Am I on an RC-5 team or have I been demoted?

[Tripleshot]

I have checked all my clients and none of them are cracking RC-5 code now. Why do i feel pissed off? When I joined Team Anandtech,I joined RC-5 and the goals that where set by our team members to beat our rivals. Is Dnet now dictating to me what service my machines are going to perform?Without asking me? WTF!!!

35 days I have my machines on 24/7 and without notice the contest rules are changed? I want some GDamn answers!

 

[dvch]

You said it.

 

[BurntKooshie]

you have complete control over what the client does. By default they are set to do OGR BEFORE RC5. All you had to do was put RC5 as a higher precedanec than OGR, and it would crunch RC5 till the cows came home

Its not their fault, its the fault of our members for not making sure that everyone else was aware of this as we know many that are RC5 crackheads

I am sorry for not making sure people knew of this client configuration.

 

[Jator]

DNet participates in several projects. You have the option of choosing which projects by configuring your clients. Most people just install the client and don't notice that OGR is loaded ahead of Rc5 by default. Best thing to do is configure the client the way you want it when you first install, thus you avoid these tyoes of problems.

In other words, I've been there, dealth with that. (Can anyone say CSC?!? ).

 

[Tripleshot]

BurntKooshie

Well,I will do that but Virge seems elated to be doing this org thing.Are we splitting up the team now? Then what are the chances of beating /.? I will go with the collective flow,but if we are devided,let the debate begin!!

 

[ViRGE]

Ya, it's more our fault than yours. We(ok ok, it's all BK's fault) didn't take OGR into account when creating the main FAQ, so it'll start OGR on it's own. Sorry about that, and a new FAQ will be in the works to fix it.

 

[Jator]

Trip,

TeamAnandTech consists of DCypher (Gamma Flux), Seti, and DNet (RC5 and now OGR). THe nice thing is that we are always close to the top of all the projects, not just one or 2 like some other teams. In other words, we kick arse on several Distributed Computing Fronts!!!

 

[dawks]

Odd, I always checked that. I set my client to run RC5, then ORG.
I come to my system this moring, its running ORG.. hmm..

 

[ViRGE]

Personally Tripleshot, I'm sticking with RC5. I'm more interested in OGR because it's a fresh contest for us to beat everyone in, and we have the resources to change a cow here and there over to it, and still maintain the lead in RC5. It's really more of a diversification than anything else.

 

[Russ]

Tripleshot,

I completely agree with you. The fact that we can change the priorities and disable OGR is not the issue. We received ZERO notification and suddenly find that our machines are doing OGR at the expense of RC5.

Right now, because Two is on vacation and can't have the changes entered at his labs, a VERY high volume of RC5 blocks are NOT being cracked.

Many of us have busted our asses on this thing to get TA within shooting distance of the number one spot, and to have this suddenly sprung upon us without advance notification makes no sense at all.

Russ, NCNE

 

[BurntKooshie]

Basically, here, the rule of thumb to live by is this: work on the distributed computing project you like or want. Debating it is more than useless, its a sore spot in the hearts of some of us, as some feel passionately about S@H, others about GF, others still about RC5. If YOU want to do RC5, DO IT. There will be others there to help you, and there will be others there to compete with.

This leads to another point: Sure, ViRGE was the first "Elite member" for people who are constantly in this forum, but that DOESN'T technically make him our "leader." I repsect ViRGE for his intellect, personality, and gernerally speaking, his maturity. You don't HAVE to follow what he says Lord knows, if I did that, I'd still be typing on a Cyrix :Q.

Do I feel cheated that some of my 'net friends have chosen to do a project that has just started while I am (mostly) sticking to my roots and staying with RC5? Not at all. I still get along with them, they'll still help me out, they'll still come on to IRC all the time, and still the SAME TEAM SPIRIT as long as no one says that doing one project is utterly useless as compared to another one. While it may be true (I have my own opinions, which I will keep to myself), arguing that its going to "break up the team" ends up bringing more people to the brink of litterally breaking away from the team than does just letting them do the project that they want to do.

To each their own.

 

[office boy]

<< THe nice thing is that we are always close to the top of all the projects, not just one or 2 like some other teams. >>


And just how does TA Seti fit into this? we just got passed #20 for club teams, that?s still #43 Total.
TA Seti is the redheaded stepchild of Anandtech

 

[Russ]

DaZ,

Add the following to the ini:

[misc]
project-priority=RC5,OGR=0,DES=0,CSC=0

It will eliminate any possibility of these other things stepping on RC5.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Russ]

BurntKooshie,

I'm not concerned about the merits of each of the clients. I like RC5, others like SETI, still others GF. And, now for some, OGR. That's all fine. My gripe is that dnet suddenly shows up and says &quot;oh, btw, you rc5 guys are all doing OGR now.&quot; I DON'T like surprises.

A lot of RC5 blocks, my CHOSEN project, are going to be lost over the next few days because 2/3's of TA Cube is working on another project that we don't want to do.

Russ, NCNE

 

[BurntKooshie]

To everyone ticked about the suddeness of it, I agree, a little notice would have been nice, but, seeing as how we didn't get it (lets try to make sure that we get it next time a switch occurs - but please, lets do it nicely?), why not take a positive look at it? If you crunch some OGR, then you're getting the project done sooner, and getting the team back to RC5 faster.

Once in awhile, I try to be optimistic...guess this is one of them

 

[Xede]

I remember taking a look at the DPC board a week or two ago... they have a beautiful FAQ... and I remember it included, as one of the steps, the configuration edit to put RC5 as the first priority project, with others set to 0. Perhaps we should take a tip from our Dutchy friends.

 

[ViRGE]

I'm with BK here, it's a tiny point to be fighting about. Dnet isn't mandating that you do this, it's just how the clients are set up. In all honesty, Dnet probably wants everyone to do OGR since it has more scientific merit than RC5, but they didn't set OGR above RC5 to make you do it, but it was probably just as much of an oversite as it was on my part. Just calm down, reset your clients, and start cracking RC5 again, all will work out in the end.

 

[Jator]

Russ and Others,

Please don't take this the wrong way, but DNet preconfigures the client. They give you the option of changing the configuration when you install it. I learned the hard way to make sure I had the client configured the way I wanted it back during the CSC days.

Granted, I would have liked more time from DNet to be ready for this, but remember too that they are a bunch of volunteers doing something worthwhile and fun. We all make mistakes, and I think most of us agree a little more time would have been appreciated.

Jay

 

[Orange Kid]

ob
Myself and wellcky take that <redheaded stepchild> thing personally. j.k.
Haven't you seen the picts from Iowa?
I have to agree with you as to Seti being the three legged dog in the TA races.
As to OGR---other teams will have the same unwanted switch over's as us. Just reset your clients and get it on!!!!!!!!!

 

[Russ]

ViRGE,

It is not a tiny point. TA Cube is going to lose a monstrous amount of RC5 blocks over the next few days. Until Two gets back, both his labs are cracking for a project that he, and his people, did not sign up for.

Russ, NCNE

 

[office boy]

HEHEH, sorry Orange Kid...

 

[Tripleshot]

1ST I am not cowtowing to Virge because he is Elite member status.I used him as an examle of one of the rc5 team members who will now switch to org,thereby decreasing the effectiveness of the effort I and others Joined for and that was the RC5 effort to be #1. We all worked hard to do it.I mean hard only that I built extra machines to add to my herd and then built a network to add to the effort.(It has been fun for this old cogger who is always putting his foot in his mouth.)
I moniter all these machines daily to see that they are up and running well.I want to finish what I started,not switch at the whim of an outsider who took control seriptiously of my herd.

Is this an attempt to thwart the great work and rapid gains we have made at capturing 1st from /.? Sure makes me wonder.

(uh oh, I'm seeing conspiracies)

 

[BurntKooshie]

Hehe....I'm trying out OGR for a night, but then its back to rc5 for me. I know why you guys are upset....why don't you create a thread, with a well written (not hostile) inquiry into if its possible to get warning. Yes, it sucked that they did this to us this quickly, why not ask nicely for more warning? I'm sure if we ask nicely, they'll respond cordially.

If you guys don't want to write one, I can do it no problem.

 

[dvch]

BurntKooshie-WE should not have to ask-nicely or otherwise-for what is a common courtesy.

 

[BurntKooshie]

guess its best if i left this thread alone....