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http://www.techpowerup.com/204467/radeon-r9-285-3dmark-firestrike-performance-revealed.html
AMD put out its own 3DMark FireStrike performance numbers for its soon-to-launch Radeon R9 285 performance-segment graphics card. Running on a test-bed powered by a Core i7-4960X six-core processor and 16 GB of DDR3-1866 memory, the R9 285 scored P7066 (performance preset) and X3513 (extreme preset); compared to an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (337.88 WHQL driver) scoring P5650 and X2774, on the same test-bed. For a card that's in the same price-range (the R9 285 will start at $249) as the GTX 760 (currently going for as low as $239), that's an impressive performance uplift. The R9 285 will start selling on the 2nd of September, 2014.

Is that good or bad, I never cared much for synthetics?
 

ShintaiDK

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Lets see when 3rd party can bench it. On paper it looks like a huge flop compared to the 280. A GTX760 also scores around 3000 in extreme. And a 280X scores around 3500. So I wouldnt put much into AMDs numbers.

7000 also mean they beat their own 280X numbers ;)

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Erm, is it slower than the 280X? The naming scheme makes no sense if that is the case.

I don't really trust firestrike though. It doesn't really mimic real world gaming, synthetics are a little different depending. Unigen really favors nvidia, while 3dmark firestrike favors AMD a lot, while 3dmark11 is better on NV. Goes back and forth and doesn't really mimic gaming performance.
 

blackened23

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The Fixer, finishing on a low note then. This is one of AMDs worst marketing inventions.

"....The good and the green" instead of the good and the bad. Seriously? Another cheap shot at a competitor. AMD you really don't need to sink that low. Just sell your own products and stopping digging at your competition, its getting really old.

Agreed. Now for sure NV has made missteps in terms of marketing (Titan Z comes to mind) but some of this stuff from AMD is unbelievable. The good vs. the green. Really? Taking the entire good guy bad guy thing to the extreme. They've done that nonsense for years and it never worked in the past, not sure why they insist on doing that.
 

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Checking the scores on web, it seems that R9 285 scored better than 1000Mhz 280x at normal FireStrike preset and tied with the 1000Mhz 280x at the extreme score. So, according to my calculations, then, is packing the performance of a 250W TDP older card on a 190W card. Not really impresses but is somewhat good.
 

ShintaiDK

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Checking the scores on web, it seems that R9 285 scored better than 1000Mhz 280x at normal FireStrike preset and tied with the 1000Mhz 280x at the extreme score. So, according to my calculations, then, is packing the performance of a 250W TDP older card on a 190W card. Not really impresses but is somewhat good.

But AMDs own slides kinda denies it.
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Kenmitch

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But AMDs own slides kinda denies it.
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I look at the chart and I see prices as the basis for the order. Performance wise ??? not sure yet as there are no reviews available yet. Of course pricing goes up with performance so I kind of see what your saying.
 

ShintaiDK

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I look at the chart and I see prices as the basis for the order. Performance wise ??? not sure yet as there are no reviews available yet. Of course pricing goes up with performance so I kind of see what your saying.

They do show a BF4 best case number. 15%

How much faster is a 280X than a GTX760 in BF4?
 

el etro

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In techpowerup 280x is faster than 15% faster in BF4. But firestrike scores is different. Is like 280x is 25% faster than 760 on gaming.
 

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Ouch. Thats a pretty sad card to battle for the next year forward. I cant believe they cheaped down to 5.5Ghz memory when they already went down to 256bit.
+1. I cant believe they're releasing such a pos. and they only do 4 zixels per pixel (which further reduces the chances of 32 bit int z-buffers being used more often as per fragment log z buffers with classic aa mean no early z which means more pixels per clock). And i am worried that they dont care about DP performance anymore since it not only doesnt list DP performance, but it simply lists single precision floating point performance as "compute performance". I had hope that they were getting better with the 7970 Ghz edition and the 280/280X having such high bandwidth, high 32 bit integer performance, and high Double float precision performance, but any hopes i once had are now gone. Perhaps people should stock up on 280s/280Xs (although those dont have TA or adaptive sync).
 

AtenRa

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Checking the scores on web, it seems that R9 285 scored better than 1000Mhz 280x at normal FireStrike preset and tied with the 1000Mhz 280x at the extreme score. So, according to my calculations, then, is packing the performance of a 250W TDP older card on a 190W card. Not really impresses but is somewhat good.

Im not confirming this but lets see what you have just said in numbers,

Going from 250W to 190W = 24% lower TDP while keeping the same performance. That would be impressive using the same 28nm process while also shrinking the die size at the same time ;)