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AM2 or not??

I have a 4 year old 1.6GHZ Northwood and looking to upgrade. I know AM2 does not have an upper hand over s939 (just 3-5%), until maybe the 60 nms AMD comes out , but am really intersted in the "Virtualization" technology that AM2 brings to the table. Just imagining about able to run 2 OS simultaneously is kinda interesting. I am not any real in a hurry or something. Thoughts!!
 
Eventually you'll be forced to upgrade if you're going to run vista.. you'll find your old system is too slow. Thats just life and there isn't much you can do unless you like running xp for the next 5-10 years.. product life cycle, etc.

start saving.. you'll have money for good stuff when it comes out
 
don't upgrade yet, wait for for for the second release of chipsets for AM2 mobos, when they get all the bugs worked out. 1st gen tech is for suckers

you can most likely pop in a 2.4 northwood that lists for $129 on pricewatch, that should last you until early next year, and give you a good second system to have to do whatever.
 
Originally posted by: gotsmack
don't upgrade yet, wait for for for the second release of chipsets for AM2 mobos, when they get all the bugs worked out. 1st gen tech is for suckers

you can most likely pop in a 2.4 northwood that lists for $129 on pricewatch, that should last you until early next year, and give you a good second system to have to do whatever.

Yup if you REALLY REALLY want to upgrade, get a 2.4 northwood, a XP-90, a decent 90mm fan and OC the northwood (one of Intels last GOOD chips)
 
First and foremost, I would like to thank all the people for their opinions. On the outset, it looks like a no brainer to wait for the AM2(especially since I can wait). The only reason I asked was that I wanted to jump on the s939 opty bandwagon(talk about value for ur money) and I don't want to miss out on that. I don't think AMD will come out with the equivalent of the s939 optys for AM2(insanely OCable), hence my confusion.
 
I'm just getting a 939 opteron. Reasons?

#1. DDR2 = bad price/performance ratio
#2. New sockets usually cost alot to begin with
#3. Opterons overclock so high
#4. My comp is beginning to die, so I don't have much of a choice 😛
 
Originally posted by: Crescent13
I'm just getting a 939 opteron. Reasons?

#1. DDR2 = bad price/performance ratio
#2. New sockets usually cost alot to begin with
#3. Opterons overclock so high
#4. My comp is beginning to die, so I don't have much of a choice 😛

939 ftw!

 
it all depends how often you want to upgrade. it's dumb to wait on a new socket and say "oooh, it'll be more future proof." Well, if you only upgrade every 2-3 years, it wont matter much anyways. chances are there will be a new socket out or you'll be upgrading entirely. there will ALWAYS be something better coming out. waiting just leads to more waiting. buying now gets you your stuff.
 
Here is one more option adding to the confusion. Get an opty 170 now and wait for AM2 release which should drive down the prices of s939 chipsets and hence mobos(hoping to
get a DFI expert or A8N32 for 150$) and get a G71 with the money I save( hopefully G71s should be out by then).
 
Originally posted by: Mik3y
it all depends how often you want to upgrade. it's dumb to wait on a new socket and say "oooh, it'll be more future proof." Well, if you only upgrade every 2-3 years, it wont matter much anyways. chances are there will be a new socket out or you'll be upgrading entirely. there will ALWAYS be something better coming out. waiting just leads to more waiting. buying now gets you your stuff.

I had the same exact thoughts before and I almost pulled the trigger on an opty 170. But I read in MaximumPC that AM2 is bringing in the "Virtualization". Imagine this, you are working on the PC doing some geeky stuff on a Linux distribution and ur GF/wife wants to use the PC. You have to power down the PC and boot into windows for her to work on. But with the "virtualization" maybe you do some key combinations like a KVM swtich or something(at this point I dont know how this stuff works)and voila you are into windows without you powering down the PC and booting into windows.
 
Originally posted by: gotsmack
don't upgrade yet, wait for for for the second release of chipsets for AM2 mobos, when they get all the bugs worked out. 1st gen tech is for suckers

you can most likely pop in a 2.4 northwood that lists for $129 on pricewatch, that should last you until early next year, and give you a good second system to have to do whatever.
To a degree, maybe. My experience doesn't back that up, though. I have had the sort of bugs you speak of in components that should have been well established and stable, and I haven't had any problems with my AMD Athlon 64 X2 setup which I bought the components for as soon as they were available on Newegg for the first time.
 
I wouldn't bet the farm on that "virtualization" option being a holy grail...will probably REALLY slow down the processor...
 
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: gotsmack
don't upgrade yet, wait for for for the second release of chipsets for AM2 mobos, when they get all the bugs worked out. 1st gen tech is for suckers

you can most likely pop in a 2.4 northwood that lists for $129 on pricewatch, that should last you until early next year, and give you a good second system to have to do whatever.
To a degree, maybe. My experience doesn't back that up, though. I have had the sort of bugs you speak of in components that should have been well established and stable, and I haven't had any problems with my AMD Athlon 64 X2 setup which I bought the components for as soon as they were available on Newegg for the first time.

most of the time 1st generation bugs are problems with motherboards, meaning the chipsets actually.
 
So buy an ASRock board and a cheap opty now, then buy the AM2 riser card and a new cpu when you decide you need to run windows and linux. Price wise, the combo can't be beat. Just remember the ASRock is a value board, if you want to drive an Opty till it bleads you won't be happy with ASRock.
 
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