AMD 3200 64 0503

DoC91383

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I just purchased a 3200 from Newegg.com. It's a 0503, and i've heard alot of people complaining about them not ocing as well as older ones. So, shortly ill give my 2 cents about this with my experiences with a 0503.

Only odd thing i've noticed out of the box was it running at 1.33 default voltage. If anything it's stable right now, but at least i know i got a bit more room to play when im ocing it to 1.55v.

Anyways i was running prime stable last night for 24 hours so i'm going to start stepping it today. Hopefully things go smooth as i am pretty novice but not ignorant about overclocking.


Wish me luck for at least 2.5!
TOOOO BEEE CONTINUEDD.

Specs:

Cpu: amd 3200 64 0503 with retail h/s/f
Mother board: DFI ultra-D
Ram: G-skill (tccd)
psu: OCZ MODstream 520
video card: x800xl
soundcard: audigy 2 zs- oem
Case: Antec super lanboy

Max tested fsb is 300, i didn't feel the need to go further as i doubt i'll be able to utilize that .

So far i think things are going pretty well for my first time ocing and all. I hit a tiny snag while upping the fsb in a rush effort to hit 2.3ghz by the end of the day. Stupid thing failed to load windows with some memory error at 225fsb, x10 multi, x4 ldt, 200 or 1:1 2-2-2-5 t1, but i dropped it down to 166 or 5:6 and it worked fine. I thought with this quality g skill tccd stuff i'd be able to make it past 225fsb but it happens i guess.

Could it be that i need to run more volts into the ram in order to pass that 225? As of right now all my volts are stock, and it seems this board has a pretty good sized undervolt.

Now i'm at 2.3ghz prime stable for 12 hours and looped 3dmark03 for another 6. I'll continue stepping it through out this week.

I'd also like to thank Zebo for his newbie overclocking guide as it's been alot of help.
 

yliu

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What voltage are you running at 2.3 ghz? If you are following zebo's guide you are probably running 1.55V... I like Zebo's guide too, but personally I like to push clock speeds as far as I can without upping the voltage, then up 0.5V at a time (up to 1.55V for these processors)

Here is what happened with my overclock:

CBBFD 0441TPAW
2.4ghz at 1.38V
2.5ghz at 1.42V
2.55ghz at 1.5V
2.6ghz at 1.55V

all prime stable
 

DoC91383

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Well no i'm running stock volts still for everything. How do i know when i need to pump more juice through something?
 

DoC91383

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*bump* I think im stuck for the moment if anyone will assist me.

I can't seem to pass 230fsb. I get a error in prime at 235fsb in 5-8 minutes. I tried lowering the ram divider all the way to 100, and it still gets the error. I'm thinking that this is when people start uping the volts to ram or cpu, but i'm not sure. So on that note if someone could help me out, that would be great.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Is your HTT still at 5x? 5x 235 = 1175HTT, which is not good. Lower it to 4x or even lower to 3x and try then.
 

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I can't seem to pass 230fsb. I get a error in prime at 235fsb in 5-8 minutes. I tried lowering the ram divider all the way to 100, and it still gets the error. I'm thinking that this is when people start uping the volts to ram or cpu, but i'm not sure. So on that note if someone could help me out, that would be great.

Did you get a better cpu HSF other than the retail one?

Cpu: amd 3200 64 0503 with retail h/s/f

At this point, heat is going to be a big concern. I think a Zalman or xp-90 would help a ton at this stage.

If you have an aftermarket one already, disregard.
 

DoC91383

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It's only only at 40c. I doubt i need a hs fan as people get to 2.6 on stock cooling pretty comon. Yeah htt is at 4x.
 

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I'm using a 20inch koolmaster fan on the side of my case. My winnie 3000+ (2.43ghz) runs 18c idle and just over 31c on 10 minute loads :).
 

DoC91383

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K i've tried everything i can think of aside from upping voltage but i still get an error in prime95 in under 10 minutes.

Tried: lowering htt to x3, tried lowering multi to x9 and 255fsb instead of x10 230fsb.

I'm out of ideas, and i don't know where exactly the vcore voltage is located in bios. ( ultra d )

Any ideas anyone?
 

GML3G0

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i got my 3200+ last month and it needs a hell of a lotta voltage to stay Prime stable for a few hours. Needs 1.5750 vcore for 2403MHz stable. And that's where I'm stuck at...
 

DoC91383

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I'm wondering if i ran my ram at DDR550 2.5-4-4-8 instead of ddr 400 2-2-2-5 if i could run it with out the divider. I have to run my processor at 1.52 volts to stay prime stable, so i think i've hit my limit. I dont know if running ddr550 with no divider would hurt performance or if running ddr400 with divider would still be faster..
 

Phew

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I have this same processor, 0503 3200+, and I seem to hit a wall around 2.45 Ghz. 2.5 GHz fails prime in seconds. Voltage is 1.55, memory has a 166 divider. And I have an XP-90 heatsink with a high-speed Panaflo, so heat is not an issue (45C under full load). PSU is a 520W OCZ Powerstream with stable, dead-on rails, so power is not an issue. Mobo is a DFI NF4 Ultra-D with newest BIOS, and I tested HTT past 280. I guess the newer Winchesters just aren't as great as the earlier ones.

Oh well, a 20% overclock is good enough for me.
 

DoC91383

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yeah im fine with my 2.5ghz, i've only prime tested it for an hour, and looped 3dmark for another hour... i'll have to see if it's truely stable or not, but my guess is it's probably not haha.
 

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Originally posted by: DoC91383
yeah im fine with my 2.5ghz, i've only prime tested it for an hour, and looped 3dmark for another hour... i'll have to see if it's truely stable or not, but my guess is it's probably not haha.

See if you can complete a 32M SuperPi.
 

DoC91383

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Well, i completed the 32m superpi in 30m 20sec. It wouldn't go past test 11 first 2 times i tried it so i bumped up the voltage to 1.552 and it pasted it. The strangest thing is now when i boot my monitor losses power for a second, so i think im going to back down some and lower the volts. Unless the monitor thing is normal and can be explained by someone. iit's just a black screen for like 1-2 seconds where it normally isn't at lower volts.
 

ironique

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What's the required voltage for the G skill dimms? You may have to set it manually as on most mobos, default vdimm is 2.6, but those tccd chips usually run at 2.75+. Also, some pple have reported that they hit some kind of wall at 2.3ghz, but when they jump to 2.4 onwards, it's stable. You may want to try that.
 

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i have a 0451 3200+ and on 1.55v i can boot and run fine@ 2.5ghz but its not prime stable.

and i can get halfway into windows at 2.55ghz on 1.55

regularly run 2.45 tho. the asus/msi boards with new bios dont allow higher voltages. so ive got a dfi on the way.
i think the newer ones sound OK.. but ppl told me i have a "bad one" and i bet with 1.6v i get 2.5/2.55 stable.. and prob pull 2.6-2.7 like most ppl are getting out of the "old ones".

try 1.65v and see what you can get
 

DoC91383

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My stock voltage on vdimm was indeed 2.60 i did though boost it to 2.72. i tried 2.90 but it gave me a memeory at at stock speeds before windows booted. The memory is good though i've ran memtest for 28 hours with no errors.
 

clarkey01

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I doubt its a yeild issue, it wouldnt fit ( 90 nm has been running for one year come may).

I think they have tampered in the fab, or maybe its just that the last few been unlucky.
 

miketheidiot

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perhaps they did something to reduce the OC potential? better binning perhaps? Taking the best cores out for the new turion platform? (low voltage) Anyone have other ideas? Ussually processors clock better as they've been manufactured longer.
 

DoC91383

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Yeah ican run the superpi 32m but i can't run prime stable for longer than 7 hours, so i dropped it down to 2.45ghz. Ohwel still not disapointed.