Amazing Vid! George Galloway takes on the right wing media (Middle East Issues)

buggati

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I guess, but they rarely have this type of stuff on American TV. I would love to see Galloway destroy Bill O'Reilly on Fox.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: buggati
I guess, but they rarely have this type of stuff on American TV. I would love to see Galloway destroy Bill O'Reilly on Fox.

I don't really want to see anybody destroy anybody. I want people to listen with open minds and try to understand other people's points of view, study and acquire more and more pertinent facts.
 

kage69

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I wouldn't call that amazing persay, but he does bring up a number of good points.


George hasn't been in the news all that much lately, guess he was right about the 'smokescreen' our Congressmen performed with him awhile ago. Is it just me or does it look like he lost weight and got a tan?
 

firewall

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It has already made the rounds but it is nice to see atleast someone supporting the Lebanese openly.
 

morkinva

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Originally posted by: glenn beck
George Galloway is a terrorist, you retards....

Does that go for anyone who disagrees with the spoonfed pablum that passes for news or disagrees with us/israel hegemony?

This video is awesome :beer:
 

firewall

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Wonder when someone jumps in to say that Galloway is an anti-semite... or maybe that he was involved somehow in the holocaust... :disgust:

Or maybe he has links to Al-Qaeda...
 

Albatross

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Galloway
great guy!!!

When asked "Would the assassination of, say, Tony Blair by a suicide bomber - if there were no other casualties - be justified as revenge for the war on Iraq?" He is reported to have replied "Yes, it would be morally justified

If you are asking did I support the Soviet Union, yes I did. Yes, I did support the Soviet Union, and I think the disappearance of the Soviet Union is the biggest catastrophe of my life

Bush, and Blair, and the prime minister of Japan, and Berlusconi, these people are criminals, and they are responsible for mass murder in the world, for the war, and for the occupation, through their support for Israel, and through their support for a globalized capitalist economic system, which is the biggest killer the world has ever known. It has killed far more people than Adolph Hitler. It has killed far more people than George Bush. The economic system which these people support, which leaves most of the people in the world hungry, and without clean water to drink.


For me he is the last Arab ruler, and Syria is the last Arab country. It is the fortress of the remaining dignity of the Arabs, and that's why I'm proud to be here."
Referring to president Bashar al-Assad.

What a silly question, what a silly person you are! Hizbollah is winning the war you can see on the other half of the screen

:laugh:
one can hate bush and ingnore this guy.but after 8 years of bush ,i guess the leftists are desperate.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: buggati
I guess, but they rarely have this type of stuff on American TV. I would love to see Galloway destroy Bill O'Reilly on Fox.

I don't really want to see anybody destroy anybody. I want people to listen with open minds and try to understand other people's points of view, study and acquire more and more pertinent facts.
Moonbeam, bizarre though he may be, is often right. Many modern leftists are as bad as the "right wing propagandists" they hate so much. Everything is about "destroying" the other side. Buggati, you and your pathetic ilk are so intent on being on the "winning" side that you don't care about being on the correct side.

It's silly to see the left go on about how awful the warmongers on the right are, and then spew hate filled reams of text about how they hate people who hate. Ironic, no?
 

yllus

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His first point is pretty silly - it's Israel invading Lebanon, not Lebanon invading Israel? What is his alternative action when the UN peacekeeping force whose specific goal is to prevent this has consistently failed for 6 years, the UN motion to disarm Hezbollah specifically in 2004 has gone unnoticed and rockets are shot over into Israel daily from Lebanon? Any military textbook in the world will tell you the answer is to carve out a buffer zone to prevent that from further occuring.

Second point - thousands of Lebanese have been captured by Israel? Like Samir Qantar, "serving several life sentences for murder after attacking a civilian apartment block in Nahariya in 1979. A policeman, another man and his four-year-old daughter were killed." What a nice fellow they want back. Are we to assume that Hezbollah will then charge him with the same crimes and try him again? Somehow I don't see it happening.

"In most's people's eyes, Israel is a terrorist state." Not in mine.

Cheering on Hezbollah and saying they're handing Israeli troops "a bloody good hiding?" How nice.

Mr. Galloway sure likes to bluster on about Hezbollah and Palestinian prisoners taken by Israel, and somehow fails to mention why that action was taken. He also fails to mention why Israel took that land in 1967 - did they just explode out of nowhere and run around gathering up new lands? I seem to recall a little more happening there.

How did he take on the "right wing media" at all - let alone win? Since when is "the left" sharing this guy's views on this war? Don't try to spin this into a right versus left issue, sonny boy. It's simpler than that.
 

dahunan

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Why would a suicide bomber who only finished off Tony Blair be immoral?

You people are nuts sometimes.. what Americans or British did the people of Iraq kill before we chose to pre-emptively attack them?
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Why would a suicide bomber who only finished off Tony Blair be immoral?

You people are nuts sometimes.. what Americans or British did the people of Iraq kill before we chose to pre-emptively attack them?
So by your circular logic, if the suicide bomber is justified in blowing up Blair, then the US is justified in being in Iraq. :confused:
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: dahunan
Why would a suicide bomber who only finished off Tony Blair be immoral?

You people are nuts sometimes.. what Americans or British did the people of Iraq kill before we chose to pre-emptively attack them?
So by your circular logic, if the suicide bomber is justified in blowing up Blair, then the US is justified in being in Iraq. :confused:

Can you read?

Blowing up one person.. or blowing up only the real enemy *the man did not say anything about blowing any innocents...

.. Let the Chinese pre-emptively invade your neighborhood because we have WMD's and see how quick you are to side with them
 

kage69

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He does make a good point on how media outlets don't just fight to control the answers, but the questions themselves. Sky looks a shade less scummy than FOX, but I'm sure that's just due to me seeing less of it.
I don't approve of Galloway's chummy relationship with Ba'athists, or a few other shall we say eccentric positions, but I don't feel that washes Israels hands clean of all it's done in the area either.
If both the US and Israel have a history of 'targetted killings,' I think it's hypocritical to say it's barbaric for someone to suggest the other side employ similar tactics.

I wonder what we'd all be talking about had Israel really fully pulled out of Lebanon long ago.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: dahunan
Why would a suicide bomber who only finished off Tony Blair be immoral?

You people are nuts sometimes.. what Americans or British did the people of Iraq kill before we chose to pre-emptively attack them?
So by your circular logic, if the suicide bomber is justified in blowing up Blair, then the US is justified in being in Iraq. :confused:

Can you read?

Blowing up one person.. or blowing up only the real enemy *the man did not say anything about blowing any innocents...

.. Let the Chinese pre-emptively invade your neighborhood because we have WMD's and see how quick you are to side with them

Can you read?

There is no "real enemy". Enemies are all perceived. Demons invented by those who want power. Is Blair really the enemy of Muslims? Or are Muslim extremists the enemy?

You're as bad the Republicans that can only see in black and white.
 

novon

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Galloway is always a wave of truth that washes up the misconceptions and the hidden lies of politicians, gonvernments, and the media.
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: buggati
I guess, but they rarely have this type of stuff on American TV. I would love to see Galloway destroy Bill O'Reilly on Fox.

I don't really want to see anybody destroy anybody. I want people to listen with open minds and try to understand other people's points of view, study and acquire more and more pertinent facts.
Moonbeam, bizarre though he may be, is often right. Many modern leftists are as bad as the "right wing propagandists" they hate so much. Everything is about "destroying" the other side. Buggati, you and your pathetic ilk are so intent on being on the "winning" side that you don't care about being on the correct side.

It's silly to see the left go on about how awful the warmongers on the right are, and then spew hate filled reams of text about how they hate people who hate. Ironic, no?



By "destroying" he means to make a fool out of the opposition that is spewing lies and half-truths... There is nothing wrong with wanting that. Your post is completely nonsensical... the whole thing is one big generalization. Obnoxious
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: buggati
I guess, but they rarely have this type of stuff on American TV. I would love to see Galloway destroy Bill O'Reilly on Fox.

I don't really want to see anybody destroy anybody. I want people to listen with open minds and try to understand other people's points of view, study and acquire more and more pertinent facts.
Moonbeam, bizarre though he may be, is often right. Many modern leftists are as bad as the "right wing propagandists" they hate so much. Everything is about "destroying" the other side. Buggati, you and your pathetic ilk are so intent on being on the "winning" side that you don't care about being on the correct side.

It's silly to see the left go on about how awful the warmongers on the right are, and then spew hate filled reams of text about how they hate people who hate. Ironic, no?



By "destroying" he means to make a fool out of the opposition that is spewing lies and half-truths... There is nothing wrong with wanting that. Your post is completely nonsensical... the whole thing is one big generalization. Obnoxious

A fool convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. Shakespeare knew this 400 years ago. What do you win when all you get is making somebody look like a fool? Why do you suggest it's not wrong. Look at the difference between being wrong as in looking like a fool and wrong as in not being effective. In this Arab Israeli thingi I should thing the point should be, not whose right or wrong, but how do we get to peace. How do we bring people who want to kill each other to want to live in peace. It can't happen without respect for the other side. That's going to require seeing the other as being as human as you see yourself to be, no? It seems to me that being dispassionate about the truth is the only way that's going to really happen. Fortunately, with kids, bitter enemies can and do very often become fast friends and we are certainly all children, it seems to me.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: buggati
I guess, but they rarely have this type of stuff on American TV. I would love to see Galloway destroy Bill O'Reilly on Fox.

I don't really want to see anybody destroy anybody. I want people to listen with open minds and try to understand other people's points of view, study and acquire more and more pertinent facts.
Moonbeam, bizarre though he may be, is often right. Many modern leftists are as bad as the "right wing propagandists" they hate so much. Everything is about "destroying" the other side. Buggati, you and your pathetic ilk are so intent on being on the "winning" side that you don't care about being on the correct side.

It's silly to see the left go on about how awful the warmongers on the right are, and then spew hate filled reams of text about how they hate people who hate. Ironic, no?



By "destroying" he means to make a fool out of the opposition that is spewing lies and half-truths... There is nothing wrong with wanting that. Your post is completely nonsensical... the whole thing is one big generalization. Obnoxious

I know exactly what he meant by destroying. And just like our being in Iraq fans the flames of terrorism, so would this Galloway "destroying" some conservative talking head require the conservatives to fire back until they "destroyed" Galloway. All in the name of ego.

When your violent, prehistoric brain can comprehend the parallel, come back and we'll talk.
 

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Galloway is a piece of sh*t simply because he consistently sides with terrorists against free people who simply want to live and act to defend themselves. Arab self determination, whatever, that doesn't excuse the deliberate targeting of civilians.