we really need to worry about is a general rise in price on the GPU minable coins, which could impact supplies if the RDNA2 mines well.
 

ozzy702

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REALLY hope it not good at mining.
I don't see how it couldn't be at least decent but hopefully not good enough to be attractive. Mining hasn't been attractive to most people in a long time so I'm not sure how much of a factor mining demand will be.
 

VirtualLarry

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Mining hasn't been attractive to most people in a long time
And... those in "the know" have been mining continuously for the last few years. It's been profitable, mostly, for the last two years or so, to mine, either ETH directly, or with something like NH (easy for noobs like me). I'm lucky, I have electric heat, and it's factored into my rent, so I mine to heat my apt. in colder months.
 

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Stuka87

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I don't know if this was posted already but Sapphire has put up pages for their 6000 series cards including two 6800XT models. Looks like the SE version has RGB fans, not sure if there are any other differences.

For the 5700Xt they had the standard Nitro+ (which has LED's on the side and the back), and the SE which has clear RGB fans. Which unless you are mounting your card vertically, aren't even going to be visibile.

EDIT: comparing the photos of those to my 5700XT Nitro+ I have here, they are very similar. Looks like an iterative design with different fans being the big difference externally. But I can see the heatsink itself is quite different.
 

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Which unless you are mounting your card vertically, aren't even going to be visibile.
You can pry my RGB from my cold dead hands!

I used to think RGB was stupid, and then I installed a mainboard that had it as an extra feature with the LEDs right on the board. I was instantly sold, it is way cool. Even when the LEDs are not visible, it lights up the interior of the case vents with a color changing glow that just looks cool.

The only thing is, all of the LEDs need to be in sync with each other, or it loses a lot of cool factor.
 

ozzy702

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And... those in "the know" have been mining continuously for the last few years. It's been profitable, mostly, for the last two years or so, to mine, either ETH directly, or with something like NH (easy for noobs like me). I'm lucky, I have electric heat, and it's factored into my rent, so I mine to heat my apt. in colder months.

Unless you have cheap/free energy, it hasn't made much sense to purchase mining hardware for quite some time, better off just to buy the dips. If you have an existing GPU for gaming, by all means mine on it. I sold off most of my hardware after almost 3 years of mining before all the GPUs died or just became worthless. I popped a lot of that into buying the dips. Not saying that mining hasn't been profitable, but the ROI on purchasing new hardware just hasn't made much sense when you could buy the dips and make $$$ for way less work. I doubt mining will be much of a factor for AMD/NVIDIA GPUs this generation. If they had crazy bandwidth memory far in excess of even what the 3090 had for $500 or something those lines then sure, but that's not the case.
 
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Stuka87

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You can pry my RGB from my cold dead hands!

I used to think RGB was stupid, and then I installed a mainboard that had it as an extra feature with the LEDs right on the board. I was instantly sold, it is way cool. Even when the LEDs are not visible, it lights up the interior of the case vents with a color changing glow that just looks cool.

The only thing is, all of the LEDs need to be in sync with each other, or it loses a lot of cool factor.
Oh, I like RGB's too. I like having a nice blue case :)

But I opted for the regular 5700XT Nitro+ over the SE, because in my case, the fans face down and I can't see them. But the side and back (top as installed) are lit.
 
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maddie

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Unless you have cheap/free energy, it hasn't made much sense to purchase mining hardware for quite some time, better off just to buy the dips. If you have an existing GPU for gaming, by all means mine on it. I sold off most of my hardware after almost 3 years of mining before all the GPUs died or just became worthless. I popped a lot of that into buying the dips. Not saying that mining hasn't been profitable, but the ROI on purchasing new hardware just hasn't made much sense when you could buy the dips and make $$$ for way less work. I doubt mining will be much of a factor for AMD/NVIDIA GPUs this generation. If they had crazy bandwidth memory far in excess of even what the 3090 had for $500 or something those lines then sure, but that's not the case.
Yep. The opportunity cost argument is very powerful here.
 
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CP5670

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You can pry my RGB from my cold dead hands!

I used to think RGB was stupid, and then I installed a mainboard that had it as an extra feature with the LEDs right on the board. I was instantly sold, it is way cool. Even when the LEDs are not visible, it lights up the interior of the case vents with a color changing glow that just looks cool.

The only thing is, all of the LEDs need to be in sync with each other, or it loses a lot of cool factor.
I like RGB but just keep everything on one fixed color, and change the color every so often. My case has smoked glass panels that make the RGB look especially nice, subtle and classy. :D The rainbow colors or other effects look too distracting. It's also annoying that every company has their own RGB software and they are often not compatible with each other.
 
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