Amazon stealing books again

[BladeVenom]

Amazon is once again using Kindle's draconian DRM to steal your books, even though they promised not to do it again after the 1984 incident. The victim of Amazons latest book burning crusade is incest themed fiction. http://theselfpublishingrevolution.blogspot.com/2010/12/amazon-in-book-banning-business.html

You have to love Big Brother.

 

[Drako]

Amazon is free to sell, or not sell what they want. No?

You can still buy your incest and pedo books elsewhere if you must.

 

[waggy]

Amazon is free to sell, or not sell what they want. No?

You can still buy your incest and pedo books elsewhere if you must.

no problem with them refusing to carry them. the problem is they sold them and are deleting them off your unit. that i do have a problem with.

also if they are going to stop incest and pedo books say goodbye to romeo and juliet, the bible, Lolita..etc

 

[Drako]

no problem with them refusing to carry them. the problem is they sold them and are deleting them off your unit. that i do have a problem with.

also if they are going to stop incest and pedo books say goodbye to romeo and juliet, the bible, Lolita..etc

If people are not smart enough to back up their Kindle books, I have no sympathy for them.

And again, Amazon is free to sell or not sell what they want to. I have no problem with them not selling any of the books you listed above .

 

[waggy]

If people are not smart enough to back up their Kindle books, I have no sympathy for them.

And again, Amazon is free to sell or not sell what they want to. I have no problem with them not selling any of the books you listed above .

why should a user have to back up teh books so that Amazon does not steal them? really there is no excuse for it.

 

[JTsyo]

As long as the users get a full refund, I wouldn't make a big stink.

 

[Narmer]

Did you buy an incest book, OP, and it was stolen from you by Amazon?

 

[BladeVenom]

Did you buy an incest book, OP, and it was stolen from you by Amazon?

I wouldn't buy a Kindle with it's DRM. Would you? Especially with Amazons record of stealing books from their customers.

 

[ShawnD1]

Did you buy an incest book, OP, and it was stolen from you by Amazon?

It was probably romeo and juliet. Juliet was only like 13 in that book.

They're actually doing you a favor. Shakespeare is unreadable shit.

 

[BladeVenom]

If people are not smart enough to back up their Kindle books, I have no sympathy for them.

What they did, again, is a violation of the settlement from the last time they stole customers books and got sued. They are the ones who are clearly in the wrong.

 

[sactoking]

Shakespeare is unreadable shit.

Blasphemy

 

[shortylickens]

Blasphemy

Fact. Shakespeare wrote scripts, not novels.
Am amazed at people who feel the need to read his work.

 

[Drako]

why should a user have to back up teh books so that Amazon does not steal them? really there is no excuse for it.

The books were not removed from the users Kindle device, they were removed from the Amazon archive. Stolen books from user not found.

 

[Exterous]

It is concerning that they are going into a device that you own and removing something that you bought. I haven't read the Kindle fine print to see if they actually consider it 'your's' or not. Personally I think it should be (I mean - you can buy the book without worrying if Borders or Amazon is going to break into your home to get it back) but the digital rights laws in this country are messed up

 

[Exterous]

The books were not removed from the users Kindle device, they were removed from the Amazon archive. Stolen books from user not found.

Hmm...I had assumed the 'archives' were just stored on the Kindle. Is this a remote storage on Amazon then? If so, it's pretty shitty of them but I have much less of a problem with that

 

[BladeVenom]

It doesn't matter where they are stored. People who paid for them, had them removed by Amazon.

From Amazon.com,
"Worry-Free Archive
Books you purchase from the Kindle Store are automatically backed up online in your Kindle library on Amazon. Re-download books wirelessly for free, anytime."

 

[Drako]

It doesn't matter where they are stored. People who paid for them, had them removed by Amazon.

From Amazon.com,
"Worry-Free Archive
Books you purchase from the Kindle Store are automatically backed up online in your Kindle library on Amazon. Re-download books wirelessly for free, anytime."

You should read the complete Amazon Kindle License Agreement and Terms of Use.

Otherwise, if it pisses you off so much, don't buy shit from Amazon Problem solved!

 

[BladeVenom]

You should read the complete Amazon Kindle License Agreement and Terms of Use.

You mean this part,"the Content Provider grants you a non-exclusive right to view, use, and display such Digital Content an unlimited number of times," which they seem to have violated by deleting books from peoples archives.

Otherwise, if it pisses you off so much, don't buy shit from Amazon Problem solved!

Don't worry I wouldn't ever trust them.

Why do you keep making up excuses for their dishonest and unethical behavior?

 

[Drako]

You mean this part,"the Content Provider grants you a non-exclusive right to view, use, and display such Digital Content an unlimited number of times," which they seem to have violated by deleting books from peoples archives.

No, this, and other statements in the terms of service.

"Changes to Service. Amazon reserves the right to modify, suspend, or discontinue the Service at any time, and Amazon will not be liable to you should it exercise such right."

In other words, too bad

Don't worry I wouldn't ever trust them.

So you just like to whine and complain about stuff that doesn't affect you?

Why do you keep making up excuses for their dishonest and unethical behavior?

I am still trying to figure out were this perceived "dishonest and unethical behavior" is, so I'm not sure why I would need to excuse it .

 

[Thump553]

Can you back up a Kindle book on your own? Personally I don't trust anyone else with exclusive control over my data-whether it be a book or my tax return.

Also, is Amazon offering refunds for books they once sold but are now denying access to?

 

[Drako]

Can you back up a Kindle book on your own?

Yes

Also, is Amazon offering refunds for books they once sold but are now denying access to?

No, the books in question have been removed from the Amazon servers so are no longer available for download as far as I know.

 

[lord_emperor]

"Changes to Service. Amazon reserves the right to modify, suspend, or discontinue the Service at any time, and Amazon will not be liable to you should it exercise such right."

I don't think Amazon has the "right" to enter into a contract with a clause that essentially says they can break said contract at any time for any reason.

Class action lawsuit inc.

 

[nageov3t]

ever since publishers put the screws to Amazon and made them sell new releases on kindle for more than the paper copy, mine's been gathering dust.

 

[shira]

The books were not removed from the users Kindle device, they were removed from the Amazon archive. Stolen books from user not found.

Amazon advertises that if a user purchases a Kindle book, and later deletes the book from their Kindle to free up space, the user can at any time re-download the book free of charge from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireles...rd_i=133141011

Worry-Free Archive
Books you purchase from the Kindle Store are automatically backed up online in your Kindle library on Amazon. Re-download books wirelessly for free, anytime.

In other words, Amazon is lying to prospective Kindle purchasers.

 

[shira]

You should read the complete Amazon Kindle License Agreement and Terms of Use.

Otherwise, if it pisses you off so much, don't buy shit from Amazon Problem solved!

Amazon cannot legally have terms of service contrary to its CURRENTLY ADVERTISED policies. If Amazon has changed its policy and is no longer promising that users can re-download any book they purchase, then they are subject to a lawsuit for false advertising.