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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
You're pretty self centered and egotistical, but I think we all knew that about you already.

You're not doing anyone any favors by doing this. First off grown men, yes, both of you, have no bussiness being on Myspace. Stop it now.

Secondly, just because YOU promise something is justification enough to publicly embarrass someone?!?! WTF man?

You might think you know this kid, but you don't. There's no way you can know why he does what he does. You just have a working theory, and you act (irrationally I might add) based off that assumption.

As Broyophyte said, if he is manic depressive, or has any other type mental disease, something like this could only serve to push him over the edge.

Think it through for a second, how good would you feel about yourself if you woke up tomorrow and found out he off'ed himself because this was some sort of final straw. Or better yet, given how depressed people these days like to take a few souls with them, what if you woke up to find a .45 in your face and became nothing more than a headline in a murder/suicide article in your hometown paper???

Either leave him alone or offer to help find him a job. Constructive, not destructive man.


I grew up with him since I was 4. I've known and been great friends with him for almost 25 years. If anybody knows this guy, I do. The reason he is the way he is, is because his parents spoiled him and never pushed him to do anything with his life. When his mom told me about some of the things he did, I told him if he didn't get off his ass and get a job, so that he could buy his own car, and spend his own money, I call him out for being a spoiled little brat and embarass him. So I did.


You act as if you're his Dad.....you're not.

As for the "Known him since 4".....I've got two really good friends I've known for 20 years now. There are many things they don't know about me although either of them would tell you "they know me better than anyone else".....as I'm sure there's shit about them I'll never know.

That's life....NO ONE knows everything about a person. There is no exception to that rule.
 
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
If you know for a fact that he's being abusive to his parents and threatening to burn their house down, contact the police. Otherwise, mind your own business. I'm pretty sure that by now, he knows your opinion on how he should be living his life. It's entirely within his rights to ignore your advice and do things that you don't like. You bitch about his parents 'enabling' him, but you don't seem to see that you're doing the same thing by trying to 'fix' him and by hanging out with him and giving him the opportunity to bitch to you and beg from you. Just walk away from him for awhile and see how he does without you. If he ends up in jail or on the street, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, it's his.

I understand. Calling him out was kinda my last straw. I know he's going to be upset. I don't think he is unstable to a point that he will kill himself, I just think he's lazy as fvck and thinks he can just keep milking on his parents.

As his life long friend, I'd (being selfish I guess) would like to see the day when he gets married, has kids, etc.. and I just don't see it happening anytime soon.


That's bullshit. I think you do this for the drama. As someone here pointed out earlier in this thread you like to use the word "I" a lot. You should think about that the next time you say you're "doing something for someone else"

OMG you used I. please. I used I alot because I started this thread because I wanted to know If what I did was too harsh. I've since deleted the bulletin. If wanted this thread to be about him and his problems, I wouldnt have used I so much. lolz

If you fail to see your own narcissism, then far be it from me to continue to point it out to you
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
You're pretty self centered and egotistical, but I think we all knew that about you already.

You're not doing anyone any favors by doing this. First off grown men, yes, both of you, have no bussiness being on Myspace. Stop it now.

Secondly, just because YOU promise something is justification enough to publicly embarrass someone?!?! WTF man?

You might think you know this kid, but you don't. There's no way you can know why he does what he does. You just have a working theory, and you act (irrationally I might add) based off that assumption.

As Broyophyte said, if he is manic depressive, or has any other type mental disease, something like this could only serve to push him over the edge.

Think it through for a second, how good would you feel about yourself if you woke up tomorrow and found out he off'ed himself because this was some sort of final straw. Or better yet, given how depressed people these days like to take a few souls with them, what if you woke up to find a .45 in your face and became nothing more than a headline in a murder/suicide article in your hometown paper???

Either leave him alone or offer to help find him a job. Constructive, not destructive man.


I grew up with him since I was 4. I've known and been great friends with him for almost 25 years. If anybody knows this guy, I do. The reason he is the way he is, is because his parents spoiled him and never pushed him to do anything with his life. When his mom told me about some of the things he did, I told him if he didn't get off his ass and get a job, so that he could buy his own car, and spend his own money, I call him out for being a spoiled little brat and embarass him. So I did.


You act as if you're his Dad.....you're not.

As for the "Known him since 4".....I've got two really good friends I've known for 20 years now. There are many things they don't know about me although either of them would tell you "they know me better than anyone else".....as I'm sure there's shit about them I'll never know.

That's life....NO ONE knows everything about a person. There is no exception to that rule.

I'm not claiming to know everything about him, but I do have insight into his behavior. He's a spoiled brat and seeing how he grew up, I understand that.

 

Bryophyte

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
OMG you used I. please. I used I alot because I started this thread because I wanted to know If what I did was too harsh. I've since deleted the bulletin. If wanted this thread to be about him and his problems, I wouldnt have used I so much. lolz

And you just said it nine times in a VERY short paragraph. ;)
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
If you know for a fact that he's being abusive to his parents and threatening to burn their house down, contact the police. Otherwise, mind your own business. I'm pretty sure that by now, he knows your opinion on how he should be living his life. It's entirely within his rights to ignore your advice and do things that you don't like. You bitch about his parents 'enabling' him, but you don't seem to see that you're doing the same thing by trying to 'fix' him and by hanging out with him and giving him the opportunity to bitch to you and beg from you. Just walk away from him for awhile and see how he does without you. If he ends up in jail or on the street, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, it's his.

I understand. Calling him out was kinda my last straw. I know he's going to be upset. I don't think he is unstable to a point that he will kill himself, I just think he's lazy as fvck and thinks he can just keep milking on his parents.

As his life long friend, I'd (being selfish I guess) would like to see the day when he gets married, has kids, etc.. and I just don't see it happening anytime soon.


That's bullshit. I think you do this for the drama. As someone here pointed out earlier in this thread you like to use the word "I" a lot. You should think about that the next time you say you're "doing something for someone else"

OMG you used I. please. I used I alot because I started this thread because I wanted to know If what I did was too harsh. I've since deleted the bulletin. If wanted this thread to be about him and his problems, I wouldnt have used I so much. lolz

If you fail to see your own narcissism, then far be it from me to continue to point it out to you


I understand narcissism but I fail to see how calling someone out for being a spoiled brat who threatened his parents (whom are like parents to me) narcissistic. Please explain. (seriously)
 
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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
OMG you used I. please. I used I alot because I started this thread because I wanted to know If what I did was too harsh. I've since deleted the bulletin. If wanted this thread to be about him and his problems, I wouldnt have used I so much. lolz

And you just said it nine times in a VERY short paragraph. ;)

In his defense I think he was trying to be funny.....but I'm sure you got that.

I'll bet you laughed like I did :roll:

 

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This young man sounds like he's mentally ill,he also sounds
like he's got involved,supportive parents who could probably
handle any interventions needed with your assistance.

 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
OMG you used I. please. I used I alot because I started this thread because I wanted to know If what I did was too harsh. I've since deleted the bulletin. If wanted this thread to be about him and his problems, I wouldnt have used I so much. lolz

And you just said it nine times in a VERY short paragraph. ;)

myself did that intentionally and sarcastically.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
That sounds like an excellent way to push someone who is probably mentally ill completely off his rocker so he'll go put a gun in his mouth. Bravo. :(

And you have a problem with this why? If they are stupid enough to kill themselves, then we are all better off. And that goes for mentally ill people too.
 
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK



I understand narcissism but I fail to see how calling someone out for being a spoiled brat who threatened his parents (whom are like parents to me) narcissistic. Please explain. (seriously)

I'm going to play Army of Two.....someone else will have to answer this one for you.

 

IGBT

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
That sounds like an excellent way to push someone who is probably mentally ill completely off his rocker so he'll go put a gun in his mouth. Bravo. :(

I'd like to add that you're completely out of line to get involved in his decision making. He's an adult and will make good or bad decisions and is not answerable to you. If you think he's physically abusing his mother, you may have a good reason to intervene (talk to his father or call the police), but all you're doing now is making things worse.

..thinking the same thing. he's prob sick. a social worker may be in order here.

 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I have a deadbeat friend, told him if he didn't get a job in a month, I'd embarass him.

Mind your own business. What makes you think it is your place to tell him what to do, no matter how long you've known him? You realize that even parents of adult children do not have that right?

You act was useless since no one can really change unless and until they want to.


BTW, can he correctly spell 'embarrass'?

/thread

(and, yes, I have read the whole thread to date.)
 

Bryophyte

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
OMG you used I. please. I used I alot because I started this thread because I wanted to know If what I did was too harsh. I've since deleted the bulletin. If wanted this thread to be about him and his problems, I wouldnt have used I so much. lolz

And you just said it nine times in a VERY short paragraph. ;)

myself did that intentionally and sarcastically.

You missed one in the last sentence. "If I'd.." Could've gone for ten. Hell, you could have said, "I've since deleted the bulletin that I posted in the myspace blog that I created on the computer I bought with money I made from the job I got after college in the town I grew up in, in the apartment I pay for all by myself." and gotten the total up to 18. :)

 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
That sounds like an excellent way to push someone who is probably mentally ill completely off his rocker so he'll go put a gun in his mouth. Bravo. :(

And you have a problem with this why? If they are stupid enough to kill themselves, then we are all better off. And that goes for mentally ill people too.

Sad thing is, I almost feel this way. If he is just going to degrade, get sicker, and off himself, he might as well do it now so his parents can collect on insurance, save their money, and retire on time.

Otherwise, guy could just go get a minimum wage job, and move in with his friend that has a cheap room for rent less than a block away from his parents house..... At that point, he can sit online and play poker and drink as much as he wants.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
OMG you used I. please. I used I alot because I started this thread because I wanted to know If what I did was too harsh. I've since deleted the bulletin. If wanted this thread to be about him and his problems, I wouldnt have used I so much. lolz

And you just said it nine times in a VERY short paragraph. ;)

myself did that intentionally and sarcastically.

You missed one in the last sentence. "If I'd.." Could've gone for ten. Hell, you could have said, "I've since deleted the bulletin that I posted in the myspace blog that I created on the computer I bought with money I made from the job I got after college in the town I grew up in, in the apartment I pay for all by myself." and gotten the total up to 18. :)


me didn't go to college.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I have a deadbeat friend, told him if he didn't get a job in a month, I'd embarass him.

Mind your own business. What makes you think it is your place to tell him what to do, no matter how long you've known him? You realize that even parents of adult children do not have that right?

You act was useless since no one can really change unless and until they want to.


BTW, can he correctly spell 'embarrass'?

/thread

(and, yes, I have read the whole thread to date.)

my seppelling sucks online because i just type and hit enter.
 

MotionMan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I have a deadbeat friend, told him if he didn't get a job in a month, I'd embarass him.

Mind your own business. What makes you think it is your place to tell him what to do, no matter how long you've known him? You realize that even parents of adult children do not have that right?

You act was useless since no one can really change unless and until they want to.


BTW, can he correctly spell 'embarrass'?

/thread

(and, yes, I have read the whole thread to date.)

my seppelling sucks online because i just type and hit enter.

Yeah, we got that you post things online without really thinking about what you are doing.

MotionMan
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I have a deadbeat friend, told him if he didn't get a job in a month, I'd embarass him.

Mind your own business. What makes you think it is your place to tell him what to do, no matter how long you've known him? You realize that even parents of adult children do not have that right?

You act was useless since no one can really change unless and until they want to.


BTW, can he correctly spell 'embarrass'?

/thread

(and, yes, I have read the whole thread to date.)

my seppelling sucks online because i just type and hit enter.

Yeah, we got that you post things online without really thinking about what you are doing.

MotionMan

ok? where did that come from?

 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I'd like to hear why you're interested in seeing this guy breed and raise offspring.

I'm interested in seeing him do well and enjoy life. Hopefully, he includes getting laid and having a family in that.

I'd be just as happy to see him do well in the World Poker Championships. My point was, the guy has been like a brother to me since I can remember, but lately he's just been a spoiled bitch. Maybe I'm just spiteful because I've had to work since I was 15 and earned a living.
 

Bryophyte

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I'd like to hear why you're interested in seeing this guy breed and raise offspring.

I'm interested in seeing him do well and enjoy life. Hopefully, he includes getting laid and having a family in that.

I'd be just as happy to see him do well in the World Poker Championships. My point was, the guy has been like a brother to me since I can remember, but lately he's just been a spoiled bitch. Maybe I'm just spiteful because I've had to work since I was 15 and earned a living.

I'm just wondering how his kids would turn out. How on earth would he know how to parent children properly? Wouldn't the kids be doomed to be fvckups like their old man?
 

BoomerD

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I still don't see why you think it's any of your business what the guy does with his life, nor WTF gives you the right to post that shit on Myspace.

Get it through your head, it's HIS life, not yours. It's HIS business (and his parents) NOT yours.

Help him constructively or say your "see-ya's" and move on with YOUR life.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Maybe I'm just spiteful because I've had to work since I was 15 and earned a living.

Yeah you sound spiteful.

Man way to make someone elses problems all about YOU.

Get a life and stop managing everyone elses.

 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I'd like to hear why you're interested in seeing this guy breed and raise offspring.

I'm interested in seeing him do well and enjoy life. Hopefully, he includes getting laid and having a family in that.

I'd be just as happy to see him do well in the World Poker Championships. My point was, the guy has been like a brother to me since I can remember, but lately he's just been a spoiled bitch. Maybe I'm just spiteful because I've had to work since I was 15 and earned a living.

I'm just wondering how his kids would turn out. How on earth would he know how to parent children properly? Wouldn't the kids be doomed to be fvckups like their old man?

Good point. I guess I'm just hoping that my friend still has a responsible person with drive and ambition on the inside and that a good slap in the face might wake him up.....

I was pretty upset to hear that he was actually getting violent with his mom and making threats. And I guess spiteful too since growing up, he had everything handed to him and I didnt get much, and had to work and pay my own car payment, insurance and other bills while he just got to ride on his parents coattail. I managed to build some kind of work ethic while now he just sits on his ass and expects to keep riding on his parents coattail. It just doesnt make sense to me.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Maybe I'm just spiteful because I've had to work since I was 15 and earned a living.

Yeah you sound spiteful.

Man way to make someone elses problems all about YOU.

Get a life and stop managing everyone elses.


My life is ok... I work alot, and dont have many friends. This guy is one of my close ones, but lately, with how he's been, I've had troubles with him. He's the only guy I'm really worried about. Everyeone else is doing ok and I dont feel like i have to intervene.