AMD 12.2 Pre Certs What am I doing wrong?

VulgarDisplay

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Either these drivers are HORRIBLE, or after 20 years of building and working on computers I've officially forgotten how to do anything.

Long story short. These drivers perform horriblly in BF3. So I now wish to uninstall them. Whenever I uninstall I get a black screen crash similar to the one I experience all the time when waking my 7970 from sleep. So I can't complete any driver uninstall. It goes black halfway through forcing me to power down my computer.

Now I can't get CCC to uninstall because it says my installation is fornicated. Guess I'll try driver sweeper to remove what's left.

Anyone else find these drivers to be awful?
 

djnsmith7

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I haven't tried them & won't until I read enough success stories & confirmation that they're working well.

You may want to try to override these drivers with the CD drivers & see if that works. I personally haven't used "Driver Sweeper", but I know some folks around here use it religiously. May want to see if it offers an option to help the process.
 
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ViRGE

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Supposedly the 12.2 drivers improved BF3 performance?
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/XFX_R7970_BE/10.html

What djnsmith7 said sounds like the easiest possible solution. Just try installing the old drivers over them.
I don't think he'll have much luck. IIRC AMD's drivers do a version check and older components won't install over newer ones.

His best bet is to boot up into safemode, delete the 7970 from the Device Manager (letting DM uninstall the core drivers with it), and then use the Catalyst installer to do a full uninstall once he's back up and running on the VGA driver.
 

Mistwalker

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I tried these with a fresh Windows install and a pair of 6950s, and upon reboot the CCC wouldn't let me enable Crossfire (though Windows and GPU-Z both recognized I had two cards installed).

Uninstalled, Driver Sweeper, reinstalled, still no Crossfire.

Rolled back to 12.1 and everything is fine.
 

3DVagabond

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I don't think he'll have much luck. IIRC AMD's drivers do a version check and older components won't install over newer ones.

His best bet is to boot up into safemode, delete the 7970 from the Device Manager (letting DM uninstall the core drivers with it), and then use the Catalyst installer to do a full uninstall once he's back up and running on the VGA driver.


Well, that would ah heck that technique, then. :)

You'd think that before a company makes their stuff idiot proof on the consumer's end, they'd make sure it was idiot proofed at their end as well. Not letting someone install an older version of something is pretty stupid considering the frequency that incompatibilities occur.
 

mojothehut

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I had to roll back to the drivers from a cd (8.921) for my 7950 to reduce some annoying bugs Im getting as a result of 12.2. However my CCC reads as 12.3 still, though the actual display driver is 12.1. *sigh*
Yea it's rather how CCC 12.3 sticks around despite installing a previous version.
 

VulgarDisplay

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So I've found that the card is not coming out of 2d clocks after installed 12.2 pre cert drivers, and is still exhibiting this behavior after uninstalled and installed the release drivers.

Is there any more drastic way of uninstalling that will completely wipe any trace of these drivers? I've been using driver cleaner, but it's obviously missing something.
 

blackened23

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Just do a system restore. I don't have any idea why anyone would bother with the CP uninstall or driver sweeper crap, just roll your system back.
 

skipsneeky2

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Are drivers a issue for the 7970 and 7950 right now?

Been reading issues from failing to wake up from sleep mode to random performance decreases until a reboot is done and i really want one of these cards but i haven't seen to many praises about the current drivers and i am a bit worried.

Last amd card i purchased was a 6750 with 11.3 i think and that was the last card and driver set i remember being solid and i hope for that near good experience if i pick up a 7950 or 7970.
 

VulgarDisplay

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System restore didn't fix it either... I'm getting really frustrated now.

Even when i boost the clocks BF3 feels like a slideshow now. WTF is the problem....
 

3DVagabond

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Are drivers a issue for the 7970 and 7950 right now?

Been reading issues from failing to wake up from sleep mode to random performance decreases until a reboot is done and i really want one of these cards but i haven't seen to many praises about the current drivers and i am a bit worried.

Last amd card i purchased was a 6750 with 11.3 i think and that was the last card and driver set i remember being solid and i hope for that near good experience if i pick up a 7950 or 7970.

Since no 2 systems are alike it's impossible to make drivers that will work for everyone.
 

VulgarDisplay

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The release drivers were fine. The only issue I had was the black screen on exiting sleep mode.

Now I get the black screen halfway through any driver install and I'm forced to restart halfway through.
 

skipsneeky2

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Since no 2 systems are alike it's impossible to make drivers that will work for everyone.

Guess you got a point,with my old e8200 build the 6750 worked like a charm but on this build when i had the i3 2100,the 6790 that i had for a very short time would lock up my system simply watching movies,but the gtx560 that is in here now has been hassle free matched with a 2500k,unlike the previous nvidia card in another build,that would crash.
 

VulgarDisplay

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What the hell... Just uninstalled from device manager in safe mode. Uninstalled CCC. Removed all traces with driver cleaner in safe mode. Rebooted and installed 12.2 drivers off AMD's site, and on start up it shows the 3d clocks for my card as being 465/685. WTF...

It won't boot with stock settings for whatever reason, and when I push the clocks back to stock it feels like I'm getting micro-stutter in games.

Why does it keep saving these low clock speeds for my card even after uninstalling everything? I've been building computers and updating GPU drivers for the last 12 years with no problem and now it's like I have no clue what I'm doing...
 

VulgarDisplay

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Wow....

So a random BF3 update turned on Vstync. That's why I had micostuttering and general horrid mouse movement.

Turns out these drivers work great.
 

djnsmith7

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I used Driver Sweeper last night & it worked great, so I'll use it again tonight before I install these drivers & see how it goes.
 
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Absolute0

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What the hell... Just uninstalled from device manager in safe mode. Uninstalled CCC. Removed all traces with driver cleaner in safe mode. Rebooted and installed 12.2 drivers off AMD's site, and on start up it shows the 3d clocks for my card as being 465/685. WTF...

It won't boot with stock settings for whatever reason, and when I push the clocks back to stock it feels like I'm getting micro-stutter in games.

Why does it keep saving these low clock speeds for my card even after uninstalling everything? I've been building computers and updating GPU drivers for the last 12 years with no problem and now it's like I have no clue what I'm doing...

I similarly upgraded to the 12.2's a few days ago and I also have an issue with clock speeds, but it's that overclocking software no longer works. Trixx no longer works and same with Afterburner, I tried reinstalling it and unlocking overclocking again, but it won't even detect my stock clocks and if I set new clocks they don't stick.

So with 12.2's I am stuck at stock clocks
 

superjim

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While I'm not currently playing BF3, I had issues with 12.2 pre-certs but only with OCing my 7950 (as Absolute points out). I didn't want to mess with fixing them (hardforum has a long thread on this) so rolled back to the original RC11's which are working fine.