AMD 1.2 Over 46 C, Help.

[e-Spider]

Recently, my system has been crashing and I figured it's either CPU, Memory, or failed HDD. I figured it was the CPU since it's running consistently at 46C+ w/o any apps. With apps, it's over 50C. I have a global win on it. Is anyone else having problems w/ this CPU? I have reseated the hs & fan, but same thing. NO decrease in temp. I don't want to fry this AMD (not XP) cuz don't have any xtra $$ to spend on another processor.

Thanks,
e5p1der

 

[Pink0]

That's not a high temp for a thunderbird.

 

[e-Spider]

It has only been recently that it's been locking up. Bout 3-4 reboots a day now. I guess if that's not too high a temp, then maybe I'll get a new HDD to see if that's the problem. Thanks for the prompt response.

 

[EKAtBzboyz]

if you suspect temps try undervolting it
1.6v should be feasible

my tbird 1ghz is running at 1.45v right now

does it just freeze up or does it give a blue screen of death?

 

[Pink0]

Undervolting can cause stability issues itself so I wouldn't recommend that. If you really think it's heat related then you could try running it at a 100fsb instead of 133 for 900mhz and see how stability is then. It's likely something else though. I don't know why you'd suspect your hard drive. It could simply be software related or the result of a cheap power supply flaking out or ram. Try reseating everything in your system. What was the last thing that was changed before this started happening?

 

[EKAtBzboyz]

Originally posted by: Pink0
Undervolting can cause stability issues itself so I wouldn't recommend that. If you really think it's heat related then you could try running it at a 100fsb instead of 133 for 900mhz and see how stability is then. It's likely something else though. I don't know why you'd suspect your hard drive. It could simply be software related or the result of a cheap power supply flaking out or ram. Try reseating everything in your system. What was the last thing that was changed before this started happening?

actually most cpu can run at up to .1v under their default voltage given proper cooling
(sometimes more like mine )
mine@1.45v is rock stable, survived prime95+3dmark2k1 loops overnite so im happy

 

[JC]

Originally posted by: EKAtBzboyz

Originally posted by: Pink0
Undervolting can cause stability issues itself so I wouldn't recommend that. If you really think it's heat related then you could try running it at a 100fsb instead of 133 for 900mhz and see how stability is then. It's likely something else though. I don't know why you'd suspect your hard drive. It could simply be software related or the result of a cheap power supply flaking out or ram. Try reseating everything in your system. What was the last thing that was changed before this started happening?

actually most cpu can run at up to .1v under their default voltage given proper cooling
(sometimes more like mine )
mine@1.45v is rock stable, survived prime95+3dmark2k1 loops overnite so im happy

So, underclocking requires extra cooling???

As has been stated, 46-50C shouldn't be a prob.

JC

 

[Pink0]

yes, undervolting will cause stability issues even with the mose exotic cooling. The CPU requires a certain ammount of voltage to tell the difference between 1s and 0s. Excessive cooling will help with over volting but not undervolting. You just have a lucky chip. It's not particularly relevant here since he can just crank his FSB down to 100 anyway and heat likely isn't the culprit anyway.

 

[Pink0]

in my last post I meant extreme undervolting. Most chips can handle some undervolting.

 

[Necrolezbeast]

If it is RAM related then lowering the fsb might help that, thus from what you guys have said make him think it is the CPU when it could be either if the lwoer fsb fixes the problem. As everyone else said, those temps are definately not too high for the processor.

 

[Pink0]

If it is RAM related then lowering the fsb might help that, thus from what you guys have said make him think it is the CPU when it could be either if the lwoer fsb fixes the problem

He should be able to run the memory async.

 

[EKAtBzboyz]

oops my bad lol
i was deleting stuff out of the post and forgot to delete that little end bit saying "given proper cooling"

 

[Talon02]

46-50C is normal, 60+C you have a problem

 

[MadTom]

Your temps are OK. I think your problems are RAM related. Try Memtest86 which you can download here. Hope you still have a spare diskette...

 

[rogue1979]

If you lower your fsb to 100MHz, you can check the Ram and the cpu. Before you buy another hard drive, maybe you should try a reformat first? As suggested use memtest to check the integrity of the ram, and then use Prime95 to test the cpu at both 900MHz and 1200MHz, if you determine the ram is OK first.

 

[e-Spider]

Reason I don't think it's RAM is b/c I use Crucial. I presume those to be one of the best out there. I've tried lowering to 1.6v this AM & it seems to be doing fine. No lockups yet (knock on wood), but why are you all saying that the power supply might be the culprit? If it still powers up the system, why would it be the cause? Confused...?

 

[JSSheridan]

About the power supply, if you are drawing more power from the supply that the PSU is rated for, then you are going to have problems. As you place a greater load on the PSU, it's output voltage will drop until it falls below the tolerence limit. That will result in lockups, restarts, ect. A solid PSU is the foundation of your system, build on a rock. Peace.