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Vehemence

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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Tip your delivery drivers, or get your own damned food.

What's great is I don't tip them and still get my pizza delivered. On time and perfectly fine. The pizza delivery guy survives, too. Aint America grand?

And, apparently you get it with a side of ball sweat. That sounds nice. Sure, in America, being a prick is absolutely your right. You'll get your end of the deal at some point.

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: dNor
I don't tip them at all.

apparently you like that salty taste of ball sweat on your pizza.

I love people who think delivery drivers lack memory, never communicate between them, and don't have ball sweat.

:laugh: Ooh, better pay up or get something on my pizza! Honestly, some chump at a pizza store having the presumption of threat over me to pay money to get the pizza I ordered without "ball sweat" is pretty sad. Anyone who lives that way is probably destined to remain a pizza delivery boy for quite a while.

SirStev0 used to deliver pizza, and now he'll be a doctor in a few years. Get over yourself.

And has nothing to do what I just said. WOOSH! I'd say get over yourself and pick up a book.

Of course, SirStev0 could easily be one of the threatening pizza store kids who lives by "give me two dollars or get ball sweat!" Considering this is ATOT, that's probably the case.

May I also say that $2.00 is probably the average I was getting per delivery. The only time this would piss me off was the 10 - 20 minute drives outside of town.

Those dick heads who would round up to the next dollar were the real dicks.



I was never the fuck with your food type of person, but let me tell you that there are plenty of drivers who are. There are plenty of in store people who will also fuck with food of people who are rude or are dicks. Everyone knows who the bad tippers are. Everyone also knows who the good tippers are.

When we were packed during bar rush the first people in were the good tippers. The first out the door were good tippers. The best made pizzas were the good tippers.

If you were a known bad tipper or just a jackass in general, you were last and your pizza looked like shit.



And by the way... You may think those "foreign guys" are below you and obviously have no idea that you are stiffing them but they do know and don't think that you are getting off scott-free.
Most of the foreign guys I know from delivering and from the taxi service (the only other people up as late as we were) were extremely intelligent and hard working. Unfortunately racist assholes like yourself forced them to take menial jobs in order to try to support their family because they aren't good enough in your eyes.

The one guy was a Lawyer in Egypt and was trying to get some money to get an American degree. One of the nicest and smartest men I ever met. Not some pathetic internet elitist troll.

I'm sure there's tons out there that "ball sweat" or deliver slow unless they get paid $X, that's what I've said. And, like I said, anyone who thinks they deserve money so they don't do shit like "ball sweat" to food is probably someone pretty sad.

I'm LAWLing at how I'm a racist for not tipping now. :laugh: Or is it because I said they usually don't tell me to fuck off because they usually don't know English? Sorry dude, but they don't usually know English, no matter where they're from. Don't care if they do or don't, has nothing to do with if I tip them or not - I don't tip any of em. :laugh:. People are so quick to call each other racist nowadays, that's also sad.

I sure wish I was an elitist just for not tipping people who deliver my pizza. Usually you have to drink high end liquor and drive nice cars - I'm gettin in easy! Just for saving $2! :laugh:
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: dNor
I'm gettin in easy! Just for saving $2! :laugh:

No kidding.

When you compare stiffing the pizza delivery driver with coughing up snot and spit into someone's pie, it's pretty easy to determine who's the bigger asshole.
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: dNor
I'm gettin in easy! Just for saving $2! :laugh:

No kidding.

When you compare stiffing the pizza delivery driver with coughing up snot and spit into someone's pie, it's pretty easy to determine who's the bigger asshole.

Honestly. However, I'm a racist, elitist douchebag because I don't pay $2. Gotta love ATOT!
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Tip your delivery drivers, or get your own damned food.

What's great is I don't tip them and still get my pizza delivered. On time and perfectly fine. The pizza delivery guy survives, too. Aint America grand?

And, apparently you get it with a side of ball sweat. That sounds nice. Sure, in America, being a prick is absolutely your right. You'll get your end of the deal at some point.

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: dNor
I don't tip them at all.

apparently you like that salty taste of ball sweat on your pizza.

I love people who think delivery drivers lack memory, never communicate between them, and don't have ball sweat.

:laugh: Ooh, better pay up or get something on my pizza! Honestly, some chump at a pizza store having the presumption of threat over me to pay money to get the pizza I ordered without "ball sweat" is pretty sad. Anyone who lives that way is probably destined to remain a pizza delivery boy for quite a while.

SirStev0 used to deliver pizza, and now he'll be a doctor in a few years. Get over yourself.

And has nothing to do what I just said. WOOSH! I'd say get over yourself and pick up a book.

Of course, SirStev0 could easily be one of the threatening pizza store kids who lives by "give me two dollars or get ball sweat!" Considering this is ATOT, that's probably the case.

May I also say that $2.00 is probably the average I was getting per delivery. The only time this would piss me off was the 10 - 20 minute drives outside of town.

Those dick heads who would round up to the next dollar were the real dicks.



I was never the fuck with your food type of person, but let me tell you that there are plenty of drivers who are. There are plenty of in store people who will also fuck with food of people who are rude or are dicks. Everyone knows who the bad tippers are. Everyone also knows who the good tippers are.

When we were packed during bar rush the first people in were the good tippers. The first out the door were good tippers. The best made pizzas were the good tippers.

If you were a known bad tipper or just a jackass in general, you were last and your pizza looked like shit.



And by the way... You may think those "foreign guys" are below you and obviously have no idea that you are stiffing them but they do know and don't think that you are getting off scott-free.
Most of the foreign guys I know from delivering and from the taxi service (the only other people up as late as we were) were extremely intelligent and hard working. Unfortunately racist assholes like yourself forced them to take menial jobs in order to try to support their family because they aren't good enough in your eyes.

The one guy was a Lawyer in Egypt and was trying to get some money to get an American degree. One of the nicest and smartest men I ever met. Not some pathetic internet elitist troll.

I'm sure there's tons out there that "ball sweat" or deliver slow unless they get paid $X, that's what I've said. And, like I said, anyone who thinks they deserve money so they don't do shit like "ball sweat" to food is probably someone pretty sad.

I'm LAWLing at how I'm a racist for not tipping now. :laugh: Or is it because I said they usually don't tell me to fuck off because they usually don't know English? Sorry dude, but they don't usually know English, no matter where they're from. People are so quick to call each other racist nowadays, that's also sad.

I sure wish I was an elitist just for not tipping people who delivery my pizza. Usually you have to drink high end liquor and drive nice cars - I'm gettin in easy! Just for saving $2! :laugh:

I was commenting on the tone of your comment. It really pisses me off. They don't tell you to fuck off because they are the lowly servant and you are the lazy American they have to bring food to... Believe me, they know English. Unfortunately telling you to fuck off endangers their job.


By the way do you tip anywhere? You do realize that the purpose of tipping is securing good service from people. The idea is that you are rewarding them and after expected service is complete.

If you are waiting 2 hours for a pizza; then don't tip. If the pisson is bringing your food hot and timely, throw him a few bucks. It is how the system works.

You are elitist because you think people should just serve you. Because you are taking advantage of the system. Your being elitist because you are being a dick.
 

RedArmy

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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: RedArmy
Honestly, this is the exact reason there can't be a nef-con. Someone would say something opinionated and the whole meet would go up in flames with girl-like screams coming from every which way.

Have to disagree... without the veil of anonymity, most posters on here are uber pussies.

Yeah, I guess that's true. It would provide for some awesome entertainment though, and I might just go if such a thing were to occur.
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: SirStev0

I was commenting on the tone of your comment. It really pisses me off. They don't tell you to fuck off because they are the lowly servant and you are the lazy American they have to bring food to... Believe me, they know English. Unfortunately telling you to fuck off endangers their job.

No, really. You can presume all you want, but they usually don't know English, or not very well, here. It's not a big deal, dude. They don't need to know English well to do their job well, it's irrelevant. The comment was because I was asked if they talk to me or not. You can try and twist it how I'm racist and elitist but it's not going to get you very far.

Originally posted by: SirStev0

By the way do you tip anywhere? You do realize that the purpose of tipping is securing good service from people. The idea is that you are rewarding them and after expected service is complete.

Sure, sometimes. Sometimes I don't. Doesn't matter much to me and they all go on with their lives as well.

Originally posted by: SirStev0

If you are waiting 2 hours for a pizza; then don't tip. If the pisson is bringing your food hot and timely, throw him a few bucks. It is how the system works.

Except it isn't, and the world works fine.

Originally posted by: SirStev0

You are elitist because you think people should just serve you. Because you are taking advantage of the system. Your being elitist because you are being a dick.

"The system" charges me a delivery fee so I can be an "elitist American racist douchebag" and have a pizza delivered to me by a "pisson". "The system" doesn't contain me having to give that "pisson" $X for it to work. Otherwise, I'd be having to tip to get pizza. And to think "people should just serve me"? OH THE HORROR! I ordered a pizza and paid extra so a guy brings it to me and I EXPECT TO BE SERVED? :laugh:

If being elite only takes being a "dick" it sure has stooped low these days. Especially if being a "dick" only requires not paying $2 and pointing some things out over the intertubes :laugh:

This is the second time I've posted in a thread like this and I get called the best names every time since I don't machinely cough up $2 to delivery boys. :facepalm; I'm well aware most people do tip, that some people will do terrible things to food otherwise, and that some people get all bent out of shape and throw out names and shit all over because of it. :shrug;
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: RedArmy
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: RedArmy
Honestly, this is the exact reason there can't be a nef-con. Someone would say something opinionated and the whole meet would go up in flames with girl-like screams coming from every which way.

Have to disagree... without the veil of anonymity, most posters on here are uber pussies.

Yeah, I guess that's true. It would provide for some awesome entertainment though, and I might just go if such a thing were to occur.

slap fights ftw.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: SirStev0

I was commenting on the tone of your comment. It really pisses me off. They don't tell you to fuck off because they are the lowly servant and you are the lazy American they have to bring food to... Believe me, they know English. Unfortunately telling you to fuck off endangers their job.

No, really. You can presume all you want, but they usually don't know English, or not very well, here. It's not a big deal, dude. They don't need to know English well to do their job well, it's irrelevant. The comment was because I was asked if they talk to me or not. You can try and twist it how I'm racist and elitist but it's not going to get you very far.

Originally posted by: SirStev0

By the way do you tip anywhere? You do realize that the purpose of tipping is securing good service from people. The idea is that you are rewarding them and after expected service is complete.

Sure, sometimes. Sometimes I don't. Doesn't matter much to me and they all go on with their lives as well.

Originally posted by: SirStev0

If you are waiting 2 hours for a pizza; then don't tip. If the pisson is bringing your food hot and timely, throw him a few bucks. It is how the system works.

Except it isn't, and the world works fine.

Originally posted by: SirStev0

You are elitist because you think people should just serve you. Because you are taking advantage of the system. Your being elitist because you are being a dick.

"The system" charges me a delivery fee so I can be an "elitist American racist douchebag" and have a pizza delivered to me by a "pisson". "The system" doesn't contain me having to give that "pisson" $X for it to work. Otherwise, I'd be having to tip to get pizza. And to think "people should just serve me"? OH THE HORROR! I ordered a pizza and paid extra so a guy brings it to me and I EXPECT TO BE SERVED? :laugh:

If being elite only takes being a "dick" it sure has stooped low these days. Especially if being a "dick" only requires not paying $2 and pointing some things out over the intertubes :laugh:

This is the second time I've posted in a thread like this and I get called the best names every time since I don't machinely cough up $2 to delivery boys. :facepalm; I'm well aware most people do tip, that some people will do terrible things to food otherwise, and that some people get all bent out of shape and throw out names and shit all over because of it. :shrug;

Grand. In the long run, I'm just going to brush you off as another cheap asshole like I do with all the other non-tippers. Grats.
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: SirStev0

I was commenting on the tone of your comment. It really pisses me off. They don't tell you to fuck off because they are the lowly servant and you are the lazy American they have to bring food to... Believe me, they know English. Unfortunately telling you to fuck off endangers their job.

No, really. You can presume all you want, but they usually don't know English, or not very well, here. It's not a big deal, dude. They don't need to know English well to do their job well, it's irrelevant. The comment was because I was asked if they talk to me or not. You can try and twist it how I'm racist and elitist but it's not going to get you very far.

Originally posted by: SirStev0

By the way do you tip anywhere? You do realize that the purpose of tipping is securing good service from people. The idea is that you are rewarding them and after expected service is complete.

Sure, sometimes. Sometimes I don't. Doesn't matter much to me and they all go on with their lives as well.

Originally posted by: SirStev0

If you are waiting 2 hours for a pizza; then don't tip. If the pisson is bringing your food hot and timely, throw him a few bucks. It is how the system works.

Except it isn't, and the world works fine.

Originally posted by: SirStev0

You are elitist because you think people should just serve you. Because you are taking advantage of the system. Your being elitist because you are being a dick.

"The system" charges me a delivery fee so I can be an "elitist American racist douchebag" and have a pizza delivered to me by a "pisson". "The system" doesn't contain me having to give that "pisson" $X for it to work. Otherwise, I'd be having to tip to get pizza. And to think "people should just serve me"? OH THE HORROR! I ordered a pizza and paid extra so a guy brings it to me and I EXPECT TO BE SERVED? :laugh:

If being elite only takes being a "dick" it sure has stooped low these days. Especially if being a "dick" only requires not paying $2 and pointing some things out over the intertubes :laugh:

This is the second time I've posted in a thread like this and I get called the best names every time since I don't machinely cough up $2 to delivery boys. :facepalm; I'm well aware most people do tip, that some people will do terrible things to food otherwise, and that some people get all bent out of shape and throw out names and shit all over because of it. :shrug;

Grand. In the long run, I'm just going to brush you off as another cheap asshole like I do with all the other non-tippers. Grats.

:thumbsup:
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Grand. In the long run, I'm just going to brush you off as another cheap asshole like I do with all the other non-tippers. Grats.

Well he did say that he does tip.

However, if part of your job is customer service, which it is as a delivery driver, the quality of the product and delivery in a timely manner (manor? manner? whatever) should never ever be based on how much the customer may or may not (or has in the past) tip. Ever.

The customer's paying a premium for your product. I don't understand why someone would shoot themselves in the foot by providing a sub-standard product at the risk of losing a customer over something as trivial and optional as a tip.
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Grand. In the long run, I'm just going to brush you off as another cheap asshole like I do with all the other non-tippers. Grats.

Well he did say that he does tip.

From what I've gathered with these threads it's the fact that I don't tip every single time to any person most people deem tip-worthy that's the problem. I routinely tip if it's raining, if the waitress obviously really busted her ass, etc etc blah blah, but it's not every time without cause or reason and thus I am the devil and all sorts of other things.

Really, I doubt they actually care so much and would rather just make a fluff of feathers about it on ATOT. ;)

 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Grand. In the long run, I'm just going to brush you off as another cheap asshole like I do with all the other non-tippers. Grats.

Well he did say that he does tip.

However, if part of your job is customer service, which it is as a delivery driver, the quality of the product and delivery in a timely manner (manor? manner? whatever) should never ever be based on how much the customer may or may not (or has in the past) tip. Ever.

The customer's paying a premium for your product. I don't understand why someone would shoot themselves in the foot by providing a sub-standard product at the risk of losing a customer over something as trivial and optional as a tip.

I am pretty sure he said the exact opposite. Anyway...

And I am not sure what type of place you worked at, but at all three places I have worked, we did triage.

We were a local place with up to 3 drivers going almost nonstop all night. During Bar Rush I was leaving with 4-8 orders and we usually took orders in regions.

I never went out of my way to screw an asshole, but I certainly didn't go out of my way to get their delivery there first.

I took the deliveries in the order of my choosing... which usually meant: Good tipper (if known), easiest, best to start a chain, closest, way the makes the most sense, etc.

The motivation was to make the most by delivering in the way that would maximize tips and allowed me to take the most deliveries.

It is the incentive of being a driver. I had regulars. I had people who'd tip me 6-10 dollars an order. They got the best service.



To say that you take advantage of the fact that guy is foreign is dickheadish and verging on racist. They don't get a tip because there is nothing they can do.
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: dNor
I'm sure there's tons out there that "ball sweat" or deliver slow unless they get paid $X, that's what I've said. And, like I said, anyone who thinks they deserve money so they don't do shit like "ball sweat" to food is probably someone pretty sad.

I'm LAWLing at how I'm a racist for not tipping now. :laugh: Or is it because I said they usually don't tell me to fuck off because they usually don't know English? Sorry dude, but they don't usually know English, no matter where they're from. Don't care if they do or don't, has nothing to do with if I tip them or not - I don't tip any of em. :laugh:. People are so quick to call each other racist nowadays, that's also sad.

I sure wish I was an elitist just for not tipping people who deliver my pizza. Usually you have to drink high end liquor and drive nice cars - I'm gettin in easy! Just for saving $2! :laugh:

I wouldn't say elitist or racist, but I would say that you're an opportunist because you see the chance to take advantage of someone, you take it and seem to be proud of it.

What is strange is that you think their response by slowing down your delivery is sad, but don't see the connection to your behavior OR it is possible that you like the taste of cold last delivered ball sweat, because you are "sure" they do it and yet continue not tipping.


 

Vehemence

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To say that you take advantage of the fact that guy is foreign is dickheadish and verging on racist. They don't get a tip because there is nothing they can do.

Didn't say that. You're trying to work yourself up because I don't tip and you have had a job that most people tip to. My quote was, in reply to a question if someone says something to my face about not tipping, that usually no because they usually don't know English. When they do talk perfect English to me, they don't say anything either (also mentioned in the post). Not racist, pointing out how they don't reply to me. Get over it.

Originally posted by: Squisher

I wouldn't say elitist or racist, but I would say that you're an opportunist because you see the chance to take advantage of someone, you take it and seem to be proud of it.

Yeah, sure. Call me whatever else is on the list because I don't give people $X. There's plenty more to call me.


Originally posted by: Squisher

What is strange is that you think their response by slowing down your delivery is sad, but don't see the connection to your behavior OR it is possible that you like the taste of cold last delivered ball sweat, because you are "sure" they do it and yet continue not tipping.


Er, no. My pizza isn't cold or late or tastes disgusting due to someone being upset I didn't give them a few dollars. If that was the case I certainly wouldn't be ordering from that place again, now would I? Sure they can be "ball sweating" but if these people are so quick to dip their sacks on food then they probably do it over a lot more than $2 and we all have more to worry about. :laugh:


Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: SirStev0

By the way do you tip anywhere?

Sure, sometimes.

Originally posted by: dNor
I don't tip them at all.


He should pick one and stick with it then...

Not only is the first quote in regards to "anywhere", but the second quote was even expanded upon a couple posts down. I could edit it so all the info is in one nice lil post for you.



 

ICRS

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I have question, does anyone here tip at McDonalds, and such. Aren't these people servicing you by making your food?
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: ICRS
I have question, does anyone here tip at McDonalds, and such. Aren't these people servicing you by making your food?

If McDonald's delivered they probably would or if it was a restaurant with waiters. That seems to be a part of the qualifications to be tip worthy to most.
 

ICRS

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Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: ICRS
I have question, does anyone here tip at McDonalds, and such. Aren't these people servicing you by making your food?

If McDonald's delivered they probably would or if it was a restaurant with waiters. That seems to be a part of the qualifications to be tip worthy to most.

Why?, These people making your food are provind you a service by preparing your food. I always tip when I see a tip jar at a fast food place, or if I see a line for tip on my receipt. I am being provided a service therefore I will tip.
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: ICRS
I have question, does anyone here tip at McDonalds, and such. Aren't these people servicing you by making your food?

If McDonald's delivered they probably would or if it was a restaurant with waiters. That seems to be a part of the qualifications to be tip worthy to most.

Why?, These people making your food are provind you a service by preparing your food. I always tip when I see a tip jar at a fast food place, or if I see a line for tip on my receipt. I am being provided a service therefore I will tip.

Dunno, can't and won't speak for them. Never seen a Mickey D's with a tip jar, although I've seen other fast food places with them. Do the McD's around you?
 

ICRS

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Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: ICRS
I have question, does anyone here tip at McDonalds, and such. Aren't these people servicing you by making your food?

If McDonald's delivered they probably would or if it was a restaurant with waiters. That seems to be a part of the qualifications to be tip worthy to most.

Why?, These people making your food are provind you a service by preparing your food. I always tip when I see a tip jar at a fast food place, or if I see a line for tip on my receipt. I am being provided a service therefore I will tip.

Dunno, can't and won't speak for them. Never seen a Mickey D's with a tip jar, although I've seen other fast food places with them. Do the McD's around you?

No none of the McDonalds do, shame too since I would always tip if they did. I have seen subways with tip jars, and most local fast food palces have them.

If you are only tipping because they make bellow minimum wage and you live in Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, or California then you are mistaken because no one makes bellow minimum wage before tips in these states. If you tip because you are greatful for their service then :).