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Originally posted by: BooneRebel
I'm talking about in general. But it sounds like you might want to start another thread on the possible benefits of homosexuality on humanity.Originally posted by: Fausto1
Only if they chose not to practice safe sex. STD's don't care either way. Again, take a look at Africa, southeast Asia or Russia.
What's hard to understand is why you consider this to be any kind of valid point. Last I checked, we humans were polluting cities, the environment, and starving to death in many areas because there are just too damn many of us. It's not like Homo sapiens sapiens is teetering on the brink of extinction right now.
"In general" what? In order to support your contention that your dislike of homosexuals is not based in bigotry, you have to tell us why they are bad beyond the fact that you find them personally offensive. You have to explain to us what is inherent in being gay that is harmful to themselves and society as a whole, but you're not doing that. You're describing stupid human behavior (unsafe sex specifically) that is applicable to everyone. Not only that, but if you were to somehow add up the total cost to society of all the people wandering around the globe with STDs today, the majority of it is going come from heterosexuals. You keep casting about trying to rationalize the fact that you just don't like gay people, are offended by their presence and you keep coming up empty so you finally resort to insulting me with your infantile "benefits to humanity" quip.
Sorry bud, but you're not helping your case for non-bigotry at all.
Actually . . . No. Homosexuals have a greater risk of contracting certain STDs (say HIV) but the increased risk is typically a function of practice (no barrier protection) than choice of partner (say a prostitute).
What's the difference between people who choose not to procreate and those who can't (low or slow sperm vs bad eggs/female plumbing)? The distribution of sexual practices has a huge mode at heterosexual and plan a lone tail leading to a second smaller mode at homosexual. There are many people that have experimented with the middle portion of the spectrum. Regardless, the population is unlikely to ever be threatened b/c heteros are NEVER going to stop scrogging. I don't have any personal experience with homosexual relations and I have no interest in trying. You do your part, I'll do my part, and let homosexuals do there's . . . we will all be just fine.
Fausto1, you're not paying attention. As far as continuing the human race is concerned, you can't get any more harmful than 'sterile'. And I didn't fire back a 'quip', but if your only response is that there are too many of us anyway, then perhaps you've raised a valid point. Maybe in the long run homosexuality is good for population control. But it must burn you up that I will have offspring while homosexuals won't.
You may not remember this, but back in the day, logic, reason, and knowledge were used to promote slavery. Like my history professor said, racism isn't ignorance. It's knowledge.
FeathersMcGraw
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*sigh* This is almost as bad as trying to discuss something with Texmaster.
Last try: Your argument about the sterility issue is pointless. As I and BBD pointed out, there are a sh*tload more heteros out there who cannot or choose not to have children than there are homosexuals going at it. The only reason I pointed out that there are too many of us anyway is because you seem to think that homosexuality is like some insidious plague that will bring about that downfall of mankind. Sorry, it's not. The human race ain't going anywhere unless there's a nuclear exchange in the near future. Again, if you cannot come up with real reasons as to why homosexuality is bad, then you are, in fact, a bigot.
I'm really not sure what you're trying to get at with that last bit, BTW. I don't give a rat's ass who does or doesn't have children so long as the ones they do have are loved and provided for. It saddens me that you will doubtless instill your views in the children you have, but that's the way it goes I guess.
And I'll bet it burns you up that gay female couples have kids all the time.
Was that a rhetorical question? I hope so, because the Catholic priesthood obviously has some issues..
No, but it does sadden me. Children should know the love of a father and a mother joined through the sanctity of marriage.Originally posted by: Fausto1And I'll bet it burns you up that gay female couples have kids all the time.
FeathersMcGraw
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Obvious punchlines aside, I didn't say Catholic, I said celibate (I presume there are religious denominations, Christian and otherwise, in which the clergy are required to be chaste). Are all of these people to be held in the same disregard as homosexuals by reason of infertility?
HomeBrewerDude
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somehow i think the comic book discussion is jumped into this thread....
i had that thread killed until Fausto1 revived it. !
j/k Fausto!
i had that thread killed until Fausto1 revived it. !
j/k Fausto!
Originally posted by: yamahaXS
somehow i think the comic book discussion is jumped into this thread....
i had that thread killed until Fausto1 revived it. !
j/k Fausto!
Ahh....very good. You refrained from punishing me after the fact or rubbing my nose in the mess. You were obviously paying attention in the "puppy housebreaking" thread.
They should also be taught to love and respect all of God's creatures and leave the judging to him.Originally posted by: BooneRebel
No, but it does sadden me. Children should know the love of a father and a mother joined through the sanctity of marriage.Originally posted by: Fausto1And I'll bet it burns you up that gay female couples have kids all the time.
OK, I'll respect you if you respect me. But I'm still not going to buy "Slap Leather, The Rawhide Kid"Originally posted by: Fausto1
They should also be taught to love and respect all of God's creatures and leave the judging to him.Originally posted by: BooneRebel
No, but it does sadden me. Children should know the love of a father and a mother joined through the sanctity of marriage.Originally posted by: Fausto1And I'll bet it burns you up that gay female couples have kids all the time.
And I'm sure glad that I don't have to worry about getting *my* hair muffed.
FeathersMcGraw
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The startling thing is the circularity of the arguments in this thread may make it the first demonstrable counterexample to Godwin's Law.
HomeBrewerDude
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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: yamahaXS
somehow i think the comic book discussion is jumped into this thread....
i had that thread killed until Fausto1 revived it. !
j/k Fausto!
Ahh....very good. You refrained from punishing me after the fact or rubbing my nose in the mess. You were obviously paying attention in the "puppy housebreaking" thread.
yes, i took your advice to heart.
Now you need to step outside and go potty.
Hang on....I need to access Mapquest real quick so I can find Boone's yard.Originally posted by: yamahaXS
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: yamahaXS
somehow i think the comic book discussion is jumped into this thread....
i had that thread killed until Fausto1 revived it. !
j/k Fausto!
Ahh....very good. You refrained from punishing me after the fact or rubbing my nose in the mess. You were obviously paying attention in the "puppy housebreaking" thread.
yes, i took your advice to heart.
Now you need to step outside and go potty.
HomeBrewerDude
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I am not saying this to be mean.... but anyone this obsessed (as boonerebel) with any of the following:
1) the morality and implications of any groups sexual preferences
2) the way in which he is perceieved by his peers
3) being right at the expense of others being wrong
needs to seek professional help. I hope you find peace. You won't find it here though.
1) the morality and implications of any groups sexual preferences
2) the way in which he is perceieved by his peers
3) being right at the expense of others being wrong
needs to seek professional help. I hope you find peace. You won't find it here though.
Children should be free from the influence of violence (at home, on the web, and on TV).
Children should be well fed.
Children should be well educated.
Children should know the love of family AND community.
As for marriage, often it is never sanctified . . . just legalized.
Dick and Lynn raised a perfectly well adjusted, carpet-munching daughter. Who cares? Do you think he hates his child? Do you think somebody turned her? Maybe Cheney's got more in the closet than Halliburton stock options?
For the sake of argument I wish Chelsea was a switch hitter. At least the fanatics could have reality match their stereotypes.
I can't argue effectively that gay's are hurting society or are bad in some way. I do think, however, how they are is wrong for the simple reason that human beings are supposted to be physically attracted to the opposite sex so they can make offspring. Whether it's his or her decision or not, they will not continue their blood line, which is our main biological objective.
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