Am I the only "lucky" computer user in existance?????

Cougar

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I've got this in the off-topic forum, so hopefully it doesn't get nuked. Anyways, I was just sitting here surfing around and I was wondering what exactly is it that everyone does to their computers that makes them crash, whereas mine don't seem to hardly ever crash? I'm not posting this to gloat or anything, but it just seems that more and more lately people are just tearing microsoft a new one because of all their "buggy" operating systems and how you always have to re-boot a dozen times a day just to use the machine.

I have used Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows 2000 and on my own machines they hardly ever crash, and I've done everything from hacking the registry to overclocking the machine and I still don't really suffer from any problems (except for the occasional program crash here and there). So what are people doing with their systems that causes them to be so unstable?

I realize that the hardware has alot to do with it (I've been through my share of athlon/via pains) but I just can't figure out what people have against microsoft and they keep accusing them of having buggy software.

So what is it guys? Why does everyone hold a grudge against microsoft and accuse them of buggy software when in fact all their programs seem to run fine for me? Surely I can't be the only one that has no major problems with their computer.
 

Cougar

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joohang....

Ah, so I'm not alone.....I'm sure there must be some other people out there that don't have problems with their computer. C'mon people....speak up!!!
 

yakko

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My new one crashes more than my old one but it still doesn't do it that much.
 

Sukhoi

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The only time my Win98SE ever crashes is when I'm playing games, so I'm not even sure if that's the OSes fault or not. I do reboot once a day though. :)
 

Cougar

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yakko...

what kind of hardware is in your new system and what kind of hardware was in your old system?
 

Viperoni

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Nope, I can honestly say my Win2k server is rock solid, my WinME game box not so much so, but still very good.
 

joohang

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The only BSOD's I experienced were 99% hardware trouble. Either defective hardware, buggy chipset/BIOS, or improper hardware configuration.

IMHO, if it's not an hardware issue, it depends on the computer user. I try to always test shareware on a different machine or on a different partition before I install it on my main OS. Microsoft software are not perfect and they do have bugs, but they are not as bad as people describe it.
 

Namuna

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BAH! What are you talkin about? First you say you hardly ever crash, then you talk about having your own thing with Athlon/VIA and so on.

You have about the same amount of problems as everyone else, you've just accepted them as a part of computer life.

On the other hand, I ABSOLUTELY believe that some people are CURSED (due in part to their own mishandling of equipment). There are specific people that I support at work and it's quite interesting that they keep having THE SAME EXACT problem arise over and over.
 

Cougar

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Sukhoi...

It's basically the same thing for me. I have programs crash every now and then, but for me they hardly ever take down the operating system. I did have a screen saver kill Win2k, but these kind of instances are few and far between.
 

Cougar

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Namuna...

Perhaps I should have been a little clearer. Let me try and set this straight. I personally have all intel based systems and virtually have no problems. I have built athlon/via systems for other people and have had problems, but it was related to the hardware and not the software (or at least not the OS...you can't really blame 3rd party drivers on microsoft). The point I'm trying to make is that windows itself runs perfectly fine, and yet people don't miss one opporunity to rip on microsoft for their buggy OS. You follow?
 

joohang

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Namuna,

Were you talking to me?

<< I ABSOLUTELY believe that some people are CURSED (due in part to their own mishandling of equipment). >>

I built a system for my friend back in June of last year. It's an Athlon 700 on Asus K7V (KX133). It crashes SOOO MUCH. I feel horrible for him. I still gotta try to isolate the problem.

I was so impressed with its performance, but it sure loves to crash.
 

MikeO

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I'm one of those &quot;lucky&quot; people too, with a working Microsoft OS. My Win98 (with 1000000 gigabytes of patches :)) hardly ever crashes. 99% of the crashes come from bad software,
I use/try a LOT of programs.

The best solution so far (IMHO) to prevent Windoze from crashing is McAfee UnInstaller.
It just works like a dream. After I installed that, all crashes and slow-down prob's were gone.

It's a pain-in-the-ass OS to keep working, but sweet one when it does work. Linux is a so mucho
pain-in-the-ass-all-the-time OS for me, 'cause I dont have months of free time just learning
it. Tried RedHat once..... I still have occasional nightmare about that.
 

My 2k does not crash.
Thats the bottom line.
How people have problems?
They use bad software, don't update their patches and OS.
And well, main thing is that they don't know what they are doing.
:)
 

tim0thy

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mine doesn't crash very often either... my work machine or my laptop. i think the thing is stability, if you don't mess with it too much, windows is generally an ok OS. btw, i use win2k on both.
 

Namuna

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Don't be so quick to blame AMD/VIA...Though I gotta agree a little about VIA having issues here and there.

My home box has been running ABSOLUTELY solid. It's Athlon/VIA based machine as well, with Win2k on it. But I attribute this to my choice in parts (buying known stable versus high perf equip).

But I agree, to and extent, that a lot of people use Microsoft as their scapegoat...Undeservingly.

 

Facin

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For generic use, I don't know why people have problems. I run into problems in two categories: programming and games. Programming is understandable, but games can become a major pain in the butt. Anytime you are pushing the hardware envelope with your software, you run the risk of problems. This does not mean necessarily that you are pushing the hardware limit...you need to be pushign the limit via software. If you are oc'ing your processor and then running Notepad, it is goign to be pretty reliable. If you put together a couple of machines that are clustered using some new server clustering software, you are pushing the envelope with the software. If that setup has not bugs...you are one very lucky users. Also, if you you software made by low-grade developers, you will run into problems.
 

Delusion2001

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well, i could clean install win2k on my system and just go to web pages (anandtech),a nd it wouldn't crash

however, so far on win2k i have nto had any crashes. it just really depends on what you do
 

NaughtyusMaximus

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My own computer is stable as possible, running Win2k.
My mother's computer on the other had (which I am not allowed to touch) crashes on her after a max of 30 minutes of use (running Win98SE). I origonally set her computer up so that it was free of problems, so what it does now is simply from average use.
 

Lvis

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The only time I have a problem with this machine, is when my seven year old gets on it..... I can't get it to misbehave if I try..
 

Pepsi90919

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Explorer ALWAYS crashes on me when I close all my browser windows, forcing me to Log Off/Log On to get my systray icons back. :(

I find Win98 UNPATCHED is more stable than patched. They don't test their patches like they should.