Amanda Gorman vs. Francis Scott Key

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Amanda Gorman penned "The Hill We Climb"
Francis Scott Key penned "The Star Spangled Banner"
Both are renowned poets.
One owned slaves. The other descended from slaves.

From "The Star Spangled Banner":

...
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
Over the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh say, does that star spangled banner yet wave
Over the land of the free and the home of the brave?

From "The Hill We Climb":

We’ve braved the belly of the beast.
We’ve learned that quiet isn’t always peace,
And the norms and notions of what ‘just is’
Isn’t always justice.
...
And yet the dawn is ours before we knew it.
Somehow, we do it.
Somehow, we’ve weathered and witnessed
A nation that isn’t broken, but simply unfinished

One of these poems has been banned by a school in Florida. A SINGLE PARENT wrote a complaint alleging that the poem was “not educational and have indirectly hate messages” and should be removed from schools, lest it "cause confusion and indoctrinate students." This parent cited the above excerpt as their sole proof.

Where is the hate message?
Where is the indoctrination?

Did you listen to or read "The Hill We Climb" and conclude that Amanda Gorman hates America? Was it controversial when she performed it at Biden's Inauguration? Did the Fox News crowd blast her poem as divisive, hateful, or "indoctrination"??

Now ask yourself why one of these poems should be banned, while the other is played before every school sporting event and has likely been memorized by every student.

And now try to convince me that America (or at least some inferior states) isn't racist to it's rotten core.

 
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HomerJS

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Solace??? SOLACE???

That ONE racist moron can wield this influence?
Yes, with the backing of a racist party

Any reporter that has an upcoming interview with the meatball, read the poem to him and ask, "where's the indoctrination"? Compared to the SSB it would be an interesting debate.
 

HomerJS

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Oh, I know the difference ... pick me! pick me! pick me!
The answer is, The Hill We Climb had the word "justice" and it was written by a black woman.

Both of those irk the sensibilities of the right. I find it amazing that a party who actively supports White Nationalists yet has a problem with DEI wonder why they have a problem with the minority vote.
 

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And how exactly do they 'ban' the poem? Do they restrict the kids from reading it somehow? Do they even remember the 1st amendment exists?
 

HomerJS

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And how exactly do they 'ban' the poem? Do they restrict the kids from reading it somehow? Do they even remember the 1st amendment exists?
The poem was banned at a Florida public school. The same types of public schools where black history is being banned. Why are lessons on Ruby Bridges being eliminated?

Your justification for that is...? These are schools where lessons are "taught" to children.
 

cytg111

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I see a win-win on the horizon, Florida is pretty much going tits up over the next century climate change and all... So if you could collect and isolate all the white super freaks there... (and wall them in?), problem solved?
 
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I see a win-win on the horizon, Florida is pretty much going tits up over the next century climate change and all... So if you could collect and isolate all the white super freaks there... (and wall them in?), problem solved?

I'm praying they continue to ignore climate change and the whole damn cesspool drowns in the ocean. Texas too.
 
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HomerJS

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Did anyone know it was equally Amanda Gormans fault her poem was banned? Cause too muck black
 
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Oh, I know the difference ... pick me! pick me! pick me!
Settle down, Horshack! :p

And how exactly do they 'ban' the poem? Do they restrict the kids from reading it somehow? Do they even remember the 1st amendment exists?
They won't have it on shelves in the school. I wouldn't put it past them to "discipline" students who bring it in themselves or even discuss it amongst themselves in class.
 
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Vic

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Re-read the poem after seeing this controversy. It's all about peace, love and unity, and literally nothing else. So...
Conservatism is the ideology that peace, love, and unity are instruments of hate and oppression.
 

MrSquished

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We should start gofundme's for sane minded folks that need to get the fuck out of red state shithole people land
 
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