always wondered 1 thing about microsoft

[kalster]

they always hire they best engineers, i have given their interviews and they really test you, atleast for the SDE (software development engineering) positions and some of the brightest people i know have been rejects
still their products , well a lot of em , suxxxx

wonder y

 

[ElFenix]

not enough ergonomics people, not enough security people. and very little is done with regards to making something run fast and lean

 

[Heisenberg]

Bad management can ruin a project even with the best engineers. That problem isn't limited to Microsoft; it's true everywhere.

 

[her209]

Anti-social nerds

 

[Descartes]

No offense, but what a moronic question. Name ONE product by another company that is functionally analogous to any of their products.

Ferrari is highly regarded as one of the more desirable sports cars on the planet, but is their reliability that of a Honda? You can't be the best in everything.

 

[gopunk]

which are the products that suck? products, not former products...

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
not enough ergonomics people, not enough security people. and very little is done with regards to making something run fast and lean

Is this your personal experience when working with Microsoft, because I can confirm the absolute inverse of what you just said. Seriously, do you really think they give little effort into making their products "run fast and lean"?

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: her209
Anti-social nerds

don't know too many people that work there huh?

 

[Argo]

From the complexity standpoint their products are thousands times better than anything else. It's just when the product is so much bigger it also has more bugs. Simple math.

 

[Nocturnal]

I honestly can't complain about MS and their products. I love the Windows platform and I love the Office platform.

 

[rocadelpunk]

microsoft would be out of business if they followed your plan.

if they created the perfect software, w/o bugs or any problems...nobody would ever upgrade.

 

[TommyVercetti]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
microsoft would be out of business if they followed your plan.

if they created the perfect software, w/o bugs or any problems...nobody would ever upgrade.

People don't upgrade to get rid of bugs. My Office 2000 was working perfectly, but I just upgraded to Office XP for kicks. This is at work, not at home, so nothing illegal.

Isn't this the same argument Bill Gates presented and was mocked on Slashdot for ages for it?

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
microsoft would be out of business if they followed your plan.

if they created the perfect software, w/o bugs or any problems...nobody would ever upgrade.

bada bing.

 

[Oscar1613]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
microsoft would be out of business if they followed your plan.

if they created the perfect software, w/o bugs or any problems...nobody would ever upgrade.

bugs and problems are (usually) fixed with free patches... new versions usually have more features and increased functionality

 

[rocadelpunk]

ok ok but you get the idea!

 

[Regs]

Windows XP is running fine for me, with little bugs. Just a shite load of security holes : /

 

[freebee]

Any large company will have its problems if its upper management doesn't have a cohesive vision on how the company should run and the direction it should take. And with large complex products, be it software or otherwise, it takes time to improve and develop.

For example, General Motors...undoubtably has some of the best engineers in the world....and yet most people here think their cars suck.

 

[Vic]

IMO, Microsoft makes excellent products and has amazing (and usually free) customer support. It's their price tags that always make me choke.

 

[Alternex]

"Hey look at me, I bash microsoft so I can be cool..."

 

[kalster]

maybe suxx was a bad word, they do make good products for sure


but i dont know u wud think they have more stability,

specially since microsoft is pushing hard for the server market, well its hard i know to support so many diff hardware configs

 

[khlee]

you're stupid

 

[silent tone]

They make good products but sometimes I seem to expect more when simple problems or inconsistencies pop up. For example, the desktop background dialog has options to tile, center or stretch images for the desktop. Usually people don't want to distort pictures they put on the background, and unless the aspect ratio is 4:3, 16:9 or whatever your screen res is, it will get distorted. Surely the guy that wrote that algorithm spent at least half an hour doing those and it didn't occur to him to stretch until one of the axies was filled and not distort it along the other axis. I know there must be at least 500 people inside Redmond that have had to edit an image to the right res. or aspect ratio, or just not stretch the image. I don't know if it was fixed in XP or server 2k3 but this has been a simple problem for at least 5 years. For a company that spends 5 billion a year in R&D this crap should get squashed quickly.

 

[FoBoT]

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: kalster
maybe suxx was a bad word, they do make good products for sure


but i dont know u wud think they have more stability,

specially since microsoft is pushing hard for the server market, well its hard i know to support so many diff hardware configs

All stable for me. No problems with my Win2kPro machine.

And that tile thing is also annoying. I just think the can't be assed to do it. Anyway I res all my pictures to fit my res exactly anyway. Looks better. The enlarge shows artefacts that are worse then if I resized the image in photoshop.

Koing

 

[Viper0329]

I cut them some slack. It is incredible how much hardware that must be made compatible for their products to ensure stable operation. That's alot of freaking hardware from all kinds of manufacturers.