AMD 3800+ Review

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Vegitto

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Yeah, cherrypicked shit. I remember the Venices when they were new. Not a single one under 2700 MHz.
 
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Bona Fide

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Eh...I hope that's not true. Just look at the Venices right now...you can still get >2500mhz.
 
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Originally posted by: Bona Fide
Eh...I hope that's not true. Just look at the Venices right now...you can still get >2500mhz.
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Yupp but U have two cores on each X2 and the HTT has to be adjusted to the least performing core :(
 
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I think 4600+ (2.4 GHz) speeds will be achieveable, & that's nothing to complain about :)

Where's AT's review on this though?
 
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To get to the real issue at hand.....The 2ghz 3800+ shows once again how sh^tty the P-D's are...It still slaps the 820 around and would have beat the more price comparable 830 as well.....

How low wouls a dual core have to go to equal an 820?? Prbably a 3400+ (1.8ghz) model???
 
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Vegitto

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Originally posted by: Duvie
To get to the real issue at hand.....The 2ghz 3800+ shows once again how sh^tty the P-D's are...It still slaps the 820 around and would have beat the more price comparable 830 as well.....

How low wouls a dual core have to go to equal an 820?? Prbably a 3400+ (1.8ghz) model???
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That's easy to measure, Duvie. Just underclock your X2, and compare the results to someone with a Pentium D.
 
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I would be plenty happy with 2.5 ghz, now for them to get under $300 and I am sold. The die size on these are less than the old newcastle cores! That's awesome because they could get cheap :D

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Originally posted by: Vegitto
Originally posted by: Duvie
To get to the real issue at hand.....The 2ghz 3800+ shows once again how sh^tty the P-D's are...It still slaps the 820 around and would have beat the more price comparable 830 as well.....

How low wouls a dual core have to go to equal an 820?? Prbably a 3400+ (1.8ghz) model???
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That's easy to measure, Duvie. Just underclock your X2, and compare the results to someone with a Pentium D.
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Yeah Lower multipliers are allowed, this would make lowering only the CPU speed and keeping everything else the same easy. I would Like to know how low they have to go myself but i wouldn't touch a 820 and don't know of anyone else that would.
 
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Leper Messiah

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meh. The reviewers are too conservitive, IMHO. only 1.425v? Thats not enough, esp. when your loads are only hitting 48C on stock cooling. Pop a xp90C and a decent panaflo, and I bet 1.5v and 2.6GHz would be fine.
 
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If they're defaulting to 1.35, then 1.5 is only 11%. Hell, I'd say even 1.55v would be okay if they had decent cooling...
 
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Agreed. An XP-90 and a 40CFM 90mm fan would turn the trick for sure at 1.5V, and if you wanted to, up the CFM on the fan and go for the gold :D

If they are like the current Venice revision though, once they need voltage to go higher, they need a lot to gain just an extra 100 mhz or so, the gains don't seem linear. Just my observation though :)

Nat
 
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ProviaFan

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While the X2 4400+ has been extremely excellent IME, I'm very glad to see that X2 multitasking performance has been extended to a budget category that was previously neglected. I don't think anyone who buys an X2 3800+ will be disappointed. :thumbsup:
 
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Anybody else troubled by how slow the CPU industry is moving these days? it's been almost 2 years since the fx-51 and a64's originally came out, and i belive the fx-51 was a 2.2 ghz chip? So now they have dual cores... how slow will the clockspeed on these ramp up? Looks like the 4400 is a much better overclocker, maybe i'll wait for that to drop to low $400's.. but that'll take a year in the current state of processor production.
 
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BitByBit

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Considering a 1.8GHz 3000+ has no problems keeping up with a 3.0 - 3.2GHz P4 with HT, it is no wonder the X2 does so well against the Pentium D, which lacks HT.
Smithfield/Presler are not what AMD needs to worry about. Yonah will be out early next year, which will almost certainly serve as more of a challenge to the X2.
 
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Unless I want to install the $160 XP-64 I paid for a couple months back. :D Seriously, start adding transistors (AMD64/SSE3 etc) to make "the second coming" aka p6 part duex, a more complete chip the power can't stay the same. And is'nt yonah a laptop chip anyway? Nah does'nt excite me yet, Conroe will be the time to buy intel again.
 
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I now can consider getting one of these, when they come down a bit in price.

I'm a bit disappointed with the OCing results though.

It seems most sites are only getting around 2.4 GHz, & usually they get cherry-picked CPUs, too.
 
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Originally posted by: n7
I now can consider getting one of these, when they come down a bit in price.

I'm a bit disappointed with the OCing results though.

It seems most sites are only getting around 2.4 GHz, & usually they get cherry-picked CPUs, too.
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Just stick with your old one...you won't need a dual-core computer until the middle of next year.
 
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