AMD 10.12 vs 11.1 vs 11.1a tested ... interesting read

[happy medium]

Use the latest one. Of all the people I get new cards for, I always get them the latest driver nVidia or AMD. Never had a problem.

So quick question.. what driver was better the 10.1e or the 10.12's for flash player stability?

If you say 10.12's, you are wrong. So much for the latest driver theory.

 

[3DVagabond]

Oh , I seen it.

In the past few months I have never seen so many hot fixes since I've owned my AMD card. Thats my point.

At this point and time if I needed to upgrade, I would have no idea what driver to pick.
Honestly. I would have to google it and do some research. Thats just sad.

That's OK. We're here for ya if you need help. j/k

Seriously though. I'd rather have them do multiple hotfix releases, squashing bugs, rather than wait months for the first follow up drivers after release.

 

[Copenhagen69]

So quick question.. what driver was better the 10.1e or the 10.12's for flash player stability?

If you say 10.12's, you are wrong. So much for the latest driver thoery.

lol +1 to that :thumbsup:

That's OK. We're here for ya if you need help. j/k

Seriously though. I'd rather have them do multiple hotfix releases, squashing bugs, rather than wait months for the first follow up drivers after release.

True, but it also brings the question of what kind of shit are they making that they really have to release 3-4 hotfixes a month along with a new series of drivers. I wouldnt mind waiting 2-3 months for drivers if they had a nice performance boost and thoroughly tested for bugs so only a few come with it.

 

[jackstar7]

Yeah... I'm sure no one would be whining and moaning about long waits between driver releases...

 

[NoQuarter]

True, but it also brings the question of what kind of shit are they making that they really have to release 3-4 hotfixes a month along with a new series of drivers. I wouldnt mind waiting 2-3 months for drivers if they had a nice performance boost and thoroughly tested for bugs so only a few come with it.

You don't have to use the hotfixes. They're only meant for people who care enough to know what the differences between each letter are anyway. That's why they aren't linked on the main page. If it's too much to worry about then don't worry about it and stop digging around for them.


The flash support is about the only thing I can think of a hotfix version really did better than a regular version, and flash support blows regardless and should just be turned off to begin with.


But anyway the conclusion people are drawing is totally misleading to what the article says. The article says they were hoping it was bad drivers holding back the 6970, but that the new drivers aren't squeezing more juice outta the card (in 2 games) like they hoped. Conclusion = the drivers aren't bad and and aren't holding back the 6970.

 

[Skurge]

here: http://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-Catalyst-11.1a-Hotfix--x32-x64-download-2668.html

Thanks, too bad nobody tested those games.

 

[3DVagabond]

Thanks, too bad nobody tested those games.

I thought that maybe I was the only one who noticed that the games they tested aren't supposed to have any improvements with the 6900 series anyhow.

If the reviewer were a freshman in a high school journalism class he would have gotten an F for that review.

 

[Copenhagen69]

Thanks, too bad nobody tested those games.

not a problem :thumbsup:

I thought that maybe I was the only one who noticed that the games they tested aren't supposed to have any improvements with the 6900 series anyhow.

If the reviewer were a freshman in a high school journalism class he would have gotten an F for that review.

why wouldnt they? Does it not rollover?

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

they will always have driver issues coz their not making use of profiles like nvidia. every game is coded differently with the profiles you can tweak every game coz it will react different with every code.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Thanks, too bad nobody tested those games.

Apoppin did...

AMD Radeon HD 6900 and AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series:
3DMark Vantage improves ~7%
Call of Duty Black Ops improves ~20% at 4xMSAA and up to 35% at 8xMSAA

AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series:
Aliens vs. Predators improves ~9% at 2xMSAA and up to 20% at 4xMSAA

AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series:
Battleforge DirectX 11 performance improves as much as 6%

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=23626&page=3

6870 improvement in Vantage: 7%
AMD improvement on CoD4 (not quite BLOPS, but interesting data): 5-11%
6870 improvement in AvP: 5%
6970 improvement in Battleforge: 7.5%

 

[NoQuarter]

they will always have driver issues coz their not making use of profiles like nvidia. every game is coded differently with the profiles you can tweak every game coz it will react different with every code.

They do have game profiles, we just don't have the ability to access/edit them.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

why wouldnt they? Does it not rollover?

These aren't cell phone minutes. Optimizations happen on a per game (or per game engine) basis. Improvements in one game don't necessarily mean improvements in another game.

 

[Copenhagen69]

They do have game profiles, we just don't have the ability to access/edit them.

+1

These aren't cell phone minutes. Optimizations happen on a per game (or per game engine) basis. Improvements in one game don't necessarily mean improvements in another game.

well I meant like a game optimized in 6800 should be optimized for 6900 is what I meant.

 

[Skurge]

So quick question.. what driver was better the 10.1e or the 10.12's for flash player stability?

If you say 10.12's, you are wrong. So much for the latest driver theory.

Flash worked fine with both drivers. If you have every single component overclocked in your PC and god knows what else installed on your machine you can't always blame the drivers. You want proof that both worked fine for people who actually own AMD hardware. Go ahead and ask them, I don't know what you do with your PC that breaks 10 out 11 drivers you install, but regular user don't have half as many "issues" you get.

Also, there never was a 10.1e driver. get your facts straight.

 

[Wreckage]

Also, there never was a 10.1e driver. get your facts straight.

He probably meant 10.10e

 

[WelshBloke]

they will always have driver issues coz their not making use of profiles like nvidia. every game is coded differently with the profiles you can tweak every game coz it will react different with every code.

I have no idea why the profiles would matter but I am interested in what kind of pie Liu Kang is baking.

I need answers.

 

[busydude]

He probably meant 10.11e

There is no 10.11e either

 

[Copenhagen69]

There is no 10.11e either

LOL.

10.10e :thumbsup:

 

[3DVagabond]

why wouldnt they? Does it not rollover?

I'm not sure what you mean by "rollover". My point (and Skurge's) is that Metro and Crysis are listed as having improvements on the 6800 series, not the 6900.

 

[Wreckage]

There is no 10.11e either

The point is they have too many f$$$ing drivers.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/gpu88-catalyst-10-10e-hotfix.aspx


Also I hotfixed my post.

 

[Copenhagen69]

I'm not sure what you mean by "rollover". My point (and Skurge's) is that Metro and Crysis are listed as having improvements on the 6800 series, not the 6900.

Well I meant like if it works for the 6800 why not the 6900. Yes, I know they are different but it just seems stupid that it would improve one series but not another

 

[3DVagabond]

Well I meant like if it works for the 6800 why not the 6900

Completely different architecture.

 

[WelshBloke]

The point is they have too many f$$$ing drivers.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/gpu88-catalyst-10-10e-hotfix.aspx


Also I hotfixed my post.

How do you guys find these drivers?

 

[soccerballtux]

yeah gotta say I'm irritated that with my dual monitor setup I can't alt_tab while in UT3 and alt-tab back into game. Frustrating cause I do that a lot for responding to chats and stuff that friends send.

 

[Copenhagen69]

How do you guys find these drivers?

websites always have them in their news section when they are released ... :thumbsup:

yeah gotta say I'm irritated that with my dual monitor setup I can't alt_tab while in UT3 and alt-tab back into game. Frustrating cause I do that a lot for responding to chats and stuff that friends send.

Dang UT3? Thats old school