AM2 motherboard - get a X2 6400 now?

[StevenNevets]

Right now I'm on a regular AM2 motherboard and a X2 3800.

I noticed that the 6400's arn't on newegg or tigerdirect anymore.
I'd order here if I got one.
http://www.egoodz.com/product....pf_id=AMD_ADX6400CZWOF


I was planning on waiting till around December for a cpu/gpu upgrade and still plan on doing so for the gpu.

But sense this is dissapearing...





Is this the best option for me or will there be something better within the next 5 months (compatible with AM2 motherboards)?




-don't plan on overclocking but it's a posibility

 

[SlowSpyder]

Personally I'd probably grab a 5000+ BE and overclock it. Are you sure your motherboard will work with the 125+ watt processors?

I still see it on Newegg, here.

 

[error8]

I had the same dilemma two weeks ago. But since 6000+ and 6400+ are quite pricey for the performance they give, I've spent a couple of dollars more and changed the whole platform, bought a e7200+P35 mobo, that give me more performance than any of those two AMD cpus , not to mention what performance I got after some overclocking.

As I see it, right now for an AM2 motherboard you can get the 5000+ BE and overclock it to 3,2-3,3 ghz and buy yourself some time until December. That's the best bang for the buck in AMD's camp right now.

 

[aigomorla]

Ack no overclocking?

i dont see anything wrong in that chip.

However maybe a low voltage AMD might be a better solution as they run cooler and use less electricity?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819103255


This one looks very yummy.

 

[TuxDave]

I was in the same boat and I just decided to just go grab a $70 X2 5400+ that I spotted on Newegg. (from a X2 3800+). I did see the 6400+ but for $170 I'd rather just go to Fry's and pick up a mobo and cheap Intel processor and work my way with that. I'd rather spend a little more on the gpu.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: TuxDave
I was in the same boat and I just decided to just go grab a $70 X2 5400+ that I spotted on Newegg. (from a X2 3800+). I did see the 6400+ but for $170 I'd rather just go to Fry's and pick up a mobo and cheap Intel processor and work my way with that. I'd rather spend a little more on the gpu.

yeah i cant disagree with you on this statement.

However he said he would do little to no overclocking.

Then i would go with what would work. Which is why i recomended the lower voltage cpu.

:\

 

[StevenNevets]

Yea I see it on newegg now, pretty sure it wasn't earlier.



Here's my motherboard.
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/x..._TYPE=INFINITY&SITE=US



I'm not going to switch over to Intel. I'm really satisfied with everything and having an extra motherboard and cpu doesn't seem very appealing right now.

I just want more speed.





Is this it?
As in will there never be anything faster (at default speeds)?

Or should I be considering the quad-cores?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: StevenNevets
Yea I see it on newegg now, pretty sure it wasn't earlier.



Here's my motherboard.
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/x..._TYPE=INFINITY&SITE=US



I'm not going to switch over to Intel. I'm really satisfied with everything and having an extra motherboard and cpu doesn't seem very appealing right now.

I just want more speed.





Is this it?
As in will there never be anything faster (at default speeds)?

Or should I be considering the quad-cores?

Read my sig.

Im playing with a 9850BE right now. Its not bad. Of course my other 2 girls would probably haze it worse then a drinking frat would do to pledges, however if you take all of them not overclocked, the phenom isnt that bad.

Only problem is there uber picky with boards. So becareful.

 

[StevenNevets]

Originally posted by: aigomorla



Read my sig.

Im playing with a 9850BE right now. Its not bad. Of course my other 2 girls would probably haze it worse then a drinking frat would do to pledges, however if you take all of them not overclocked, the phenom isnt that bad.

Only problem is there uber picky with boards. So becareful.

What exactly am I looking for in your sig?
I see the water cooling guide and some specs.


That's cool the Phenoms are decent, they still bugged though?



One thing that's worth noting is Crysis runs a good bit better on the X2 6400 than the Phenoms and that's the main game I'm going for.


Will the X2 6400 ever be topped? Still wondering, guessing not sense they're on Phenoms now.
And whens the next line of Phenoms coming?

I havn't had much time to keep up with this stuff lately.

 

[angry hampster]

Get the 4850e linked above. You can overclock it easily to 2.9GHz with minor increases in voltage. The extra premium for the 6000 series processors is not worth it at all, especially considering the heat output and power consumption.


However, even at stock speeds it will run Crysis fine. I had a 4850 until April running at 3.0GHz.

 

[robmurphy]

I have the 4850E on a Gigabyte 780G uATX MB. Its running with at 3.0 Gig, using a 240 Meg FSB. Its running very stable and cool. The 4850E has not been out long so will probably be around longer than the 6400. I gave details of the overclock I did in the following post:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=28&threadid=2190905

I'm in the UK and none of the suppliers here list the 5000 BE anymore, they show it as discontinued. I do not know what the situation is with these processors in the US. Toms hardware did a review on the 5000 BE. Please see:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/...tion,review-29679.html

The 5000 BE would be a better bet for overclocking as it has an unlocked multplier. As far as I know the 5000 BE does not come with a heatsink.

Rob.

 

[heyheybooboo]

No OC: X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz AM2 65W BE $87
Simply switch the cpu multi to 14 to get 2.8GHz at stock volts and cpu clock (200MHz) which brings your RAM to DDR800 spec (don't ask - LOL)

No OC: If available: OEM X2 5400+ 2.8GHz AM2 65w Brisbane $83
Not on cpu support list, anyway ...


DFI CPU support for your mobo

 

[StevenNevets]

I guess it's either

X2 4850e
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819103255

or X2 5000
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819103194


Exact same price.
4850e has a heatsink and lower voltage but lower clock speed.

Which would you go for?


2.8-3.1 GHz would be nice. Could the regular 4850e heatsink pull that off?




I've never overclocked before so I'm not sure about the limits of each cpu, effects of heatsinks, ect.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: StevenNevets
What exactly am I looking for in your sig?

ErinYes, = AMD Spider

AMD Spider:
Phenom Class CPU <-- my case im running a 9850BE
AMD 790FX Board <--- ASUS M3A-MVP DLX/WiFi
HD3870's x 2 <-- took apart persephone's gpu temporary to play with spider.


That is a spider platform. So i was trying to show you, ive played with phenoms. Stick with the dualcore unless you really need quadcore. AMD quads just arent up to scale. :T

My recomendation still goes with 4850e. As i said its a dayam cool running chip, and it draws piss to nothing power. That would actually be an upgrade for ya, cuz the 3800+ should do near what the 5000+ should show almost no difference since they both should overclock simular, unless you got a really good chip for one and really bad chip for the other.

 

[robmurphy]

If you check the link I gave you'll see that I used a HSF from a S939 CPU with a TDP of 89W. The older HSF was much more substantial than the one with the 4850E. As I already had it and its the same fitment I used it. Running at 3.0 Gig on 1.3 V core voltage and Prime 95 running on both cores I get 41 - 42 C with a room temp of 22 - 24 C.

Rob

 

[solog]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
No OC: If available: OEM X2 5400+ 2.8GHz AM2 65w Brisbane $83
Not on cpu support list, anyway ...

saw that and it looks like a good price. Shows up as deactivated item now