AMD 2400+ and 2600+ expected out on 21 August...

[bocamojo]

Just saw this on the inquirer... Here's the link:

the inquirer

Sorry if this is a repost...

 

[IgoByte]

It's about time...

 

[Chadder007]

Too little too late?....naw Ill take it.
What is the intels up too now? Thats about their fastest speed isn't it? 2.6?

 

[ToBeMe]

They still aren't on the 333 bus though........ Intel will be at 2.8 about the same time with a 3.06 coming in Oct./Nov..............

 

[fkloster]

Are these still .18u?

 

[statix]

Originally posted by: fkloster
Are these still .18u?

Nope, it's T-bred core .13u

 

[xylem]

Hopefully they are on top of .13 now, and these have some clockspeed headroom.

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

Originally posted by: xylem
Hopefully they are on top of .13 now, and these have some clockspeed headroom.

Supposedly the "Tiawanese system integrators" say that the new Tbreds are running cooler...I'll believe it when I see it. I certainly hope that's the case though...

 

[bjc112]

2ghz barrier...



time to upgrade possibly...

hopefully these have a little headroom for overclocking..

 

[AluminumStudios]

I need every ounce of speed I can get ... but I'm on a budget.

I just built an XP 2000+ system with an Epox 8k3a+ mobo. I have it OC'd to 2100 and running hot (~64 under a load in a well ventilated case with a Volcano 7 and silver thermal compound.)

I wonder if a 2600+ would provide any significant performance increase (15% or more) for the software based video encoding and rendering I do from Premiere, AfterEffects, and Tmpeg ......

This isn't really a question as much as thinking out loud ^_^

 

[KingOfQb]

Originally posted by: AluminumStudios
I need every ounce of speed I can get ... but I'm on a budget.

I just built an XP 2000+ system with an Epox 8k3a+ mobo. I have it OC'd to 2100 and running hot (~64 under a load in a well ventilated case with a Volcano 7 and silver thermal compound.)

I wonder if a 2600+ would provide any significant performance increase (15% or more) for the software based video encoding and rendering I do from Premiere, AfterEffects, and Tmpeg ......

This isn't really a question as much as thinking out loud ^_^

those are not good temps is your heatsink on backwards

 

[Mavrick007]

Originally posted by: IgoByte
It's about time...

Hear hear! I hope it will be out in full force.
The question is how much will it cost? Is the .13 micron process up to snuff? If not we may have to sacrifice our left one to get it heh.

 

[SSXeon5]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Too little too late?....naw Ill take it.
What is the intels up too now? Thats about their fastest speed isn't it? 2.6?

2.5Ghz(400Mhz FSB), 2.6GHz(400Mhz FSB), 2.66GHz(533Mhz FSB), 2.8GHz(533Mhz FSB) are on there way, sept 1st.

Prices on Sept 1st

1.8GHz/1.8AGhz ~$140
2.0GHz/2.0AGhz ~$170
2.2GHz/2.26Ghz ~$200
2.5GHz/2.53Ghz ~$250
2.6GHz/2.66Ghz ~$450
2.8GHz ~$550



SSXeon

 

[Wingznut]

"System integrators close to AMD in Taipei suggest that the 2600+ has a raw MHz speed of 2.133GHz, while the 2400+ clocks 2GHz."

But shouldn't the "2400+" actually be 1933mhz and the "2600+" actually be 2066mhz? Or is the PR system changing?

And are they skipping 1866mhz and 2033mhz altogether?

(This article is confusing. Even for theinquirer.)

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: SSXeon5

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Too little too late?....naw Ill take it.
What is the intels up too now? Thats about their fastest speed isn't it? 2.6?

2.5Ghz(400Mhz FSB), 2.6GHz(400Mhz FSB), 2.66GHz(533Mhz FSB), 2.8GHz(533Mhz FSB) are on there way, sept 1st.

Prices on Sept 1st

1.8GHz/1.8AGhz ~$140
2.0GHz/2.0AGhz ~$170
2.2GHz/2.26Ghz ~$200
2.5GHz/2.53Ghz ~$250
2.6GHz/2.66Ghz ~$450
2.8GHz ~$550



SSXeon

170!!! for a 2ghz?

Sweetnnnnnnesss overclock that bad boy... It might not even be worth it for me to upgrade my T-bird yet

 

[apoppin]

<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4951">AMD, Intel play desktop cat and mouse game Faster P4s, faster FSBs, faster price cuts
</a>

CHIP GIANT Intel could be set to shred its latest roadmaps and pre-emptively strike back at AMD by introducing its Pentium 4 2.6 and Pentium 4 2.80GHz processors earlier than expected.
We think Intel will introduce its 2.5GHz, 2.6GHz, 2.66GHz, and 2.80GHz chips on the 26th of August now. It could be earlier, but that's our current bet.

Maybe some naughty magazine will breach the famous Intel embargo and force Chipzilla's paw? It could be the 19th even...

AMD appears to have imposed a blackout on its plans as it tries to figure out when it will go-go with 333MHz front side bus chips and its 2400+ and 2600+ Athlon processors.

Intel appears to be mulling over whether to release its faster processors earlier than expected. The latest roadmaps the INQUIRER has seen have a 2.80GHz P4 slated for September 1st, along with a big cut in prices on desktops, mobile chips and server chips too.

Intel now feels that it can start the price wars on processors once more, and pile pressure on AMD's Athlon XP processor and introductions.

Some weeks back we reported that a 333MHz front side bus (FSB) is part of AMD's response to Intel's depredations, but the real weapon in its push is the Hammer desktop chip.

To avoid leaks, AMD partners appear to have been bound by an omerta that goes way beyond the usual non disclosure agreements (NDA).

There's two weeks in which Intel and AMD can play their particular cards on desktop CPUs, and each appears to be waiting for the other to make the first move.

We'd speculate that it could be Intel that throws its faster processor in the ring first [That should be cracks first, Ed.].

And what about the new 845 chipsets? We now believe the 845GR, the PE and the GV will arrive as early as October the 7th, and Intel will also bring forward the 850E with validation for PC 10666 and all that on the same day. The E7205 chipset is reserved for October 22nd, we now believe. µ

 

[meson2000]

See, I don't really believe that AMD will launch both the 2400+ and the 2600+ processors in a week.
I think that they may launch the 2400+ next week. But that is a big maybe. The 2200+ processors
that are out there now barely do 1.9ghz air cooled. So I doubt that a new steping will improve
it enough to get to 2.066ghz. for the 2600+. I say that 2400+ at 1.933ghz is a decent possibility.
Plus, why would AMD launch the 2400+ and the 2600+ at the same time?? They already stated
that they are pulling out of the performance segment for the remainder of the year. Plus, I really
doubt that a 2600+ processor will be able to hold its own against a 2.6ghz P4 since Intel went
to the 533mhz FSB. Just my 2cents....

 

[Alkaline5]

"In fact, leprechauns close to those gnomes say that AMD will eventually migrate the 333MHz FSB to all of them thar Athlon XPs eventually."

I don't know, it sounds perfectly credible to me

But at least it looks like AMD is finally ditching those useless 66MHz speed bumps.

 

[Pariah]

With AthlonXP prices absolutely plummeting a few days ago, you have to believe something is about to get released. With the 2200+ at $150 now, it would make sense for AMD to release 2 new speed grades, one at about $200 and another in the $240-250 range.

 

[Athlon4all]

:Q This is very crucial for AMD to be launching these CPU'S. This will be the biggest speed increase (333MHz) in such a short period of time since the Athlon T-Bird went from 1.2GHz in late 2000 to 1.4GHz by June 2001. The 2600+ should be able to at the very least compete with the 2.53GHz P4, with the 2400+ competeing very nicely with the 2.4B. And maybe, just maybe, the 2600+ will be able to be priced at levels of the 2.66GHz P4 (which is so significant with every Athlon XP released since the 2100+ being priced no more at launch then $250, so basically, that will let in the best case scenario let AMD make $200 more per 2600+ sold than if it was priced according to the 2.53. I pray the Inquirer is correct this time.

 

[AMDfreak]

Meanwhile, the Taiwanese system integrator tells the INQ that the new Thoroughbred processors are running much cooler than the old ones.

Are about to see a new stepping with some major tweaks to get these things running cooler? We can only hope so, and let's hope that they're not pulling any throttling tricks ala *ntel......

 

[SSXeon5]

Originally posted by: AMDfreak

Meanwhile, the Taiwanese system integrator tells the INQ that the new Thoroughbred processors are running much cooler than the old ones.

Are about to see a new stepping with some major tweaks to get these things running cooler? We can only hope so, and let's hope that they're not pulling any throttling tricks ala *ntel......

As opposed to burning up at 700*F .... why would amd want to save there chips from heat lol.

SSXeon

 

[jbond04]

Originally posted by: AMDfreak

Meanwhile, the Taiwanese system integrator tells the INQ that the new Thoroughbred processors are running much cooler than the old ones.

Are about to see a new stepping with some major tweaks to get these things running cooler? We can only hope so, and let's hope that they're not pulling any throttling tricks ala *ntel......

Tricks? Where's the trick? It only happens if the heatsink is removed. The processor must get VERY hot before clock throttling takes effect. Some puny temp. like 60C isn't going to cause the processor to throttle.

 

[bjc112]

Tricks? Where's the trick? It only happens if the heatsink is removed. The processor must get VERY hot before clock throttling takes effect. Some puny temp. like 60C isn't going to cause the processor to throttle.

Exactly, doesn't throttling only kick in right when the cpu would supposedly "blow"?

Either way, these new CPU's are going to be a nice speed jump...

 

[NOX]

Whole seconds later, AMD said it never commented on unannounced products.

But shouldn't the "2400+" actually be 1933mhz and the "2600+" actually be 2066mhz? Or is the PR system changing?

Yes, it should be 1.93, and 2.06. If you ask me it seems AMD is TRYING to keep the PR rating bona fide.

But like with any rumor, only time will tell.